I must say, I hated the Rex hire at first

[Mr. Miyagi]

I felt that he was a terrible fit with this team. We have an elite defense and needed an offensive guru who can also groom a QB.

But now I've had time to digest it, I'm starting to get excited about the Rex hire. I realized that what we really needed was leadership and an attitude. We needed a guy who could fire up the players and make them play hard for him. Rex has done that everywhere he went. As for the offense, that's what the offensive coordinator is for. If Greg Roman (or Trestman, I'm still holding out hope) comes in and installs a sound offense (instead of Hackett's BS playcalling scared offense), this team will go far. We need a tough nose run first offense, Manuel can do just fine if he doesn't have the pressure of winning it all by himself.

I'm growing to love this hire, foot fetish and all!

[GvilleBills]

Happy to hear it, Miyagi-san

[Forward_Lateral]

I never hated the hiring. I hated Rex when he coached the Jets. But, I think he's a perfect fit for Buffalo. Blue collar, no give up, keep fighting kinda guy. Rex is no the kind of man that would ever quit anything, IMO.

[HAMMER]

I felt that he was a terrible fit with this team. We have an elite defense and needed an offensive guru who can also groom a QB.

But now I've had time to digest it, I'm starting to get excited about the Rex hire. I realized that what we really needed was leadership and an attitude. We needed a guy who could fire up the players and make them play hard for him. Rex has done that everywhere he went. As for the offense, that's what the offensive coordinator is for. If Greg Roman (or Trestman, I'm still holding out hope) comes in and installs a sound offense (instead of Hackett's BS playcalling scared offense), this team will go far. We need a tough nose run first offense, Manuel can do just fine if he doesn't have the pressure of winning it all by himself.

I'm growing to love this hire, foot fetish and all!

WTF? All I saw on this board all year was grousing about how we were trying too hard to run the ball, "banging our head against the wall", etc. "Not using our new weapon Watkins enough, not getting Spiller into space." Now we are on board with a tough run first offense? Sheeple.

We just hired a sub .500 coach that has no O-Line and No QB, sound familiar? He was just fired from the exact same situation in NY, EXACT.

[Mr. Miyagi]

WTF? All I saw on this board all year was grousing about how we were trying too hard to run the ball, "banging our head against the wall", etc. "Not using our new weapon Watkins enough, not getting Spiller into space." Now we are on board with a tough run first offense? Sheeple.

We just hired a sub .500 coach that has no O-Line and No QB, sound familiar? He was just fired from the exact same situation in NY, EXACT.
Sounds like it's time for you to jump off the bandwagon then.

Should we sing you a chorus too? :)

[Skooby]

WTF? All I saw on this board all year was grousing about how we were trying too hard to run the ball, "banging our head against the wall", etc. "Not using our new weapon Watkins enough, not getting Spiller into space." Now we are on board with a tough run first offense? Sheeple.

We just hired a sub .500 coach that has no O-Line and No QB, sound familiar? He was just fired from the exact same situation in NY, EXACT.

Rex was handed little talent on the team & Geno / Vick. The Bills will make arrangements to improve during the off-season, the owners is willing to spend as well.

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Sounds like it's time for you to jump off the bandwagon then.

Should we sing you a chorus too? :)

LOL, bingo !!

[Historian]

One thing is for certain: It will be entertaining.

[imbondz]

It will be entertaining but not in a good way.

[justasportsfan]

One thing is for certain: It will be entertaining.

hope it's not entertaining for BB.

[Mace]

Funny thing is that I'm liking it less and less atm but trying to be open minded.

To me it seems the Bills hired the biggest and best personality, motivator, and DC, not best manager, game manager, personnel guy, HC, innovator. We already had a DC, and that strength to build on.

As of now we're left with the same weaknesses, and we're messing with the one strength.

I'm not even sure it reflects on Ryan that we threw money at him until he agreed to jump back into the same crap he was swimming in last year knowing all of the above himself, along with maybe a guarantee that he'll get the full 5 years to suffer looking for a qb.

It still just doesn't make sense to me, besides that we hired the biggest shiny.

[HAMMER]

This was a PR hire for the Pegulas and Russ Brandon. They were embarrassed by Marrone turning down an extension and Polian saying no. This is their way of showing the rest of the NFL they can land a big fish. The only thing big about Rex Ryan is his wallet and his mouth. I was OK with the Marrone hire because he came highly recommended by other NFL personnel and he hadn't been given the shot. I can not get behind this blow hard that comes with a LOSING record and empty promises.

For those that say I should get off the bandwagon, first of all, go Fu@# yourselves. I have supported this team for 40 years through many more downs than ups and never quit on them, I won't be quitting now. I have never been the doom and gloom guy and as Op can attest I have fought those people for years. I don't have to like the hire, I can express my dissenting opinion knowing I will always be a Bills fan.

Incidentally Miyagi, you have shown over the years that my dog knows more about football than you do.

[Joe Fo Sho]

This was a PR hire for the Pegulas and Russ Brandon. They were embarrassed by Marrone turning down an extension and Polian saying no. This is their way of showing the rest of the NFL they can land a big fish.

You think an owner who's net worth is top 5 in the NFL needs to prove that he can land a big fish? Don't be ridiculous.


I was OK with the Marrone hire because he came highly recommended by other NFL personnel and he hadn't been given the shot. I can not get behind this blow hard that comes with a LOSING record and empty promises.

Cowher gave Gailey his recommendation, too. That made me feel all fuzzy inside for a day or so.


For those that say I should get off the bandwagon, first of all, go Fu@# yourselves. I have supported this team for 40 years through many more downs than ups and never quit on them, I won't be quitting now. I have never been the doom and gloom guy and as Op can attest I have fought those people for years. I don't have to like the hire, I can express my dissenting opinion knowing I will always be a Bills fan.

Express your opinion all you want, that's what this forum is for. You can still be a fan while disagreeing with a hiring decision.

[ublinkwescore]

this hire can be a huge success, or set us back god only knows how long... Rex needs to find an offensive coordinator that can rebuild our running game. And that needs to be done by getting big linemen to push a##holes like Vince Wilfork off the line. Iupati would look good in a Bills uniform, but may require us to bring Roman over for OC. Callahan is another interesting possibility, and my personal favorite, but means we may be less likely to land Iupati.

Defensively, will schwartz even try to co-exist with Ryan? Will they get in each others' ways? Is Ryan dumb enough to tinker with an already successful defense? Or could this become the most epic defense the NFL has ever seen with the pieces already in place + a healthy Kiko Alonso and a few additional wrinkles courtesy of the snack man.

It's evident that if this team is to make the playoffs next year barring some tom bradyesque gem of a find at qb, it will not be on the arm of a qb, but on the legs of an angry offensive line paving the way for our rbs to pick up 5 yards or more a carry. And I am perfectly ok with that - as long as our rbs don't put the ball on the ground like Brown did against the Chiefs.

[better days]

WTF? All I saw on this board all year was grousing about how we were trying too hard to run the ball, "banging our head against the wall", etc. "Not using our new weapon Watkins enough, not getting Spiller into space." Now we are on board with a tough run first offense? Sheeple.

We just hired a sub .500 coach that has no O-Line and No QB, sound familiar? He was just fired from the exact same situation in NY, EXACT.

Well, how many people on this board are STUPID enough to think the Bills will go into 2015 with the same team that finished this season?

And there are good run design plays a & BAD run design plays.

[HAMMER]

Well, how many people on this board are STUPID enough to think the Bills will go into 2015 with the same team that finished this season?

And there are good run design plays a & BAD run design plays.

None of those run plays work w/o the threat of a passing game or an o-line that can ball.

[HAMMER]

Well, how many people on this board are STUPID enough to think the Bills will go into 2015 with the same team that finished this season?

And there are good run design plays a & BAD run design plays.

Your lack of credibility continues to grow every time you call people "idiots" and "stupid".

[better days]

None of those run plays work w/o the threat of a passing game or an o-line that can ball.

A run game does not work if a defense KNOWS the Offense will only throw SHORT passes.

LONG passes are necessary to move the defense back away from the line of scrimmage & give the RB room to run.

And I don't expect to see Pears at OG next season.

[HAMMER]

A run game does not work if a defense KNOWS the Offense will only throw SHORT passes.

LONG passes are necessary to move the defense back away from the line of scrimmage & give the RB room to run.

And I don't expect to see Pears at OG next season.

That is correct, hence my post stating that a passing game is required. Duhhhhrr.

[WagonCircler]

I was mostly OK with the Rex hire. But the more I hear about him on the extensive coverage on WGR, the more I like it.

I would be REALLY excited if we had a QB or a shot at a QB, because without that, we are stuck in the mud.

Chris "Bulldog" Parker wrote a piece on the WGR web site in which he says that he feels that the Rex hire is a clear sign that they have a plan to acquire a QB.

If that's the case, then I'm more optimistic than I have been in many years (I know--not a real high bar).

[better days]

That is correct, hence my post stating that a passing game is required. Duhhhhrr.

OK, but I think the THREAT of the long pass is all that is needed to make the run game work.

A team that KNOWS the offense will NEVER throw long will crowd the line of scrimmage like they did to the Bills all season long.

[HAMMER]

OK, but I think the THREAT of the long pass is all that is needed to make the run game work.

A team that KNOWS the offense will NEVER throw long will crowd the line of scrimmage like they did to the Bills all season long.

It doesn't become a threat until it's done regularly.

[better days]

It doesn't become a threat until it's done regularly.

It just needs to be successful on occasion.

No team is going to take the chance of Goodwin or Watkins scoring a LONG TD even if the QB is not Rodgers.

If the threat of a long pass is there, you can bet you will not see 8 in the box.

[Mahdi]

WTF? All I saw on this board all year was grousing about how we were trying too hard to run the ball, "banging our head against the wall", etc. "Not using our new weapon Watkins enough, not getting Spiller into space." Now we are on board with a tough run first offense? Sheeple.

We just hired a sub .500 coach that has no O-Line and No QB, sound familiar? He was just fired from the exact same situation in NY, EXACT.

Our pass game struggled because we couldn't run the ball though. So having the intent to be good a running the football is important not only for the offense but for our D and for Buffalo weather.

If we can get a solid starter at QB and a run game we can do some damage.

[HAMMER]

Chicken vs Egg, it doesn't matter if you don't have a QB or an O-Line.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Chicken vs Egg, it doesn't matter if you don't have a QB or an O-Line.
Chicken vs Egg is exactly right. There are teams that have legit QB who haven't been any good. We had neither. Since no obvious big time QB is available in the draft this year or FA, we have to start with a coach.

[paladin warrior]

Rex Ryan is okay . Rex Ryan want rematch Pats. Rex Ryan is a enemy with Pats ,He hate Tom B and Pats coach and Pats fans .

[swiper]

Sounds like it's time for you to jump off the bandwagon then.

Should we sing you a chorus too? :)

The stupid bandwagon? Yeah. You ride at the head of the cart.

[BuffaloRedleg]

None of those run plays work w/o the threat of a passing game or an o-line that can ball.

WTF makes you think they won't address the QB position or the O Line?

What planet do you live on?

[BuffaloRedleg]

The stupid bandwagon? Yeah. You ride at the head of the cart.

Wow George Costanza that is some cutting comedy right there.

Well the jerk store called, and they're running out of you.

[feldspar]

Chicken vs Egg is exactly right. There are teams that have legit QB who haven't been any good. We had neither. Since no obvious big time QB is available in the draft this year or FA, we have to start with a coach.

Yeah, really. Seems like most people bad-mouthing the Rex Ryan hire are doing so mainly because the Bills don't have a quarterback, and he just came from a similar situation with the Jets. Do those people understand that the Bills STILL wouldn't have a QB no matter who they brought in as Head Coach? Who SHOULD the Bills have hired, the guy everybody knows can win despite a not-so-great QB? Who would that be? In actuality, Rex is pretty much the only candidate out there that has done it. Took the Jets to back-to-back Championship games with Mark Sanchez at QB, and the first time was when Sanchez was a rookie.

Just don't understand why people would object to the Rex hire based on not having a quarterback. Makes no sense. The Bills won't see too much long-term success until they get one no matter who is coach.

I always thought Rex Ryan was kind of a douchebag, but I'm sure I'll change my mind about that pretty quickly. I'm a whore like that. Funny how things are different when the guy is on YOUR team.

[swiper]

Wow George Costanza that is some cutting comedy right there.

Well the jerk store called, and they're running out of you.

Loser

[BuffaloRedleg]

Loser

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[HHURRICANE]

Winning is about leadership.

I didn't see the Jets throw in the towel at any point this season. BTW I have alot Jets fans than I'm freinds with and they were bummed he came to Buffalo.

This is a good hire. This team will play hard and if we get Rex the talent he needs this will be a great hire.

[jamze132]

Yup, all my Jets fans wanted Idzik gone and to keep Ryan. According to them, Ryan wasn't the problem, it was personnel decisions and finances. Sound similar? lol

[HAMMER]

WTF makes you think they won't address the QB position or the O Line?

What planet do you live on?

I live on Earth, I am an Earthling.

I didn't say they wouldn't, or couldn't address both. But last I checked there aren't any FA QB's on the market worth a spit. As for the O-Line I have hope that the draft choices we made last year will pan out this year and provide the foundation for a solid line moving forward.

Simmer down Red, you're going to pop a vessel.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I always thought Rex Ryan was kind of a douchebag, but I'm sure I'll change my mind about that pretty quickly. I'm a whore like that. Funny how things are different when the guy is on YOUR team.
I never hated Rex. I just laughed at him because he had a big mouth with no filter. Now that he's OUR big mouth I embrace his brashness.

On the other hand, I don't care if Tom Brady became a Buffalo Bill. He'd still be a metrosexual douchebag.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Watch this. I bet we're not done. It wouldn't shock me at all if we went and traded for Cutler.

And I would hate it for the first hour like I did with the Rex hire. Then the Viagra would kick in and I'll have my woody on about it.

[HAMMER]

I never hated Rex. I just laughed at him because he had a big mouth with no filter. Now that he's OUR big mouth I embrace his brashness.

On the other hand, I don't care if Tom Brady became a Buffalo Bill. He'd still be a metrosexual douchebag.

BS, you'd be lined up with the rest of the sheeple saying he is the best ever. You showed that again and again.

[BuffaloRedleg]

I live on Earth, I am an Earthling.

I didn't say they wouldn't, or couldn't address both. But last I checked there aren't any FA QB's on the market worth a spit. As for the O-Line I have hope that the draft choices we made last year will pan out this year and provide the foundation for a solid line moving forward.

Simmer down Red, you're going to pop a vessel.

Then what does your dislike of Rex Ryan have to do with it?

These issues you are stating about the hiring have nothing to do with the hiring.

It's like bad mouthing your mechanic because your burger was cooked too well done.

The fact that he didn't want to take the job initially because of the poor QB/O Line situation tells me that he has his priorities straight.

[HAMMER]

Then what does your dislike of Rex Ryan have to do with it?

These issues you are stating about the hiring have nothing to do with the hiring.

It's like bad mouthing your mechanic because your burger was cooked too well done.

The fact that he didn't want to take the job initially because of the poor QB/O Line situation tells me that he has his priorities straight.

He took the job because he had no other option. The Falcons wouldn't call him back as they had narrowed to Bowles and Quinn, the 9ers didn't want him either.

The fat kid got a date to the prom with the last option, the fat, ugly daughter of the rich industrialist father.

[Joe Fo Sho]

The fat kid got a date to the prom with the last option, the fat, ugly daughter of the rich industrialist father.

I bet they show up with the sweetest ride, though.

[feldspar]

The Falcons wouldn't call him back as they had narrowed to Bowles and Quinn, the 9ers didn't want him either.


That's absolute bull****. You have nothing to base statements like this on.

How do you know who the Falcons had it narrowed down to, for one thing? The owner Arthur Blank's 99-year-old mother was passing away at the time these interviewing processes were taking place. She died on Wednesday. Safe to say that Blank had other things on his mind, and that may have partly explained why the Falcons were dragging their feet. You don't know enough to comment, let alone draw a definitive conclusion.

The 49ers didn't want him either? Tell me how you know this. Because he wasn't hired by them before the Bills did?

Don't let your bias get in the way of logic or need of proof. Yeah, you don't like Ryan, so therefore nobody else wanted him. Nobody else except for the Bills have settled on a coach yet in case you didn't notice.

[BuffaloRedleg]

He took the job because he had no other option. The Falcons wouldn't call him back as they had narrowed to Bowles and Quinn, the 9ers didn't want him either.

The fat kid got a date to the prom with the last option, the fat, ugly daughter of the rich industrialist father.

So you don't like him because the Falcons rejected him?

Oh you mean the team who has arguably the worst ability to select personnel to run their organization in the league?

They have a top 6-7 QB in the modern NFL and they can't hardly sniff the playoffs. Some organization to base your opinions on!

[BuffaloRedleg]

That's absolute bull****. You have nothing to base statements like this on.

How do you know who the Falcons had it narrowed down to, for one thing? The owner Arthur Blank's 99-year-old mother was passing away at the time these interviewing processes were taking place. She died on Wednesday. Safe to say that Blank had other things on his mind, and that may have partly explained why the Falcons were dragging their feet. You don't know enough to comment, let alone draw a definitive conclusion.

The 49ers didn't want him either? Tell me how you know this. Because he wasn't hired by them before the Bills did?

Don't let your bias get in the way of logic or need of proof. Yeah, you don't like Ryan, so therefore nobody else wanted him. Nobody else except for the Bills have settled on a coach yet in case you didn't notice.

The Bills did it so it has to be wrong.

Not saying that logic isn't usually right, but this time it doesn't feel right.

A sea change is hopefully coming where we can stop being stick in the mud babies about everything.

[HAMMER]

So you don't like him because the Falcons rejected him?

Oh you mean the team who has arguably the worst ability to select personnel to run their organization in the league?

They have a top 6-7 QB in the modern NFL and they can't hardly sniff the playoffs. Some organization to base your opinions on!

No, I don't like him because he is a loud mouth that spouts empty promises all the while being a sub .500 coach. What kind of coach guarantees his team is going to the Super Bowl, not once but twice, talk about looking stupid. He has no one to blame but himself for looking like a jerk, nor should he or anyone else pin his losses on anyone but himself. He is a LOSER.

[HAMMER]

That's absolute bull****. You have nothing to base statements like this on.

How do you know who the Falcons had it narrowed down to, for one thing? The owner Arthur Blank's 99-year-old mother was passing away at the time these interviewing processes were taking place. She died on Wednesday. Safe to say that Blank had other things on his mind, and that may have partly explained why the Falcons were dragging their feet. You don't know enough to comment, let alone draw a definitive conclusion.

The 49ers didn't want him either? Tell me how you know this. Because he wasn't hired by them before the Bills did?

Don't let your bias get in the way of logic or need of proof. Yeah, you don't like Ryan, so therefore nobody else wanted him. Nobody else except for the Bills have settled on a coach yet in case you didn't notice.

His agent called them to see where things stood and they never returned his call, that is a pretty good indicator that they decided to go another direction. Same case with the 9ers, no return call.

[feldspar]

His agent called them to see where things stood and they never returned his call, that is a pretty good indicator that they decided to go another direction. Same case with the 9ers, no return call.

Link?

When did the agent call, and how long afterwards did Rex seal the deal with the Bills?

Who are you believing, if you didn't just make it up?

[HAMMER]

I'm not digging around for a link to one of the 30 articles I have read in the last two days, but next coaching search I'll log all of them just in case I have to answer to you.