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  • Albany,n.y.
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    • Jul 2002
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    Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

    Slow Eyes, as was reported in an EJ Manuel scouting report is a real thing-I know because I have them.

    Basically, slow eyes means you cannot shift your focus at the speed that most other people doing the same task can. I'll give you 2 examples.

    Example #1-when I play card games on the computer I make mistakes because I'm trying to keep my speed up but cannot focus on the current card fast enough. For example when I play hearts, I cannot immediately focus on the card dealt immediately to my right when it's the 3rd card dealt. Instead, I tend to remain focused on the 1st 2 cards drawn.

    Example #2- I used to go out walking with a group of 3 or 4 other guys. As we walked someone would point out something of interest to look at and I would always be focused on something the other guys were not focused on-usually because I had zeroed in on something that caught my attention & my slow eyes couldn't adjust to new things in my vision range as fast as the other guys. I tended to keep focus on things closer to me while the others focused on things further away. I had to ask exact locations in order to shift to what the other guy pointed out. I always said to one friend-"We're never looking in the same place."

    Now lets shift this to a football field and the speed of an NFL game and the requirement to read defenses quickly. If as scouted, EJ has slow eyes there's nothing he can do to ever overcome what is his lack of ability to adjust to the speed of what is happening on the field. For most of us with a similar condition we are able to overcome it in most daily tasks because we have the time to adjust and not get clobbered by someone looking to tackle us as we adjust or trying to throw an object to someone running in the opposite direction of where we are standing.
    Last edited by Albany,n.y.; 01-25-2015, 12:31 PM.
  • YardRat
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    • Dec 2004
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    #2
    Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

    Interesting...I have to be honest, this is the first time I've ever heard of it, regarding EJ or anybody else for that matter.

    Is it considered an affliction? How is it diagnosed?
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    • justasportsfan
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      • Jul 2002
      • 71612

      #3
      Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

      Wouldn't the bills or entire football nation even in college have known of this?
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      • Mace
        Haha...yeah you think so ?
        • Mar 2013
        • 20315

        #4
        Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

        Well, the thing is though, I don't think McShay meant the neural condition :

        "He has slow eyes on the football field as a passer, and I think his accuracy is below average to marginal when you compare him to other prospects. ...
        The Buffalo Bills made the most controversial pick of the first round of the NFL draft by taking former Florida State quarterback EJ Manuel at No. 16. No one expected Manuel to be the top quarterback off the board.


        Cosell said similar about Geno Smith :

        According to Cosell, Smith misses too many routine throws, a sign that his ball location isn't as precise as it should be for a pocket passer. Cosell also has concerns about Smith's "slow eyes."
        Geno Smith could end up being the first overall pick in the NFL Draft, but NFL Films guru Greg Cosell isn't convinced Smith is the best QB on the board. He explained why on "The Rich Eisen Podcast."


        I think they mean it more in the sense of scouting jargon than medical though.

        Edit : Just found this :

        Todd McShay of ESPN ripped him after the pick for having "slow eyes," and Patrick asked Manuel about that criticism specifically; Manuel laughed it off.

        "I don't know, man. Slow eyes. I haven't heard that one yet," Manuel said. "Hopefully, my eyes will quicken up."
        Last edited by Mace; 01-25-2015, 01:02 PM.

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        • better days
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          • Jan 2010
          • 22028

          #5
          Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

          Originally posted by Albany,n.y. View Post
          Slow Eyes, as was reported in an EJ Manuel scouting report is a real thing-I know because I have them.

          Basically, slow eyes means you cannot shift your focus at the speed that most other people doing the same task can. I'll give you 2 examples.

          Example #1-when I play card games on the computer I make mistakes because I'm trying to keep my speed up but cannot focus on the current card fast enough. For example when I play hearts, I cannot immediately focus on the card dealt immediately to my right when it's the 3rd card dealt. Instead, I tend to remain focused on the 1st 2 cards drawn.

          Example #2- I used to go out walking with a group of 3 or 4 other guys. As we walked someone would point out something of interest to look at and I would always be focused on something the other guys were not focused on-usually because I had zeroed in on something that caught my attention & my slow eyes couldn't adjust to new things in my vision range as fast as the other guys. I tended to keep focus on things closer to me while the others focused on things further away. I had to ask exact locations in order to shift to what the other guy pointed out. I always said to one friend-"We're never looking in the same place."

          Now lets shift this to a football field and the speed of an NFL game and the requirement to read defenses quickly. If as scouted, EJ has slow eyes there's nothing he can do to ever overcome what is his lack of ability to adjust to the speed of what is happening on the field. For most of us with a similar condition we are able to overcome it in most daily tasks because we have the time to adjust and not get clobbered by someone looking to tackle us as we adjust or trying to throw an object to someone running in the opposite direction of where we are standing.
          You have slow eyes, that explains a lot about your posting.

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          • sudzy
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            • Apr 2013
            • 2802

            #6
            Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

            Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
            Wouldn't the bills or entire football nation even in college have known of this?
            Maybe the rest of the NFL did know it. I've seen no reports of any other team as having EJ as a 1st rounder. In fact, there was a picture of Jerry Jones standing in front of his board where they had EJ as a 3rd rounder. The Bills were desperate for franchise QB. I think they tried to make one out of a draft that clearly didn't have one. And guess what? They still are desperate for a franchise QB.

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            • justasportsfan
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 71612

              #7
              Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

              Originally posted by sudzy View Post
              Maybe the rest of the NFL did know it. I've seen no reports of any other team as having EJ as a 1st rounder. In fact, there was a picture of Jerry Jones standing in front of his board where they had EJ as a 3rd rounder. The Bills were desperate for franchise QB. I think they tried to make one out of a draft that clearly didn't have one. And guess what? They still are desperate for a franchise QB.
              I mentioned college too. I don't think EJ would've been able to play in college if he had that condition
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              • better days
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                • Jan 2010
                • 22028

                #8
                Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

                Originally posted by sudzy View Post
                Maybe the rest of the NFL did know it. I've seen no reports of any other team as having EJ as a 1st rounder. In fact, there was a picture of Jerry Jones standing in front of his board where they had EJ as a 3rd rounder. The Bills were desperate for franchise QB. I think they tried to make one out of a draft that clearly didn't have one. And guess what? They still are desperate for a franchise QB.
                Well, with Romo, the Cowboys didn't really have a NEED at QB so 3rd rnd was probably as high as they wanted to go at that position.

                Among teams needing a QB were the Jets & Eagles who both were interested in EJ.

                NOBODY knows where EJ would have been drafted if the Bills did not take him when they did, but the Bills were able to trade down & still draft KIKO who has FIRST RD talent as well as EJ.

                GOOD JOB by the Bills IMO.

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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #9
                  Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

                  Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
                  I mentioned college too. I don't think EJ would've been able to play in college if he had that condition
                  And while a number of people say EJ was terrible in College as well, he had a 12-2 record his Senior year & WON Bowl games for Fla State.

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                  • DynaPaul
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 7540

                    #10
                    Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

                    Bill Nye says you make no sense.

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                    • stuckincincy
                      Buffalo Bills Fan
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 15084

                      #11
                      Re: Its time to explain Slow Eyes & why it can't be overcome

                      Originally posted by Albany,n.y. View Post
                      Slow Eyes, as was reported in an EJ Manuel scouting report is a real thing-I know because I have them.

                      Basically, slow eyes means you cannot shift your focus at the speed that most other people doing the same task can. I'll give you 2 examples.

                      Example #1-when I play card games on the computer I make mistakes because I'm trying to keep my speed up but cannot focus on the current card fast enough. For example when I play hearts, I cannot immediately focus on the card dealt immediately to my right when it's the 3rd card dealt. Instead, I tend to remain focused on the 1st 2 cards drawn.

                      Example #2- I used to go out walking with a group of 3 or 4 other guys. As we walked someone would point out something of interest to look at and I would always be focused on something the other guys were not focused on-usually because I had zeroed in on something that caught my attention & my slow eyes couldn't adjust to new things in my vision range as fast as the other guys. I tended to keep focus on things closer to me while the others focused on things further away. I had to ask exact locations in order to shift to what the other guy pointed out. I always said to one friend-"We're never looking in the same place."
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