Would you be interested in Kaepernick?

[The King]

It's very likely that Kaepernick will be obtainable in the offseason.

Do you think he could add to the QB competition? Do you think he could win the job? Do you think he could lead this team to the playoffs?

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[ICRockets]

Yep. I'd grab him in a heartbeat.

[Pinkerton Security]

I have no confidence that we would use him in the right way. He is not a pocket passer at all.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Kaep makes some pretty bad decisions at times.

[Blondie]

YES! YES! YES! YES!

I would SOOOOOOO be interested in him!!

I can get Coastal to look away.. right!?!?!?!?!

I LOVE HIM .. he is some YUMMY eye candy on Sunday football and would be GREAT in a BILLS Jersey ...

[Novacane]

If the price is right. What would it take to get him? He's getting paid way to much for the performance he's given this year.

[OpIv37]

So we are going to pick up another team's reject QB? Sure, why not? After all, it's worked out so well with Orton, Fitz, Holcomb, Bledsoe.....

[Blondie]

If the price is right. What would it take to get him? He's getting paid way to much for the performance he's given this year.

Maybe they can offer him $100 Million Contract .. and MAYBE he takes them ALL the way with Mario to the SUPERBOWL .. it will be the $200 Million dollar purchased superbowl win!!:D

Lets make HISTORY and the crowd goes wild!!!

LOL

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Still think Sam Bradford is the most likely choice after they decided that Orton is not the answer in the off season.

[imbondz]

If the price is right yes… Still would rather have Sam Bradford tho. If he could just stay healthy, he could be great.

But I wouldn't complain about if we got either of them. Especially if we don't get any potentially good QB in the draft.

[WagonCircler]

Let's see.

A Super Bowl team lets you walk, just 12 months removed from the big game.

You'd have to really suck for that to happen.

He's headed for RGIII land. Broken, fundamentally unsound, piss poor attitude.

[Buffalogic]

100% hell no. This guy is Vince Young 2.0.

NO!!

[Ingtar33]

sure, i'd bring him in. i'd keep drafting qbs too, until we had an all pro. you can't have enough QBs when you don't have a great one just keep looking till you do.

that said i wouldn't trade for him.

[GingerP]

If they get rid of him by 4/1 (when his 2015 base becomes guaranteed), they would take a $10M cap hit. Hard to see them doing that, considering they have no other option at QB (Blaine Gabbert?). They aren't getting rid of him. His contract isn't even that hard to carry cap-wise, since it is really pay-as-you-go.

He isn't playing well, but he is their only option right now. He is a zone-read QB, and they have struggled trying to make him more. They need to let him run his college offense, like he did before.

[Joe Fo Sho]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4bmaUZCAAAv6W1.png

This image is making me puke.

[The Jokeman]

100% hell no. This guy is Vince Young 2.0.

NO!!

He's better than Young but he is a bad QB. Personally, I say no too.

[djjimkelly]

no bloody way i remember telling my dad right after he signed his big deal the nfl hasnt seen enough of him yet .

and told him once defensive coordinators have enough film his BS play will be done,

well teams just sit back force him to stay in the pocket and he is junk accuracy and anticipation are still the top qb attributes and kaep dont have it

[Dr. Who]

Still think Sam Bradford is the most likely choice after they decided that Orton is not the answer in the off season.

If I'm taking a chance on any of the qbs that are likely to be available this off-season, it's Bradford.

[djjimkelly]

If I'm taking a chance on any of the qbs that are likely to be available this off-season, it's Bradford.

1000000% hes a player just made of glass a seriously incentive laden contract could work

[ghz in pittsburgh]

If I'm taking a chance on any of the qbs that are likely to be available this off-season, it's Bradford.

Bradford has a salary of almost $13 mil in 2015. I don't think based on what he has done, he's deserving an extension from the Rams. That will be an interesting case. If money is not an issue for the Pergulas, I'd think the Bills may be offering the Rams a low round pick to get a one year trial/transition. I'm OK with Bradford/Orton/Manuel or Bradford/Manuel/Draft Pick next year.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Bradford is awful. Kaep and Griffin have also been awful but at least Griffin is younger.

[Woodman]

no I would not be interested in Kap, why is he available?

who here is qualified to mold him into something useful?

[The King]

It's pretty crazy that Bradford, Griffin and Kap are all obtainable. In a year without a #1 draft pick it could be an intriguing offseason.

[trapezeus]

it's just hard with poor coaching. everyone regresses under marrone/hackett on offense. until that changes, bringing in people and drafting won't make much of a difference. that's my opinion. Protection sucks, running sucks, routing running sucks. what qb aside from the top 5 can come in and win now.

[swiper]

Kaepernik is a stupid idea. As bad as RGIII. This board is replete with idiots.

You SHOULD have wanted Alex Smith.

Or Drew Brees if you go back further.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Kaepernik is a stupid idea. As bad as RGIII. This board is replete with idiots.

You SHOULD have wanted Alex Smith.

We had Alex Smith when his name was Trent Edwards, I don't know why anyone would sign up for that twice.

[Typ0]

Keep the guys we have and pry Jon Gruden away to coach our team. Orton is as good as anyone being mentioned in this thread unfortunately.

[BertSquirtgum]

Nope. He frucking stinks.

[Mace]

YES! YES! YES! YES!

I would SOOOOOOO be interested in him!!

I can get Coastal to look away.. right!?!?!?!?!

I LOVE HIM .. he is some YUMMY eye candy on Sunday football and would be GREAT in a BILLS Jersey ...

Me too and I don't even like guys if I'm not in jail !

I adore the potential of Kaepernick but the time is past for us and him. Fate meant for he and Gailey together, if only Schwartz had been fired sooner and hired by Gailey.

We are not going to get better from him than SF can, though plenty of teams could, and he'd go into the Spiller/Watkins/Manuel/Bryce Brown/Mike Williams bucket of perpetual Buffalo Bills offensively offensive futility under this coaching staff, unfortunately.

Ah but what could have been.....

[YardRat]

Aaaaaand another 'next best QB EVER!!!' bites the dust.

Gotta have in the draft one season, HOF written all over them the next, and somebody else's garbage by year three or four. Rinse, repeat.

Anybody want to guess who falls next? Wilson? Bridgewater? Carr?

[Meathead]

I LOVE HIM .. he is some YUMMY eye candy on Sunday football

further proof that even the butt ass fugly brothers can get white women

the guy looks like a downs syndrome rhesus monkey for crying out loud

[BertSquirtgum]

Tucan Sam Kaepernick.

[The Doc]

I'd surrender this years 2nd and next years 1st.

[BertSquirtgum]

I'd surrender this years 2nd and next years 1st.

You would be an idiot to do that.

[pmoon6]

YES! YES! YES! YES!

I would SOOOOOOO be interested in him!!

I can get Coastal to look away.. right!?!?!?!?!

I LOVE HIM .. he is some YUMMY eye candy on Sunday football and would be GREAT in a BILLS Jersey ...Interviewer: Who is your favorite player?

Typical Female: I LOVE Dan Marino

Interviewer: Oh, good choice, he's one of the best QB's to ever play. Do you know he is breaking most passing records?

Typical Female: Had no idea, I just like to look at his fine, tight ass.

Just kidding, Sweetpea.

Kaepernick would not be a good fit in Buffalo. Number one, he probably wouldn't like playing here, not enough exposure to pimp his "brand".

Number two, he is not a good QB, in my opinion. The 49ers won because of a stellar defense and very good running game, not because of him.

Three, the money and players or picks it would take to get him would be too much to give for another Randall Cunningham.

[swiper]

We had Alex Smith when his name was Trent Edwards, I don't know why anyone would sign up for that twice.

Don't be disingenuous with someone who knows better. And Trent Edwards was playing at a fair level, I will remind you, prior to taking that hit in the Arizona game. Almost like a poor-man's Kyle Orton.

[swiper]

Aaaaaand another 'next best QB EVER!!!' bites the dust.

Gotta have in the draft one season, HOF written all over them the next, and somebody else's garbage by year three or four. Rinse, repeat.

Anybody want to guess who falls next? Wilson? Bridgewater? Carr?

Good post. Spot on. My bet is Wilson. But as Fran Tarkenton says - the jury's still out.

Bridgewater has looked better than many expected. And Carr appears he will be, at the very least, a more productive pro than his big brother was.... who also should be on your list.

To me - Kaepernick's early success can be attributed that of most - defensive coordinators didn't have book on him. They appear to have caught up to him. The great QB's overcome that point of their careers.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Interviewer: Who is your favorite player?

Typical Female: I LOVE Dan Marino

Interviewer: Oh, good choice, he's one of the best QB's to ever play. Do you know he is breaking most passing records?

Typical Female: Had no idea, I just like to look at his fine, tight ass.

Just kidding, Sweetpea.

Kaepernick would not be a good fit in Buffalo. Number one, he probably wouldn't like playing here, not enough exposure to pimp his "brand".

Number two, he is not a good QB, in my opinion. The 49ers won because of a stellar defense and very good running game, not because of him.

Three, the money and players or picks it would take to get him would be too much to give for another Randall Cunningham.


i agree with most of this post except comparing him to Randall Cunningham. Cunningham was FAR superior IMO

[feldspar]

Here's what some 49ers fans are doing over there in San Francisco:

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24875119/watch-49ers-fans-are-setting-their-colin-kaepernick-jerseys-on-fire

[djjimkelly]

Bradford is awful. Kaep and Griffin have also been awful but at least Griffin is younger.

bradford has actually played well when healthy hes just never healthy

[feldspar]

bradford has actually played well when healthy hes just never healthy

I think he missed like half the games due to injury since he's been in the league. Getting him would be interesting.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Number two, he is not a good QB, in my opinion. The 49ers won because of a stellar defense and very good running game, not because of him.

Sometimes they did, sometimes he carried them. He damn near single-handedly beat the Packers at Lambeau in the playoffs.


Don't be disingenuous with someone who knows better. And Trent Edwards was playing at a fair level, I will remind you, prior to taking that hit in the Arizona game. Almost like a poor-man's Kyle Orton.

Alex Smith was complete garbage until Harbaugh took over that team, and now he is basically the ultimate game manager. Now, I can be OK with that when you have a hall of fame caliber running back like Charles. But if the rest of the team falters in any way, KC has no ability to play from behind. Look at their 4th quarter in the Arizona game. And mind you, this guy has been coached by Andy Reid and Jim Harbaugh, both of whom are twice the coach Marrone/Hackett are.

As for Edwards, yes it sucks that he got concussed, but he was on the roster another two seasons and never even returned to the marginal competence he had in that first month. I can't really blame that on an injury, he just played above himself for a few weeks as many QBs can do, and then fell back to earth.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Don't be disingenuous with someone who knows better. And Trent Edwards was playing at a fair level, I will remind you, prior to taking that hit in the Arizona game. Almost like a poor-man's Kyle Orton.

If I'm remembering correctly, Trent was 4-1 until that game (or 4-0?). The 4 wins came against teams that all had top 5 picks the next year (Jags, Raiders, Rams, and ?). He played at a 'fair' level against the worst of the league. I think that concussion was just an excuse, he always sucked.

[Meathead]

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NOW i can see what makes chickie hot for him

[swiper]

Alex Smith was complete garbage until Harbaugh took over that team



This is not true. He had started coming around in 2009 & 2010 while Mike Singletary was the head coach. It's what most fans fail at when understanding Smith and Harbaugh. So many give Harbaugh the credit for Smith coming around and that's patently false. Look at his stats. He awoke later than some. Like Aaron Rodgers or Steve Young. But he was clearly started coming into his own BEFORE Harbaugh arrived.

It's a failure to give Harbaugh the credit for Smith. Harbaugh gets FAR too much credit for being a "good" coach. He isn't. He's nothing more than an idiot. Smith should be given the credit for his own perseverance. He carried it over to KC, while Harbaugh has ruined the much heralded Colin Kaepernick.

[feldspar]

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NOW i can see what makes chickie hot for him

Stop being so nosey.

Horrible joke, I admit.

[swiper]

If I'm remembering correctly, Trent was 4-1 until that game (or 4-0?). The 4 wins came against teams that all had top 5 picks the next year (Jags, Raiders, Rams, and ?). He played at a 'fair' level against the worst of the league. I think that concussion was just an excuse, he always sucked.

It was 2008. He was 4 - 0 vs. Seahawks, Jaguars, Raiders, and Rams. That year those teams did the following:

Seattle: 4-12
St. Louis: 2-14
Jacksonville: 5-11
Oakland: 5-11

Buffalo: 7-9

Edwards won those first 4 then he won the remaining 3 against the rest of the AFC West beating:

San Diego 23 - 14 (Edwards was 5 - 1 after this win)
Kansas City 54 - 31
Denver 30 - 23

[Ginger Vitis]

If I'm remembering correctly, Trent was 4-1 until that game (or 4-0?). The 4 wins came against teams that all had top 5 picks the next year (Jags, Raiders, Rams, and ?). He played at a 'fair' level against the worst of the league. I think that concussion was just an excuse, he always sucked.

Trent beat 4 of the worse 10 teams to start the season.. The next year the Rams picked 2nd.. Seahawks picked 4th.. Raiders 7th..jags 8th

[Joe Fo Sho]

It was 2008. He was 4 - 0 vs. Seahawks, Jaguars, Raiders, and Rams. That year those teams did the following:

Seattle: 4-12
St. Louis: 2-14
Jacksonville: 5-11
Oakland: 5-11

Buffalo: 7-9

Edwards won those first 4 then he won the remaining 3 against the rest of the AFC West beating:

San Diego 23 - 14 (Edwards was 5 - 1 after this win)
Kansas City 54 - 31
Denver 30 - 23

Thank you for filling in my blanks.

2009 NFL Draft spots for those teams:

Rams - 2nd
Chiefs - 3rd
Seahawks - 4th
Raiders - 7th
Jaguars - 8th
Broncos - 12th
Chargers - 16th

The guy only beat up on the bottom tier of the league. I stand by my statement that he's always been bad, even before the concussion.

[Mr. Cynical]

I think they should consider every single FA they can get their hands on for an evaluation. Their QB situation is putrid, plain and simple. They will never, ever get anywhere with EJ or Orton, so they need to get a real QB evaluator (meaning, no one on the current staff has a f***** clue) on board to vet out what is available and get that guy in there.

[BertSquirtgum]

I think they should consider every single FA they can get their hands on for an evaluation. Their QB situation is putrid, plain and simple. They will never, ever get anywhere with EJ or Orton, so they need to get a real QB evaluator (meaning, no one on the current staff has a f***** clue) on board to vet out what is available and get that guy in there.

It's not worth the cost of Kaepernick's contract to bring him here just to evaluate him. That would be really stupid.

[YardRat]

If they don't have them evaluated already, then their pro personnel department isn't doing their job.

[DraftBoy]

I think whether you're talking Jay Cutler, RGIII, or Kaep you have to at least do your due diligence and kick the tires on the idea. Maybe you don't move forward, maybe you do. I don't know that any of them at this point are the long term answer but as a short term gap that could get us into the playoffs and buy us some time till we identify the guy wouldn't be the worst move we've ever made.

[pmoon6]

Sometimes they did, sometimes he carried them. He damn near single-handedly beat the Packers at Lambeau in the playoffs.Cryin' Leaf single handedly put the Chargers on his back for a few games too.

[Mouldsie]

Yes I'd take CK. I think his struggles have been the result of more than just his doing and in the right system can be effective for a team that has an Elite D like ours and needs some productivity from the QB position before it's too late. I used to think he was overrated now I'm starting to believe he is underrated

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Yes I'd take CK. I think his struggles have been the result of more than just his doing and in the right system can be effective for a team that has an Elite D like ours and needs some productivity from the QB position before it's too late. I used to think he was overrated now I'm starting to believe he is underrated

ehh. disagree with you. first off, he is already on a team with an elite D. secondly, what system do you think would work for him? i'm not being sarcastic. i'm asking a serious question. In my mind, from what i've seen of him this year anyway is that he has had some difficulty reading defenses, a la RG3. I don't know. i think i'd pass

[YardRat]

The right system for Kap is just north of where he plays now, but I'm pretty sure he already used up his eligibility and if the rumors are true he'll have to compete with Braxton Miller for the starting job.

[pmoon6]

The funny thing is Kaepernick and his ilk were prematurely hailed as "the future of the NFL", the "New Age" QB. We have seen this played out over the last few seasons and conventional wisdom has prevailed. The running QB has some positives, but the negatives catch up with them. So do NFL defenses in another truism. You can have a gimmick offense that is different and novel that will have early success, but it usually never lasts. Even an offense like Walshs' is no longer relevant unless used in hybrid form. Drop your backers, let them try to dink and dunk and then beat the **** out of them.

Bottom line is that scheme is almost irrelevant, it's the players, their talent and execution that are paramount.

[Blondie]

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NOW i can see what makes chickie hot for him

Lol .. that's so mean of you!!!

What do you have against the ****ing monkeys! !

I bet he has nice meaty paws ... ;-)

[pmoon6]

Lol .. that's so mean of you!!!

What do you have against the ****ing monkeys! !

I bet he has nice meaty paws ... ;-):rofl: Whew, I thought we were going to get the typical female comment.

"Leave him alone because he has a nice ass".