Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

[CommissarSpartacus]

Rex was the DC for the Ravens for 4 seasons...

Here are some of the guys that played for him...

Ray Lewis (HOF MLB, one of 5 greatest MLBs to play the game), ED Reed, (HOF SS, one of 5 greatest safeties to play the game), Haloti Ngata (pro bowl), Trevor Pryce (Pro Bowl), Terrell Suggs (Pro Bowl) Samari Rolle, (Pro Bowl), Bart Scott (Pro Bowl), Chris McCallister (Pro Bowl).

And these are just the famous guys. The rest were pretty great too.

in 2005, the Ravens gave up 299 pts. Ranked 10th. (Kyle Boller qb)

2006, 201 pts, ranked 1st. (Steve McNair qb)

2007, 384 pts, ranked 22nd. (Kyle Boller qb)

2008, 244 pts, ranked 3rd... (Joe Flacco qb)


See a pattern?

If we don't get a decent qb to protect Rexy's D, they aren't gonna impress.

The D won't be able to protect a bad qb, the way Schwart2' D did last year...

[Historian]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

Maybe we can finally land Ngata...

[justasportsfan]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

until they find a qb , IMO they are looking to let Romans running game protect the D

[Bill Cody]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

Rex was the DC for the Ravens for 4 seasons...

Here are some of the guys that played for him...

Ray Lewis (HOF MLB, one of 5 greatest MLBs to play the game), ED Reed, (HOF SS, one of 5 greatest safeties to play the game), Haloti Ngata (pro bowl), Trevor Pryce (Pro Bowl), Terrell Suggs (Pro Bowl) Samari Rolle, (Pro Bowl), Bart Scott (Pro Bowl), Chris McCallister (Pro Bowl).

And these are just the famous guys. The rest were pretty great too.

in 2005, the Ravens gave up 299 pts. Ranked 10th. (Kyle Boller qb)

2006, 201 pts, ranked 1st. (Steve McNair qb)

2007, 384 pts, ranked 22nd. (Kyle Boller qb)

2008, 244 pts, ranked 3rd... (Joe Flacco qb)


See a pattern?

If we don't get a decent qb to protect Rexy's D, they aren't gonna impress.

The D won't be able to protect a bad qb, the way Schwart2' D did last year...

Well Flacco is under contract and McNair is dead so cross those options off

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

So...a ****ty offense screws over a good defense? Thanks for breaking new ground, Copernicus.

[Meathead]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

i thought the romans used chariots

[feldspar]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

See a pattern?

If we don't get a decent qb to protect Rexy's D, they aren't gonna impress.

The D won't be able to protect a bad qb, the way Schwart2' D did last year...

LOL, you came to this conclusion based on Rex's DC stats in Baltimore? Did you even bother to look up Schwart2's defensive stats when he was DC at Tennessee?

Here is how Schwart2's defenses ranked in terms of points allowed when he was DC with the Titans:

2001: 25th
2002: 11th
2003: 13th
2004: 30th
2005: 29th
2006: 31st
2007: 8th
2008: 2nd

Do you want to rethink your conclusion?

And Schwart2 and Ryan BOTH had McNair as their QB. Schwart2 had him for basically 5 years (he was hurt for half of one season). During that time, Schwart2's defenses were ranked 25th, 11th, 13th, 30th, and 29th in terms of points allowed. Meanwhile, Rex was DC for the Ravens when McNair was the QB, and the Ravens were ranked 1st overall in terms of points allowed that year. McNair was just about done at that point, too. BTW, McNair started 6 games for Baltimore in 2007...that's when he was REALLY done for good. If you want to compare, compare apples to apples.

I don't think too many people were going around calling Flacco too good of a QB in 2008 when he was a ROOKIE, either.

I could go on, but that's plenty enough. Your whole argument falls apart, even if it wasn't so ridiculously narrow in scope to draw conclusions.

[djjimkelly]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

RELAX rex is a premier defensive mind no doubt the D will play at a high level throughout his tenure

the O will define this REX team in a few years

and relax till then the D is not what anyone of us should be worrying about

[BuffaloRedleg]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

Seeing as though we didn't make the playoffs I don't agree that Schwartz's defense did a good job of "protecting" our terrible QB.

Brilliant observation that we'll need a QB to be competitive, as well.

Keep grasping at straws.

[trapezeus]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

i thought fletch left, but i guess he was spartacus all along.

[jamze132]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

Here's a mindblowing stat for you to do the research on...

Compare the number of wins and losses when your punt catcher has more touches than your kick returner.

Think about it...

[YardRat]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

Gazing into the crystal ball, five years into the future...

Brandon Spikes (HOF MLB, one of 5 greatest MLBs to play the game), Aaron Williams, (HOF SS, one of 5 greatest safeties to play the game), Marcel Dareus (pro bowl), Mario Williams (Pro Bowl), Nigel Bradham (Pro Bowl) Da' Norris Searcy , (Pro Bowl), Preston Brown (Pro Bowl), Stephon Gilmore (Pro Bowl).

How cool would that be?

I think maybe I broke it, though, when I chucked it against the wall in the fourth quarter of the Oakland game.

[CommissarSpartacus]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

You guys still haven't addressed the fact that Rex in Baltimore had a D stuffed with Probowlers and future HOFers, and yet it still stunk both years the offense couldn't protect the D.

Our O couldn't protect our D and yet it still wound up 4th with only Mario Williams as a potential HOF player and a bunch of guys who gained their Pro Bowl cred this year.

Rex is overrated as a D guy, and at least here, Schwart2 is underrated...

[YardRat]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

I don't think Schwart2 will be underrated after this season.

I'm just hoping we can say "Yeah, the defense got worse, but the offense improved enough to make the playoffs."

Not expecting it, but I'm allowed to pull the 'wishful thinking' card now and then.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Re: Rex Ryan's defensive genius cred...

Rex was the DC for the Ravens for 4 seasons...

Here are some of the guys that played for him...

Ray Lewis (HOF MLB, one of 5 greatest MLBs to play the game), ED Reed, (HOF SS, one of 5 greatest safeties to play the game), Haloti Ngata (pro bowl), Trevor Pryce (Pro Bowl), Terrell Suggs (Pro Bowl) Samari Rolle, (Pro Bowl), Bart Scott (Pro Bowl), Chris McCallister (Pro Bowl).

And these are just the famous guys. The rest were pretty great too.

in 2005, the Ravens gave up 299 pts. Ranked 10th. (Kyle Boller qb)

2006, 201 pts, ranked 1st. (Steve McNair qb)

2007, 384 pts, ranked 22nd. (Kyle Boller qb)

2008, 244 pts, ranked 3rd... (Joe Flacco qb)


See a pattern?

If we don't get a decent qb to protect Rexy's D, they aren't gonna impress.

The D won't be able to protect a bad qb, the way Schwart2' D did last year...

DUH!!!!!

IF we have to slug through it with EJ it is bad news all around. However, I am not ready to say Rex will wreck this team just yet. Talk to me at least after free agency and the draft.