Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

[BillsImpossible]

I'm over it already. Thinking the Bills were going anywhere in the playoffs was a fun pipe dream while it lasted but it's over now.

Back to reality, Bills fans. It was a much longer ride this year than expected.

Fun season, but obviously time to turn the page.

We all know what the problem is. The Bills offense is horrible. I supported Orton as much as possible, but to put stock in him is like investing in the Russian ruble.

The Bills need to draft a quarterback every year until they get it right.

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6'3 230 lbs, turns 24 years old in May.

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/480746/bryce-petty

Strong arm, strong leader.

Who would you draft?

[tomz]

What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?

[Mr. Cynical]

I don't follow college ball so take this with a grain of salt...his passes in this reel are usually a bit underthrown (receivers are reach back/slowing down slightly) Are you sure he has a big arm? Accuracy is more important by far so I'm not saying I wouldn't want him, but your comment about the strong arm seems a little generous given the footage (again, never watched him live so could be wrong)

[stuckincincy]

I like Tenn's Justin Worley in later rounds, if healthy.

[Novacane]

What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?


He'll be there in round 4

[GingerP]

What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?

He has run a one-read, shotgun/spread offense in college, which has led to big production. He has the size and a good arm, but projects to day 2 of the draft because of questions about running a pro-offense. Basically, he is a project with tools.

[Thurmal]

Can we just have a normal pocket-passer? All the guys that run these spread or read option type offenses eventually end up sucking in the pros.

[cookie G]

What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?

Baylor runs a true balls to the wall offense, unlike the fake balls to the wall offense Hackett was squawking about when he got here.

Most of their TD drives are under 2 minutes. They play as fast as Oregon. They bury teams.

They normally run 4 and 5 wide, emphasis on speed, emphasis on mismatches. But with all of that speed moving people deep, they are one of the better teams in the country running the ball, especially up the middle. They still average around 250 yds. per game rushing.

Art Briles ran this offense with RGIII, with a guy named Nick Florence and with Bryce Petty. All 3 thrived.


I'll take Art Briles before Petty. But I'd let him decide.

[X-Era]

By the 26-27-60 QB rule for drafting QB's:

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/13/3981124/2013-nfl-draft-predicting-quarterback-success

http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bryce_petty_437830.html


<tbody>
PASSING
G
ATT
COMP
PCT
YDS
LONG
PASS EFFIC.
TD
INT
YDS/G


2010
0
0
0
--
0
0
--
0
0
--


2011
5
4
3
0.750
43
25
165.3
0
0
8.6


2012
6
10
7
0.700
97
37
184.5
1
0
16.2


2013
13
403
250
0.620
4200
93
174.3
32
3
323.1


2014
10
337
200
0.593
2893
89
153.0
25
5
289.3


TOTAL
34
754
460
0.610
7233
93
164.9
58
8
212.7

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He's got the 60% completions... Doesn't have 27 starts. Can he score a 26 on the Wonderlic?

Personally I think this is just an attempt at a measurement for success and that there is no sure fire methodology for determining success.

[jpdex12]

I'd take Petty in a heart beat and I'm not a religious Baylor follower...there was something about RGIII that didn't feel right.

[X-Era]

I'd take Petty in a heart beat and I'm not a religious Baylor follower...there was something about RGIII that didn't feel right.
Can probably be had by us. The draft stock sits at 2nd - 5th by what I'm seeing.

[Ingtar33]

What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?

he's a read option guy who never throws a pass to a 2nd WR... it's always first target or run. he doesn't read defenses, he doesn't know how to operate in a pocket, he can't take snaps from center. Lets just throw out every QB who exclusively runs a high school style read-option passing game. they aren't NFL prospects, nor should they be considered nfl prospects

[djjimkelly]

Can we just have a normal pocket-passer? All the guys that run these spread or read option type offenses eventually end up sucking in the pros.

problem is you can only draft what is available and alot of college teams

run either a spread or a read option offense.

just think schools like michigan used to produce an nfl qb every 2 or 3 seasons (backup or starter level) and what have they done since they started running a non pro style offense? they produced a RB for the jags

[Don't Panic]

I like what I've seen when I watch him play, bu there's a reason he's not in the conversation with the top guys. Mechanics seem to need work and he's never going to be a top 10 guy for arm strength, but he seems to have a chance to develop into a quality NFL QB. I agree with the OP... we should be taking a QB every year until we get it right, Ron Wolf style. If he's the best we see with where we're drafting, go for it.

[DraftBoy]

he's a read option guy who never throws a pass to a 2nd WR... it's always first target or run. he doesn't read defenses, he doesn't know how to operate in a pocket, he can't take snaps from center. Lets just throw out every QB who exclusively runs a high school style read-option passing game. they aren't NFL prospects, nor should they be considered nfl prospects

Basically this.

It's hard to ignore his highlight reel but that Baylor offense is so elementary its a big part of why RGIII has struggled to adjust, and why Nick Florence never got a legit shot.

Petty has good physical traits but you're talking about a guy who needs Aaron Rodgers like time on the bench behind a good veteran QB with a great OC in order to learn how to play in the NFL more than likely. He's not the guy you draft to walk into TC and be the immediate starting QB.

[DraftBoy]

To be fair I'm not sure past Mariota and Winston there is a QB most teams would be willing to be their future on. Even then Winston has his own off the field warts and Mariota comes from a collegiate offense where he'll need time to adapt and learn how to read defenses.

The guy the Bills need is Connor Cook from Michigan State and he's already announced he's headed back to East Lansing for his Senior season.

[Don't Panic]

Petty has good physical traits but you're talking about a guy who needs Aaron Rodgers like time on the bench behind a good veteran QB with a great OC in order to learn how to play in the NFL more than likely. He's not the guy you draft to walk into TC and be the immediate starting QB.

Then you draft him no higher than the 3rd round, because anyone higher they're going to call for him to be in there from game one. If there's a guy they like in the third, I'd be cool with EJ and a vet (preferably not Orton but what the hell else is there out there) for all of next year so the kid can learn the NFL style of play.

[DraftBoy]

Then you draft him no higher than the 3rd round, because anyone higher they're going to call for him to be in there from game one. If there's a guy they like in the third, I'd be cool with EJ and a vet (preferably not Orton but what the hell else is there out there) for all of next year so the kid can learn the NFL style of play.

He could be drafted in Round 7 and there will be lots of people calling for him to start on Day 1. Have you seen our QB play this year?

One year isn't going to be enough imo. You're talking about a QB who runs a one read offense in a conference that has some of the slowest defenders of any of the Power 5.

[Mr. Miyagi]

12/20/14: WalterFootball.com knows that multiple NFL teams view Petty as a third-day prospect despite the hype from some draft pundits.

The view of league contacts has been justified by Petty's performance in 2014. His accuracy has been inconsistent, and he's missed a lot of wide-open receivers that any NFL quarterback has to connect with.

Petty has completed 62 percent of his passes for 3,305 yards with 26 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has three rushing touchdowns. Petty needs to show improvement in his pocket passing and accuracy.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015QB.php

I'm done with QBs who has no accuracy.

Orton, EJ, Fitz, Losman

[Bill Cody]

I think Petty...would be a heart breaker for us

[DynaPaul]

NO RUNNING QBS!

[Cali512]

Looks just like Gabbert. No pass shown was difficult

[jpdex12]

This is bogus. How do you now he doesn't throw to the second or third option? Are you him? If you look at these highlights you can see they run pass routes with a lot of one under/one over routes. That's football 101 beating safeties and corners. A good QB reads the defense before the snap an often knows before the snap where he is going with it.

[DraftBoy]

This is bogus. How do you now he doesn't throw to the second or third option? Are you him? If you look at these highlights you can see they run pass routes with a lot of one under/one over routes. That's football 101 beating safeties and corners. A good QB reads the defense before the snap an often knows before the snap where he is going with it.

Because the offense is designed to be a one read offense. There are numerous articles breaking it down.

[Cali512]

I like Mariota but i feel like hes a more athetic and likeable Johnny M. Everyone else looks terrible. Never seen Petty throw a bullet to a covered receiver, everyone has to be wide open

[The Doc]

I don't hate Petty but I don't love him. My issue isn't really his fault but it's that I don't see him making plays after the pocket breaks down. He's got nice pockets and no pressure so it's not really impressive.

[gr8slayer]

Just say no to Petty, been following him since he was in high school.

[gr8slayer]

I like Mariota but i feel like hes a more athetic and likeable Johnny M. Everyone else looks terrible. Never seen Petty throw a bullet to a covered receiver, everyone has to be wide open

As far as being an NFL QB, Mariota has nothing on Winston. Off the field, it's a different story.

[Don't Panic]

Beyond Mariotta and Winston, everyone is a project. Hundley and Petty are at the top of that list. I'd like to see us take Sean Mannion or Brandon Bridge in the late rounds. Both are tall with frames like Kaepernick. Mannion is a better thrower now but has limited mobility and needs good protection. Bridge snaps the ball in a pretty unique way and seems to be a bit mobile, but he's going to need a couple years before he's ready to throw in the lion's den. What do you think of these guys DB?

[DraftBoy]

Beyond Mariotta and Winston, everyone is a project. Hundley and Petty are at the top of that list. I'd like to see us take Sean Mannion or Brandon Bridge in the late rounds. Both are tall with frames like Kaepernick. Mannion is a better thrower now but has limited mobility and needs good protection. Bridge snaps the ball in a pretty unique way and seems to be a bit mobile, but he's going to need a couple years before he's ready to throw in the lion's den. What do you think of these guys DB?

Mannion is a Bledsoe like statue in the pocket, though he doesn't have the same arm. He reads the field pretty well and makes smart decisions with the football. I'm just not sure I see a ton of upside with him.

Bridge is an intriguing prospect as a Day 3 guy. He's huge at 6'5, 235 lbs with an absolute cannon. His issue is that his accuracy is all over the map and he has only limited experience. I'm hoping and praying that he gets a Senior Bowl invite (they usually take somebody from USA is they are on the NFL radar because the school is in Mobile). We shall see though.

[Ingtar33]

This is bogus. How do you now he doesn't throw to the second or third option? Are you him? If you look at these highlights you can see they run pass routes with a lot of one under/one over routes. That's football 101 beating safeties and corners. A good QB reads the defense before the snap an often knows before the snap where he is going with it.

first of all watch his games. occasionally he'll look off his target, but he ALWAYS comes back, he's just trying to move the safety. It's very easy on TV to see where a QB is looking, watch his shoulders and feet. He has to move them when he changes targets. He NEVER moves them.

If you don't want to watch a game (instead of highlights), just know he's in an offense that has 1 actual target to throw to. it's called a 1 read offense because he reads what 1 defender is doing and decides to run, pass, or qb sneak based on it. the pass is to 1 player, and it's meant to take advantage of what that 1 defender is doing. It's how a basic "read option" offense works.