Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

[swiper]

Many. And many of which the personnel dictate. Good to hear the new guys may be open to that.

With various players on the Bills roster who are better fits for one defensive scheme over another, would the Bills make the switch back to the defense that has served Ryan and Thurman so well in the past? At least at this point in time, that won't be the case.

"Whatever the talent dictates," Thurman said Tuesday. "We'll play a 3-4, we'll play a 4-3. We'll get in the 46. We'll get in an odd front. It's whatever our guys do best. We're gonna play to their strengths, and when you do that, you're giving your guys a chance to be successful. That's what it really comes down to, is those guys that are out there on the field, are you giving them the opportunity to go out and succeed? So it doesn't matter."

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[YardRat]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

'Our guys' did best under Schwartz, not Pettine/Ryan, so hopefully the new crew is watching a lot of 2014 film and taking notes.

[GvilleBills]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

Pettine is not Ryan. Ryan stops the run.

I liked Schwartz. Can't say I'm disappointed in getting the best proven coach on the market.

[Pinkerton Security]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

Very few teams employee a strict base D - I'm sure the Bills sprinkled in some 3-4, 4-6, etc through last year, so I have confidence Rex will put our guys in the right positions to succeed.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

Has any coordinator ever come in and said "We're running a base [formation] and making our guys fit the scheme." ? As far back as I can remember, every single one has given some variation on this answer.

[Night Train]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

Has any coordinator ever come in and said "We're running a base [formation] and making our guys fit the scheme." ? As far back as I can remember, every single one has given some variation on this answer.

Wanny says hello.

[EDS]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

Pettine is not Ryan. Ryan stops the run.

I liked Schwartz. Can't say I'm disappointed in getting the best proven coach on the market.

No love for Fox?

[Mace]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

Pettine is not Ryan. Ryan stops the run.

I liked Schwartz. Can't say I'm disappointed in getting the best proven coach on the market.

The thing is, Schwartz got pressure mostly just rushing 4, which let them play a db in a sweet spot downfield in the middle. Ryan/Pettine is necessarily multiple look and blitz happy.

The problem might just be that the linemen don't much care for stopping the run besides Dareus. Kyle Williams, high motor achiever, has been a DT on the worst rushing D's through his career, you see Mario trying not to get dirty or hit the ground. It might not be a problem with Brown and Alonso as 3 down LB's doing cleanup and the hitter Searcy, but the Buddy Ryan hybrid defense tree depends a lot on more than the front 4, mostly the db's, while Schwartz's wide 9 depended huge on the front 4 penetrating.

Ryan was just not the best proven coach on the market, though again, I like Ryan. Mike Shanahan was and I don't like Mike Shanahan.

I don't think we need worry about the D, but then again, we didn't anyway.

Thurman is to Ryan as Modkins (OC) was to Gailey though. Sidekick.

[Mace]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

No love for Fox?

Fox only left Denver the day we hired Ryan, so he wasn't really on the market yet.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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Wanny says hello.

That's what he did but I don't remember that being what he said. My recollection is that he said the same "We'll scheme to our personnel" platitudes.

[YardRat]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

"We'll do what Rex tells me to do."

[Mace]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

That's what he did but I don't remember that being what he said. My recollection is that he said the same "We'll scheme to our personnel" platitudes.

Might be, I try not to think about it and make pretend it never happened. I've never seen anyone look so lost and helpless when they showed him in the booth. I felt bad for him, despite how bad I felt for me dealing with watching the results.

[djjimkelly]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

Fox only left Denver the day we hired Ryan, so he wasn't really on the market yet.

id still want ryan

[coastal]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

So refreshing to hear a Bills coach say that

[Mr. Miyagi]

Re: Dennis Thurman on what scheme Bills will use

"Whatever the talent dictates," Thurman said Tuesday. "We'll play a 3-4, we'll play a 4-3. We'll get in the 46. We'll get in an odd front. It's whatever our guys do best. We're gonna play to their strengths, and when you do that, you're giving your guys a chance to be successful. That's what it really comes down to, is those guys that are out there on the field, are you giving them the opportunity to go out and succeed? So it doesn't matter."

We've heard this before. Pettine pretty much said the exact same thing when he first got here.