Marrone getting no play

[Mr. Miyagi]

I find it vindictively comforting that Doug Marrone is getting no sniff for another job, after stiffing us for a short-term cash gain of $4 mil.

He was led to believe he would be a hot commodity for the Falcons and Jets jobs.

Falcons and Jets are now hot and heavy for Todd Bowles, and the loser gets Dan Quinn.
Bears are almost a lock for John Fox.
Broncos will likely promote Adam Gase, if they want to keep Manning.
49ers is a possibility but not likely, going from Harbaugh to Marrone? No way.
Raiders? LOL best of luck there Dougie.

At least he can enjoy his 2 million dollars after tax and get a college football job.

:bigwave: Dougie!

[EricStratton]

A Jets beat guy for ESPN Radio in NYC said according to sources within the Jets his interview was beyond bad, it was destructive.


I don't know what that means but it sounds bad.

[Meathead]

theres always surprises, i still think he gets one of the jobs. but yeah it would be pretty freakin sweet if he got left out in the cold after what happened - especially considering we basically made a big upgrade from his leaving

[Historian]

"We wear the chains we forge in life!"

[Zero]

Kharma is a wonderful thing ain't it?

[BleedinGreenNC]

He walked away with 4 million, im sure he will be ok.

[djjimkelly]

hes a control freak that has been exposed. it may have worked for the hands off approach russ brandon wanted.

it wont work anywhere else

makes me happy

[djjimkelly]

He walked away with 4 million, im sure he will be ok.

ill just say this in my business ive taken the approach of hitting singles and doubles as my business approach.

i know several others in my business who aim for homeruns and grandslams all the time.


guess whos more successful :) lol doug should have tried my approach the home run approach = crash and burn,


burn dougie burn!!!!!!!

[BleedinGreenNC]

ill just say this in my business ive taken the approach of hitting singles and doubles as my business approach.

i know several others in my business who aim for homeruns and grandslams all the time.


guess whos more successful :) lol doug should have tried my approach the home run approach = crash and burn,


burn dougie burn!!!!!!!

I completely agree, but he will get a coordinator job somewhere, i just want him to stay away from the Jets.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I completely agree, but he will get a coordinator job somewhere, i just want him to stay away from the Jets.
Maybe he will, taking the Mike Mularkey path, get an OC job (not that he was stellar in turning our offense around), then get another chance to HC somewhere after a few years. But at least Mularkey is a likeable guy. Marrone by all accounts is a total dickhead.

But that means he's starting from scratch with his career, when he already had the HC job in his hand and could've stayed. It's not like he was getting fired. He just got greedy.

[User Manuel]

Rule 1: Don't screw with Billionaires and their money. He screwed the Pegulas, the network did the rest. Dougie should have asked Ted Nolan for advice before he did what he did. There is always the MAC......

[djjimkelly]

Maybe he will, taking the Mike Mularkey path, get an OC job (not that he was stellar in turning our offense around), then get another chance to HC somewhere after a few years. But at least Mularkey is a likeable guy. Marrone by all accounts is a total dickhead.

But that means he's starting from scratch with his career, when he already had the HC job in his hand and could've stayed. It's not like he was getting fired. He just got greedy.

i met mularkey in aruba the year after he left the bills. and ill say this he was a rather nice guy spoke with me his buddy and my girlfriend at the time for about 45 minutes in the radisson casino. very likable guy

[Bill Cody]

A Jets beat guy for ESPN Radio in NYC said according to sources within the Jets his interview was beyond bad, it was destructive.


I don't know what that means but it sounds bad.

lol the NY press went after Marrone like a Great Dane after a soup bone and they're still not done. What's next? Tip off his wife that he's having an affair? Yikes

[Bill Cody]

i met mularkey in aruba the year after he left the bills. and ill say this he was a rather nice guy spoke with me his buddy and my girlfriend at the time for about 45 minutes in the radisson casino. very likable guy

Did you ask him why he quit on us?

[djjimkelly]

Did you ask him why he quit on us?

yes i actually did. most wont like the answer. he said way to many people meddling in the day to day. but that is what he said

[coastal]

Rule 1: Don't screw with Billionaires and their money. He screwed the Pegulas, the network did the rest. Dougie should have asked Ted Nolan for advice before he did what he did. There is always the MAC......this

[Albany,n.y.]

If Lance Leipold has a bad year at UB, maybe St. Doug can go there.

[Albany,n.y.]

yes i actually did. most wont like the answer. he said way to many people meddling in the day to day. but that is what he said

Most of us know that's how the Bills were run for 54 years.

My theory was that when Marv came in, Mularkey thought Marv was setting him up so that he could fire him in mid-season & come back as head coach. It was only after Mularkey quit that Ralph told Marv he couldn't name himself coach. After that Marv had very little interest in being GM, because that's not what he really wanted to do when he was hired.

[justasportsfan]

He walked away with 4 million, im sure he will be ok.

Money does not always fill the emptiness/void and I'm hoping this is the case with his ego.

[jamze132]

He walked away with 4 million, im sure he will be ok.

Until next season...

[better days]

He walked away with 4 million, im sure he will be ok.

It was well worth the $4 Mill to get rid of Marrone IMO.

[RedEyE]

Now with John Fox and crew on the market, things even more saturated than before. Marrone F'd up. He will end up coaching in the MAC.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Money does not always fill the emptiness/void and I'm hoping this is the case with his ego.
This is a great idea for an experiment. You give me 2 million dollars and I'll quit my job immediately and let you know how I feel after 6 months. :up:

[Historian]

Marrone F'd up. He will end up coaching in the MAC.

Too bad UB is all set, as he would be a good fit there.

Or Sweet Home HS...

[better days]

Too bad UB is all set, as he would be a good fit there.

Or Sweet Home HS...

I think Marrone would be a better fit for Frontier HS than Sweet Home.

[Mace]

I can't believe the Jets are blowing this sterling opportunity to replace the ghost of Christmas present with brave Sir Robin.

That said, I mentioned a long time back I can see Marrones natural career nest as a bad OL coach, or mediocre mid level college coach. If he's not grabbed this year, he has no way to keep building his resume along with the rest of the up and coming shinies even like Mularkey still had chances, so Marrone shot off his own career foot.

Shame the Jets fail to see how he'd be a perfect fit though.

[Buffalogic]

Lol brave sir robin. Marrone is a total idiot. He's gone, and there was much rejoicing.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Just heard on SiriusXM Chris Mortensen was defending Marrone for opting out due to "upheavel in the front office" and "no quarterback". That sounds like a quitter to me. Mortensen has traditionally hated the Bills since the Tom Donahoe days and of course he's always taking the side against the Bills. He said Marrone would easily be part of the Texans as a consultant if he gets no HC job. Consultant? On how to suck ass and be a big dickhead? LOL

[HAMMER]

And here I've been disguising ass as azz all these years in fear of a mod slapping me for profanity. It's fair game now.

[Mr. Miyagi]

And here I've been disguising ass as azz all these years in fear of a mod slapping me for profanity. It's fair game now.
Ass is fine. What we don't allow will be filtered unless you blatantly try to go around it. So shut your ****ing big mouth mother****ing **********!

[Forward_Lateral]

This is a great idea for an experiment. You give me 2 million dollars and I'll quit my job immediately and let you know how I feel after 6 months. :up:

Give me 2 million dollars and I'll feel however you tell me to feel.

[Strongman]

yes i actually did. most wont like the answer. he said way to many people meddling in the day to day. but that is what he said

Interesting. As in the Ralph, front office, or both?

[Downinfloflo]

Rule 1: Don't screw with Billionaires and their money. He screwed the Pegulas, the network did the rest. Dougie should have asked Ted Nolan for advice before he did what he did. There is always the MAC......

Not true, If a Billionaire thought Doug could help put money in his pocket or trophies on his mantle, They would pay no attention to what he did to Buffalo.

They know he can't do either, So to the gutter he goes..

[ParanoidAndroid]

I find it vindictively comforting that Doug Marrone is getting no sniff for another job, after stiffing us for a short-term cash gain of $4 mil.

He was led to believe he would be a hot commodity for the Falcons and Jets jobs.

Falcons and Jets are now hot and heavy for Todd Bowles, and the loser gets Dan Quinn.
Bears are almost a lock for John Fox.
Broncos will likely promote Adam Gase, if they want to keep Manning.
49ers is a possibility but not likely, going from Harbaugh to Marrone? No way.
Raiders? LOL best of luck there Dougie.

At least he can enjoy his 2 million dollars after tax and get a college football job.

:bigwave: Dougie!

The word you are looking for is "schaddenfruede!"

[Strongman]

It sure seems like he is being blacklisted. The other owners have a good idea how he treated the Pegulas and want no part of that.

I can't remember which game it was this past offseason, but Pegula was interviewed and asked about his thoughts on Marrone. Pegula said that he met with him and gave a mostly politically correct answer about him being "interesting." What struck me from it was Pegula mentioned he was surprised when Marrone cut the meeting short and walked out saying he "had a team to run" or something to that effect.

Not the thing to do to the guy who signs your paychecks. I know if I was in TPeg's situation, I would be like, "WTF? Doesn't this ***hole understand that I'm the one who decides when the meeting is over?"

[better days]

Not true, If a Billionaire thought Doug could help put money in his pocket or trophies on his mantle, They would pay no attention to what he did to Buffalo.

They know he can't do either, So to the gutter he goes..

I don't know.

Brian Billick has a Super Bowl ring & would love to Coach again.

He has been out of the NFL since 2008 while IDIOTS like Marrone have been hired.

Something wrong there.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I don't care how he treated Pegula in little details. If he wins, he will have no trouble finding another job, like Jimmy Johnson.

But he didn't. Like other said, 500 in college and an overall losing record in NFL. HOWEVER, he think he's really big time and he believed it fully. Some say its his agent made him opt out but I don't think so. Rex has the same agent as Marrone nad had no trouble doing business with Pegula (actually the same agent representing Schwartz as well; Schwartz is getting $6.1 million from the Lions, more than Ryan's average money).

[Jry44]

I completely agree, but he will get a coordinator job somewhere, i just want him to stay away from the Jets.

I highly doubt that. The time he did spend as a coordinator, he didn't even call the plays ( Saints). In fact, it has been reported after the fact that Marone was the guy handcuffing Nate Hackett this season and demanding the conservative play calls. Marone is way too conservative in today's NFL to survive as a coordinator. He wouldn't know what to do the first time his HC told him to call a play on 4th and 1.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Well he made his bed and now he has to lie in it. Its not like he was given a necessarily terrible hand. Sure his QB retired, which may have influenced his decision, and he would have been forced to get a new OC because even Ralph Wilson would have demanded one, but he had a fairly decent hand. If he had kept his yammer shut and decided to work with the Pegs he could have built something here. Now he looks like an obtuse quitter and that does not bode well for him in the NFL. I absolutely hate the Rex Ryan choice, but as arrogant and irritating as I found him in NY, he always gave it his best effort and always tried to get his players to give it their all.

[DesertFox24]

yes i actually did. most wont like the answer. he said way to many people meddling in the day to day. but that is what he said Does not surprise me one bit. Hopefully the Pegulas will change that. I like Russ Brandon as a marketing business guy but he needs no input on football ops.

[Meathead]

Brian Billick has a Super Bowl ring & would love to Coach again.

He has been out of the NFL since 2008 while IDIOTS like Marrone have been hired.

Something wrong there.

didnt he call out his gm or something after winning the sb? i think hes been blackballed from coaching jobs cuz NOBODY expresses interest year after year. its kind of pathetic how obvious he wants to be a coach again and how nobody even bothers to consider him

[Strongman]

Does not surprise me one bit. Hopefully the Pegulas will change that. I like Russ Brandon as a marketing business guy but he needs no input on football ops.

In one of Sully's article's around Christmas (and yes, I know it's Sully), he did mention how Brandon relished being involved in the business and football side of things. It's total speculation on my part, but I do wonder if Brandon was the one who leaked to Florio that Polian might be coming back to the Bills as a czar to sabotage it. Polian, being up for the HOF, quickly dismissed it. To me, Brandon seems like the type that would do some sort of behind the scenes maneuvering like that to protect his little fiefdom.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

In one of Sully's article's around Christmas (and yes, I know it's Sully), he did mention how Brandon relished being involved in the business and football side of things. It's total speculation on my part, but I do wonder if Brandon was the one who leaked to Florio that Polian might be coming back to the Bills as a czar to sabotage it. Polian, being up for the HOF, quickly dismissed it. To me, Brandon seems like the type that would do some sort of behind the scenes maneuvering like that to protect his little fiefdom.

Come on. Vic Carucci is the source of Polian coming back and everyone knows that. Carucci is very tight with Polian and even wrote his book for him.

[Strongman]

Come on. Vic Carucci is the source of Polian coming back and everyone knows that. Carucci is very tight with Polian and even wrote his book for him.

If that's the case, why wouldn't Carucci be the first to report it? I could very well be wrong, but I thought Florio was the first to bring it up?


The earliest article I could find was this:

Buffalo shakeup could result in Polian reunion

Posted by Mike Florio on December 27, 2014, 1:47 PM EST

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/27/buffalo-shakeup-could-result-in-polian-reunion/

[BillsImpossible]

Who's Doug Marroney?

[Strongman]

Who's Doug Marroney?

Wasn't he in the Police Academy movies?

[DraftBoy]

burn dougie burn!!!!!!!

I'm not exactly happy with the way Marrone left the team either, but seriously dude maybe its time to take a giant step back.

[BillsImpossible]

I'm not exactly happy with the way Marrone left the team either, but seriously dude maybe its time to take a giant step back.

I agree.

Never wish bad things upon other people unless you want those bad things to happen to you too.

I support the Bills coach no matter what. If Marrone was still the coach, I'd support him.

He made a bad move, "OBVIOUSLY," as Doug Marrone liked to say a million times.

Marrone had $8 million on the table and walked away with $4 million because he thought the grass was greener on the other side and the grass got burned by his own over application of fertilizer.

He gave up on his team and hoped people around the league wouldn't notice.

What's happening to Doug Marrone right now is exactly what he needed.

A reality check on himself.

[Strongman]

Marrone leaving is a good thing. Pegula is probably thinking it's great when problems correct themselves like that.

[YardRat]

Marrone is going to have to work hard and overcome a little bit (not to mention win somewhere) to get another shot at a HC gig in the NFL. I could see him landing on his feet to a certain point at the college level, maybe even before having to actually settle for a consultant position for his friend in Houston. What happens from there is up to him.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

If that's the case, why wouldn't Carucci be the first to report it? I could very well be wrong, but I thought Florio was the first to bring it up?


The earliest article I could find was this:

Buffalo shakeup could result in Polian reunion

Posted by Mike Florio on December 27, 2014, 1:47 PM EST

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/27/buffalo-shakeup-could-result-in-polian-reunion/

Its a little more complicated than just writing up a story or going after your twitter account once you put down the phone after talking to Polian. Sometimes you break the news; sometimes you are the "sources" behind others' story.

[Strongman]

Its a little more complicated than just writing up a story or going after your twitter account once you put down the phone after talking to Polian. Sometimes you break the news; sometimes you are the "sources" behind others' story.

Definitely. We'll never know the full story, but it's fun to speculate. Actually, it makes sense that Marrone or his agent Jimmy Sexton leaked it as he had an ax to grind with Whaley and the FO.

[streetkings01]

After Mularkey quit it took him 8 years to get another HC gig.

[HHURRICANE]

After Mularkey quit it took him 8 years to get another HC gig.

Now he's doing what? Maybe the little kids in OP were right.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Who knows? Maybe the Pegulas refused to extend him and gave him a one year proof it type option, and he took the easy way out thinking that he's going to get fired next season with no cash, might as well take the 4 mil now. Makes sense.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Who knows? Maybe the Pegulas refused to extend him and gave him a one year proof it type option, and he took the easy way out thinking that he's going to get fired next season with no cash, might as well take the 4 mil now. Makes sense.

No. if he gets canned next year, he still gets to keep the $4mil for 2016 of his original 4 year contract.

BTW, he interviewed for the Bears job Tuesday, so he is still in play for Chicago and possibly Denver.

[djjimkelly]

I'm not exactly happy with the way Marrone left the team either, but seriously dude maybe its time to take a giant step back.

i also hated his coaching and decisions i disliked jauron greatly i despise dougs smug face

and ive had a couple people like his personality screw me in business .

however made me smarter in the end and destroying their output. i just didnt like him for a long time unlike most

[better days]

Who knows? Maybe the Pegulas refused to extend him and gave him a one year proof it type option, and he took the easy way out thinking that he's going to get fired next season with no cash, might as well take the 4 mil now. Makes sense.

It looks like the Pegula's were going to give Marrone at least one more year to prove himself.

If he got fired at the end of that year, he would have collected the $4 Mill & another $4 Mill for the next year.

You don't get paid in the NFL when you quit (Marrone aside) but you do get paid when you get fired.

[djjimkelly]

It looks like the Pegula's were going to give Marrone at least one more year to prove himself.

If he got fired at the end of that year, he would have collected the $4 Mill & another $4 Mill for the next year.

You don't get paid in the NFL when you quit (Marrone aside) but you do get paid when you get fired.

maybe kim pegula is a master manipulator

[ghz in pittsburgh]

We'll never know what the Pegulas said and will say to other owners when asked. But it's a guarantee before a team seriously considering Marrone, they are going to talk to Pegulas about what happened on his opting out. Heck, I know every team when hiring a fired coach, talked to the owners/GMs who did the firing. Generally those owners/GMs will be honest, may even be nice because it means helping offsetting their cost of paying someone who's not working for them.

I'm guessing Pegulas words on Marrone is pretty damning. It won't surprise me one bit that Marrone's account of opting out events does not quite match what Woody Johnson heard from Pegulas, which raised a big red flag to the Jets owner, essentially crossed his name out.

[Mr. Miyagi]

We'll never know what the Pegulas said and will say to other owners when asked. But it's a guarantee before a team seriously considering Marrone, they are going to talk to Pegulas about what happened on his opting out. Heck, I know every team when hiring a fired coach, talked to the owners/GMs who did the firing. Generally those owners/GMs will be honest, may even be nice because it means helping offsetting their cost of paying someone who's not working for them.

I'm guessing Pegulas words on Marrone is pretty damning. It won't surprise me one bit that Marrone's account of opting out events does not quite match what Woody Johnson heard from Pegulas, which raised a big red flag to the Jets owner, essentially crossed his name out.
What I would give to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.

[Strongman]

We'll never know what the Pegulas said and will say to other owners when asked. But it's a guarantee before a team seriously considering Marrone, they are going to talk to Pegulas about what happened on his opting out. Heck, I know every team when hiring a fired coach, talked to the owners/GMs who did the firing. Generally those owners/GMs will be honest, may even be nice because it means helping offsetting their cost of paying someone who's not working for them.

I'm guessing Pegulas words on Marrone is pretty damning. It won't surprise me one bit that Marrone's account of opting out events does not quite match what Woody Johnson heard from Pegulas, which raised a big red flag to the Jets owner, essentially crossed his name out.

I'd be very surprised if Johnson directly called Pegula to ask. I do think our organizations communicated in some way, but I'm more inclined to think Johnson reached out through an intermediary to get the information (like GM to GM).

[Meathead]

maybe kim pegula is a master manipulator

well we know shes good at massages and manicures

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I'd be very surprised if Johnson directly called Pegula to ask. I do think our organizations communicated in some way, but I'm more inclined to think Johnson reached out through an intermediary to get the information (like GM to GM).

Just listen to Whaley's interview http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand-3/Doug-Whaley-with-Tim-Micallef-and-Sid-Seixeiro-ts-20150114-Interview.mp3

The last Bills HC reporting to a GM was Chan Gailey. After Brandon took over, Marrone, Whaley both reported to Brandon; when Pegula took over, all 3 (Brandon, Whaley, Marrone) reported to Pegula (confirmed by Whaley). So anyone asking for Marrone's departure details, they have to get it from Pegula and it is not that uncommon.

[BleedinGreenNC]

well we know shes good at massages and manicures


Foot massages as well?

[better days]

Just listen to Whaley's interview http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand-3/Doug-Whaley-with-Tim-Micallef-and-Sid-Seixeiro-ts-20150114-Interview.mp3

The last Bills HC reporting to a GM was Chan Gailey. After Brandon took over, Marrone, Whaley both reported to Brandon; when Pegula took over, all 3 (Brandon, Whaley, Marrone) reported to Pegula (confirmed by Whaley). So anyone asking for Marrone's departure details, they have to get it from Pegula and it is not that uncommon.

From the presser, EVERYONE reports to Pegula.

Whaley is responsible for the 52 man roster & Rex decides who plays.

Just like it was with Marrone.

And Brandon has no football responsibilities.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Another job opening filled.

Bill Callahan takes the OC job in Washington.

:lolpoint: Marr-lur-one-key

[Strongman]

Just listen to Whaley's interview http://pmd.fan590.com/audio_on_demand-3/Doug-Whaley-with-Tim-Micallef-and-Sid-Seixeiro-ts-20150114-Interview.mp3

The last Bills HC reporting to a GM was Chan Gailey. After Brandon took over, Marrone, Whaley both reported to Brandon; when Pegula took over, all 3 (Brandon, Whaley, Marrone) reported to Pegula (confirmed by Whaley). So anyone asking for Marrone's departure details, they have to get it from Pegula and it is not that uncommon.

I'm just speculating this was the case. Woody Johnson doesn't strike me as the type of guy who is used to picking up a phone and would rather let his lackeys do the grunt work. He was born wealthy and was probably waited on hand and foot. Types like that usua!ly don't like to lift a finger.

Let's not forget that it would be the Jets initiating the call.