What About John Gruden?

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  • ghz in pittsburgh
    Registered User
    • Aug 2004
    • 5861

    What About John Gruden?

    Now that it is cited that the Pegulas have reached out to Holmgren (declined), Cowher (declined), Shanahan for coaching this team, what Gruden? This is unlike Tampa when he walked in, a strong D, get a WCO, and superbowl came.
  • upstart
    Sir Osis of Liver
    • Sep 2006
    • 4555

    #2
    Re: What About John Gruden?

    Why would any established coach go to WNY ?
    The NFL forgot the main component of any business model, the customer.


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    • EricStratton
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 20893

      #3
      Re: What About John Gruden?

      He just signed a long and very public extension with MNF.

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      • DraftBoy
        Administrator
        • Jul 2002
        • 107452

        #4
        Re: What About John Gruden?

        When did we reach out to Holmgren and were declined? I missed that.
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        • THRILLHO
          This is great, and all I've done is enter my name!
          • Feb 2009
          • 1574

          #5
          Re: What About John Gruden?

          He already re-signed with ESPN.
          True fans want wins, not draft picks.

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          • ghz in pittsburgh
            Registered User
            • Aug 2004
            • 5861

            #6
            Re: What About John Gruden?

            Mortensen said on ESPN. Apparently, Holmgren recommended Shurmur instead. The Bills are now requesting to interview Kyle Shanahan. I would not be surprised his Dad put in a good word.

            Right now it appears the Pegulas shoot high but shot down different names instead. They pick the names up and chase them one after another.

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            • coastal
              Legendary Zoner
              • Mar 2005
              • 15513

              #7
              Re: What About John Gruden?

              Gruden rode McKay's, Dungy's and Kiffen's coat tails to a reputation.

              He's a wise man to stay in the booth where he will never be exposed.

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              • upstart
                Sir Osis of Liver
                • Sep 2006
                • 4555

                #8
                Re: What About John Gruden?

                Originally posted by coastal View Post
                Gruden rode McKay's, Dungy's and Kiffen's coat tails to a reputation.

                He's a wise man to stay in the booth where he will never be exposed.

                You sound like someone else, that hates Gruden.
                The NFL forgot the main component of any business model, the customer.


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                • Mace
                  Haha...yeah you think so ?
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 20315

                  #9
                  Re: What About John Gruden?

                  Besides that he's cozy in the booth, premium names want premium situations. We have a big QB hole now and no first round premium pick to play with for anyone to put their decisive stamp on the organization.

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                  • BillsImpossible
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16206

                    #10
                    Re: What About John Gruden?

                    Originally posted by upstart View Post
                    Why would any established coach go to WNY ?
                    Because they love football and winning more than they need the money.

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                    • ghz in pittsburgh
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 5861

                      #11
                      Re: What About John Gruden?

                      Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                      Because they love football and winning more than they need the money.
                      I think the Pegulas are finding out the reality: money can't buy a coach to Buffalo.

                      The best bet is a young up-comer who has never gotten a chance. The path of Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkey, Doug Marrone is the way to go. Hopefully you hit on one, then show him the money on extensions.

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                      • BertSquirtgum
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • May 2009
                        • 13379

                        #12
                        Re: What About John Gruden?

                        Originally posted by upstart View Post
                        Why would any established coach go to WNY ?
                        Money

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                        • feldspar
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 13620

                          #13
                          Re: What About John Gruden?

                          Originally posted by upstart View Post
                          Why would any established coach go to WNY ?
                          Kiss my dick.

                          Anyway, any coach worth his salt comes into ANY city to WORK, and that's about it. Working is their entire lives while they are on the clock, so it's not like they are going out clubbing or making a short drive to Disney World for the day. Not like they can't travel in their off-time, either. It takes a tremendous amount of focus to be successful in that job. What exactly do you think Bill Belichick does in what little spare time he has in New England, Pats fan? Visit comedy clubs? He'd probably crack his face if he laughed out loud.

                          I'm baffled by people constantly bringing up JON Gruden and Cowher as well...two guys that have been out of the coaching business for years and don't even WANT to come back ANYWHERE. It's laughable, if not downright annoying. Certain people break out the kleenex every time there is a vacancy. Apparently, the only vacancy is in their own heads. It's not all that common for a coach to find success on more than one team, either.

                          Personally, I love Gruden in the booth. I think he just signed a million year deal with ESPN. I love the team-up with Mike Tirico too, who is under-rated. Really like Chris Collinsworth with Al Michaels. They have quality Monday and Sunday Night commentators going on IMO. That's important when you watch games, particularly when your team is not playing. Adds a lot to the experience.

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                          • YardRat
                            Well, lookie here...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 86161

                            #14
                            Re: What About John Gruden?

                            IMO this is about as good as it gets for somebody like Cowher or Gruden to hop back in. The only thing that could be more enticing is a couple of first round picks and a QB-rich draft. But, it isn't happening.
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                            • sukie
                              Seriously?
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 21509

                              #15
                              Re: What About John Gruden?

                              None of those names wants thier shiny reps tarnished having to face the Patriots 2 times each year without a QB... Exception being Shanny... he's in need of some Brasso after his failure at Washington.

                              Give Billick a call. He's got fire and a serious chip on his shoulder after being seemingly discarded by the NFL. No more boring lifeless statue under a headset occupying sideline realestate.

                              No more facial expressions like the fish fry was undercooked and a wet crap is being held in during the 4th quarter. Marrone always looked like a juicy crap was winning the fight.

                              Billick has life and emotion.

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