Ortons Better Than This

[The Doc]

It's my opinion that Ortons struggles are a result from two things:

1- the line
2- option routes

He's gotta play better than he has but he's throwing at 4 steps on 5 step drop backs, like on that overthrow to Woods today.

I think with Hackett opening up the playbook more they're doing option routes more. And I think that the receivers and Orton aren't on the same page.

The offense has issues but I we turn back to EJ they'll only be worse.

[BertSquirtgum]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

Nope. Orton sucks.

[Novacane]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

He's struggling because he's not very good. Why do you people ignore 10 YEARS of history? He's an average to below average QB. I don't care who starts the last 2 games but if Orton is our #1 next year we're effed.

[The Jokeman]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

Nope. Orton sucks.

Orton and the rest of the offense has struggled mightily in the redzone. We saw it in the preseason too, maybe an improved O-line and starting TE can fix it.

[elltrain22]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

He does NOT suck, but he is average (as his career record would indicate). The problem with Orton is if he could be above average, with our dominance on defense, we are def a playoff contender this year, and in the future.

[imbondz]

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I'm not ignoring it. We want Orton to play like Brees or Rodgers usually plays. He's a 50-50 QB having an Orton season. He's still a better option than EJ.

Actually Orton is having a better season than his career history in terms of wins / losses.

[The Jokeman]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

He's struggling because he's not very good. Why do you people ignore 10 YEARS of history? He's an average to below average QB. I don't care who starts the last 2 games but if Orton is our #1 next year we're effed.

I agree he's an average QB but you can win with an average QB as long as you have the parts around him. Seattle and Cincy are examples.

[imbondz]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

Wilson is an above ave QB. Guess it depends on your definition of ave tho

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

I initially was easier on Orton and Hackett because the former hadn't been through TC and the latter designed an offense around a completely different skillset. But it's been months since Orton took over, and the offense is looking worse by the game. Orton knuckles under if the rush gets within 5 feet of him.

[Cleve]

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Wilson is an above ave QB. Guess it depends on your definition if ave tho

I definitely agree that Wilson is above average, and superior to Orton.

[swiper]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

Orton is still better than Manuel. But the line gave him ZERO time to look at the field. The o-line is becoming a bigger and bigger problem.

[imbondz]

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I'm having a hard time complaining when the first time in 10 years we can legitimately, every single game compete with the top teams. And not just kinda compete but we could have won that Broncos game. It's just frustrating to be so close to having all the pieces together. And the piece you need is the biggest one.

[djjimkelly]

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I'm not ignoring it. We want Orton to play like Brees or Rodgers usually plays. He's a 50-50 QB having an Orton season. He's still a better option than EJ.

Actually Orton is having a better season than his career history in terms of wins / losses.

who was the qb with jauron in chicago? Another team that had an all world D

[djjimkelly]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

Wilson is an above ave QB. Guess it depends on your definition of ave tho

watch more of their games hes not that good id still take him over orton

[The Jokeman]

Re: Ortons Better Than This

Wilson is an above ave QB. Guess it depends on your definition of ave tho

Wilson is a good QB arguably the 10th best but if you put him on a team with a lesser defense or with as strong a running game I don't think he has the same success.