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  • TacklingDummy
    Unreachable Douche
    • Jul 2002
    • 71725

    Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

    Seeds of discontent were sown in Buffalo last May, when the Bills traded up to land wide receiver Sammy Watkins.

    According to sources in the Bills' draft room, former Buffalo head coach Doug Marrone clearly was not happy with the trade.

    Marrone was not in favor of Buffalo surrendering a future first-round pick to the Cleveland Browns in a trade that did not involve a quarterback, sources said.

    According to sources in the Bills' draft room, former Buffalo head coach Doug Marrone clearly was not happy with the draft-day trade for Sammy Watkins.


    I agree with not trading up but I wouldn't have traded up for any QB either.
  • black N yellow
    Registered User
    • Dec 2012
    • 311

    #2
    Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

    Is there anything Marrone DID like? What a miserable ****.

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    • stuckincincy
      Buffalo Bills Fan
      • Sep 2003
      • 15084

      #3
      Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

      Originally posted by TacklingDummy View Post
      Seeds of discontent were sown in Buffalo last May, when the Bills traded up to land wide receiver Sammy Watkins.

      According to sources in the Bills' draft room, former Buffalo head coach Doug Marrone clearly was not happy with the trade.

      Marrone was not in favor of Buffalo surrendering a future first-round pick to the Cleveland Browns in a trade that did not involve a quarterback, sources said.

      According to sources in the Bills' draft room, former Buffalo head coach Doug Marrone clearly was not happy with the draft-day trade for Sammy Watkins.


      I agree with not trading up but I wouldn't have traded up for any QB either.

      Additional article - more critical IMO:

      ..."We've written previously about the high-risk, low-reward of the Watkins trade and the takeaway is this: Basically, Watkins not only has to outperform the rest of very deep, talented wide receiver draft class, but do it at such a level that makes it worth giving up a high-round selection in next year's draft, too.

      Compounding matters: The Bills could have stayed put in the 2014 draft, selected Odell Beckham Jr, and kept their 2015 first-round pick.".


      Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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      • Scumbag College
        Registered User
        • Oct 2002
        • 4949

        #4
        Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

        Originally posted by black N yellow View Post
        Is there anything Marrone DID like? What a miserable ****.
        I thinkn the only thing he liked was the $4 Million clause for not working. Other than that, he's a cretin.
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        • ghz in pittsburgh
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 5861

          #5
          Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

          I don't buy this one too much. It's more dirt onto Whaley in hindsight.

          For the record. I hated that trade and still do. Does not matter what is said in Buffalo; from the outside, this is clearly viewed as a selfish move by Bills executives taking advantage of the vacuum of ownership; they look for themselves instead of long term good of the franchise.

          And that included Marrone. Frankly, with the opt out clause, the one who would and does benefit the most is Marrone. Whaley showed not so sound talent judgement on offense, and Brandon didn't really acted in the best interest of the franchise. I have no doubt a high number of front office people pushing for it -- Watkins is the surest thing in this draft and no one wants to have a fresh 1st round bust on hand when a new owner takes over.

          Watkins still may turn out to be the best in my opinion down the road.

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          • cookie G
            Registered User
            • Mar 2003
            • 7573

            #6
            Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

            That's too bad.

            I don't like to hear Marrone's meddling on the Oline.

            He ruined whatever productivity they had.

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            • X-Era
              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
              • Feb 2005
              • 27670

              #7
              Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

              I ****ing despise Marrone. I'm glad that turbo douche is gone.

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              • The Jokeman
                Registered User
                • Dec 2003
                • 9995

                #8
                Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                Additional article - more critical IMO:

                ..."We've written previously about the high-risk, low-reward of the Watkins trade and the takeaway is this: Basically, Watkins not only has to outperform the rest of very deep, talented wide receiver draft class, but do it at such a level that makes it worth giving up a high-round selection in next year's draft, too.

                Compounding matters: The Bills could have stayed put in the 2014 draft, selected Odell Beckham Jr, and kept their 2015 first-round pick.".


                http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-sammy-watkins
                The problem with highsight articles is typically it's thought that a guy would replicate the numbers he has there would also happen here. If you study Beckham's stats a lot of his stats are because of the sheer amount of opportunities compared to the one's Sammy had in Buffalo. So numbers aren't exactly transferable. I say this as I admit even I've gone so far to say that keeping Lynch and drafting Dez Bryant would have been a better choice then the drafting Spiller and trading Lynch as we did. Yet of course Lynch has been the sole guy in Seattle much like Beckham has been the sole guy with the Giants must of this year so their stats are inflated. Also one could argue that Dez been the sole guy with the Cowboys too. So stats aren't always apples to apples as other factors play into things. I might sound like a Sammy apologist but let's not forget that the reason so many feel the Julius Jones trade helped the Falcons is because the Browns didn't get nearly as much value back in what gave up in what got in Jones. Thus far one could argue that the Bills have gotten much more out of Watkins than what the Browns got out of Gilbert so to me it's a winnable trade thus far. Of course we still have a draft and two more picks by the Browns to truly see who will ultimately "win" the trade.

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                • Joe Fo Sho
                  Making Spirits Bright
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6194

                  #9
                  Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                  This makes me dislike the Watkins trade a little less.

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                  • RedEyE
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 24661

                    #10
                    Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                    So how is this info just now leaking into the press? Bills FO attempt to repair credibility?

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                    • Meathead
                      Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 21349

                      #11
                      Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                      Originally posted by black N yellow View Post
                      Is there anything Marrone DID like? What a miserable ****.
                      i heard he was seen hanging around playgrounds with candy. wearing a turban
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                      • Mr. Pink
                        Peterman Sucks!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 35303

                        #12
                        Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                        Anything Marrone doesn't like means it was a great move.

                        Now we might know why Sammy had games where he was targeted 5 times, coaching minimalized his chances on purpose to prove a point.

                        If Beckham was only targeted 5 times a game, no one around the league would know who he was either and we'd all be sitting here thinking what a horrible draft pick.

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                        • Meathead
                          Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 21349

                          #13
                          Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                          well cant blame him in hindsight on sammy. love me some sammy but id rather have those picks and one of the other wrs right now. i suspect pretty much everybody sees that now

                          poor darker dougie. swung for the fences and missed both times. at least hes still got a dynamite player with sammy. and its almost unfair what buddy did to him forcing the ej pick but that goes with the territory. ejs probably one in five he will ever be starter material so thats a long shot that might come back to him

                          hes done enough that if i were pegs id want him to stay with the club and see if he can craft a recovery from those two mistakes. like maybe listening to the hc more bc idk what else might have factored in but on that one pasty doug was right. those are tough calls which is why gms usually avoid them, but it should be a good lesson that id rather try to leverage here if i could
                          Last edited by Meathead; 01-04-2015, 12:00 PM.
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                          • better days
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 22028

                            #14
                            Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                            Originally posted by RedEyE View Post
                            So how is this info just now leaking into the press? Bills FO attempt to repair credibility?
                            I think it is just the opposite.

                            I think this comes from Marrone's camp as justification for his QUITTING on his team.

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                            • WagonCircler
                              Escaped Convict
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5876

                              #15
                              Re: Marrone didn't like Watkins trade.

                              Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                              I ****ing despise Marrone. I'm glad that turbo douche is gone.
                              I feel the same way about him.

                              But he was right in this instance.

                              It was a horrible, shortsighted trade, and it leaves us fuct at the QB position--which make the trade even worse, because not having a QB makes having good WRs useless.

                              But the worst and most damning part of it is the fact that Becham and others from that draft are just as good as Watkins, but cost less than half of the resources it took to get him.

                              And it has a ripple effect, because no coach or exec wants to come to a team with no QB.

                              That's why Atlanta will get the pick of the litter when it comes to coaches. They have a QB and we don't.

                              The cluster-**** was created by Whaley and he needs to go.
                              Last edited by WagonCircler; 01-04-2015, 12:51 PM.

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