It's Time To Say Goodbye To Fred Jackson

[BillsImpossible]

Life's not fair, and the NFL is a business. Time to hang up the shoes, Freddy.

I'd love to see Fred Jackson retire as a Buffalo Bill, but sometimes the ideal situation for the player and fans isn't exactly the best situation for the team.

His productivity has regressed. Jackson only averaged 3.7 yards per carry in 2014, with 2 rushing TD's.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4506/fred-jackson

Fred Jackson's cap hit in 2015 is $2.58 million.

That is a lot of money to be paying a 34 year old backup running back.

http://overthecap.com/player/fred-jackson/230/

27 year old Anthony Dixon's cap hit in 2015 is $1.16 million, plus he has ties with Roman.

He was drafted in the 6th round.

http://overthecap.com/player/anthony-dixon/55/

Bryce Brown's cap hit in 2015 is $660,000, he turns 24 years old in May.

He was drafted in the 7th round.

http://overthecap.com/player/bryce-brown/728/

Last year, Doug Whaley wanted to trade up for Carlos Hyde (running back) in the 2nd round.

Now Whaley has a head coach that loves to ground and pound.

CJ Spiller won't be playing for the Bills next year. Another team will offer him more money than he's worth, he can't block, can't run between the tackles, can't take the big hits, and he's not the kind of running back Rex Ryan wants on his team because he doesn't deliver punishing runs.

Fred Jackson is a class act. One of my favorite Buffalo Bills of all-time. I know he's a leader in the locker room, but he is no longer a leader in rushing yards.

I know Fred wants nothing more than to be a part of something we've all been waiting for, but I don't think keeping a 34 year old running back on the roster makes sense going in to the 2015 season.

Thank you, Fred Jackson for giving everything you had in you for the Buffalo Bills.

[Mace]

Nah. Enough said.

[coastal]

jetison the hart and soul of the offense instead of finding a way of keeping him productive (3rd down specialist) and on the team is what... too difficult?

thank God you aren't making any decisions.

[Jaybird]

he's still productive and is the team leader... he aint going anywhere

[TacklingDummy]

and the hate of Fred Jackson continues.

He's been the bills best back on the roster since he's been here.

The a bills fans don't deserve Fred Jackson the past 7 years.

[Historian]

Oye vey...

[OpIv37]

If we were strapped for cap space, I'd see your point on a declining 34 year old running back.

But we have more cap space then we'll ever use. And his football smarts and blocking ability are better than any other back on the roster.

[CommissarSpartacus]

Uh, considering that the guys responsible for the offense have been run out of town, how smart is it to use last years stats to prove ANYTHING?

[Mr. Pink]

He's the starter and will continue to be the starter next year too.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I love Fred Jackson. But acknowledge that if you pay him $2.6 million in 2015, you are doing it for what he brings off the field rather than on it.

[Mr. Miyagi]

It's a BillsImpossible thread. Did you expect it to make any sense?

[OpIv37]

I love Fred Jackson. But acknowledge that if you pay him $2.6 million in 2015, you are doing it for what he brings off the field rather than on it.

And Ralph would have cut FJax and shoved that 2.6 in his mattress.

Pay Fred, or pay someone else who makes the team better. No more BS.

[justasportsfan]

That means we should get rid of Eric Woods,Glenn, Chandler and evry player that regressed under Marrone. Im sure based on Billsimpossibles logic Whaley is also cutting Ej.

[OpIv37]

That means we should get rid of Eric Woods,Glenn, Chandler and evry player that regressed under Marrone. Im sure based on Billsimpossibles logic Whaley is also cutting Ej.

I wouldn't mind getting rid of Chandler (contingent on getting a better replacement) because he never impressed me. I'm with you on the rest of it.

[Mace]

I love Fred Jackson. But acknowledge that if you pay him $2.6 million in 2015, you are doing it for what he brings off the field rather than on it.

2.6 million is modern day chump change though, what he brings off the field is a plus, he's not a breakaway threat anymore, but if you watched any games, the man, old and slow and breaking down, gains yards more reliably than any other back we have. He's not your primary back, but if you need blood and gristle, and Roman does, he gets those yards still. I'm not sure what happens next year, but that stiff arm play happened last season, and I didn't see anyone else get yards with that passion yet.

[BertSquirtgum]

Nope

[better days]

Well, I have the Bills- Packers game rewind still on my DVR & watched it today.

Game rewind is a 30 minute recap of the game for those that don't watch it.

The Bills defense was on TV for 20 of those 30 minutes.

Orton completed 4 passes, one of which was a 40 yd pass play to Bryce Brown, most of the yds were YAC.

That was his highlight of the game.

Dixon had a couple nice runs, but fumbled the ball which he did recover.

Fred Jackson was the standout RB in that game, picking up first downs time & again.

I am happy with all the Bills RB's, ESPECIALLY Fred. I don't want to waste a draft pick on that position this year.

As Whaley said, Brown is essentially the Bills 4th rnd pick this year.

[Ingtar33]

i think we're getting an amazing deal paying fred just 2.6mil; seems like a steal.

why would you cut an A+ team leader and great guy like fred to save 2.6mil when we have like 30mil free cap space? seems sorta stupid to me.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

And Ralph would have cut FJax and shoved that 2.6 in his mattress.

Pay Fred, or pay someone else who makes the team better. No more BS.


2.6 million is modern day chump change though, what he brings off the field is a plus, he's not a breakaway threat anymore, but if you watched any games, the man, old and slow and breaking down, gains yards more reliably than any other back we have. He's not your primary back, but if you need blood and gristle, and Roman does, he gets those yards still. I'm not sure what happens next year, but that stiff arm play happened last season, and I didn't see anyone else get yards with that passion yet.

$2.6 million is not chump change. And if you were to ask what the going rate is for a 34 year old halfback whose Y/C dipped well below 4 this year, then you wouldn't get half that.

And that's fine. If you want to pay Fred that, I understand and I can get behind it. But don't pretend he's still going to get out there and rock out 15+ carries a game at 34 years old, it's not a realistic belief. He's being paid that because he's a great locker room guy.

[DynaPaul]

You crazy.

[swiper]

Get a life BillsImpossible.

[Night Train]

Fred will leave on his terms and can still contribute. 3rd and short or 1st and goal, he's money with some actual blocking in front of him.

[Forward_Lateral]

You don't cut your heart and soul.

If he doesn't retire a Buffalo Bill, it will be a huge black eye on the organization, IMO.

[Famous Amos]

Who does the Bills have to replace his blitz pick up and pass blocking abilities? His hands coming out of the backfield?
He was fielding punts or kicks last year for cirssakes. That should prove how valuable the Bills think Jackson is.

[justasportsfan]

I wouldn't mind getting rid of Chandler (contingent on getting a better replacement) because he never impressed me. I'm with you on the rest of it.

We havent replaced him with anyone so as of this posting he's our best TE. Besides, I'd rather keep him as a no2 TE if we found a no.1.

[sudzy]

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[HHURRICANE]

jetison the hart and soul of the offense instead of finding a way of keeping him productive (3rd down specialist) and on the team is what... too difficult?

thank God you aren't making any decisions.

The heart and soul of our 32nd ranked offense. I'm sorry, love Fred the day he showed up here, but the thread is correct.

Time for a change.

[swiper]

Come up with a better one and perhaps they will. But anyone named Brown, Dixon or Spiller is not part of the answer.

[black N yellow]

how about no.

[coastal]

The heart and soul of our 32nd ranked offense. I'm sorry, love Fred the day he showed up here, but the thread is correct.

Time for a change.
Fyi... I think we should draft a RB in the 2nd and sign a vet free agent like Gore.

fjax becomes a 3rd down specialist

[jimmifli]

3rd and 3, Oline misses their blocks and Fjax immediately bounces outside since he has no hole, he makes the first guy miss, breaks a tackle cuts back inside and is wrapped up a yard short but manages to fall forward for a first down.

That's Fred twice a game every week this year.

[BillsImpossible]

You don't cut your heart and soul.

If he doesn't retire a Buffalo Bill, it will be a huge black eye on the organization, IMO.

Was Thurman Thomas cut or released by the Bills? All I remember was him wearing teal and that wasn't right.

I know it sucks, this post sucks, and the whole thing reminds me of Old Yeller, but I had to do it.

Sorry ;-(

Fred's production last year wasn't there when Spiller went down.

The Bills finished 25th in rushing, and the most yards they gained on the ground in a game was 77.

I'm not a cap guru, but $2.6 million is a lot of money to pay a running back when you consider trying to sign Jerry Hughes to a huge contract, and hopefully extending Dareus too.

Hate to say it, but it is what it is. Getting older is hard to accept.

Highly unpopular, yes, but I think Jackson should retire this off-season and maybe become a coaching assistant to the team.

That's better than wearing teal.

[BillsImpossible]

That means we should get rid of Eric Woods,Glenn, Chandler and evry player that regressed under Marrone. Im sure based on Billsimpossibles logic Whaley is also cutting Ej.

Wood (not Woods), Glenn, and Chandler are not going to be 34 years old on February 20th. That's not a fair comparison, both ways.

[chris66]

can you imagine FJ in a pats uniform.

[justasportsfan]

Wood (not Woods), Glenn, and Chandler are not going to be 34 years old on February 20th. That's not a fair comparison, both ways.

The point is, you said he regressed. The entire offense regressed therefore we should get rid of everyone that regressed. That's just stupid becausea lot of players regressed under Marrones offense.

[justasportsfan]

The heart and soul of our 32nd ranked offense. I'm sorry, love Fred the day he showed up here, but the thread is correct.

Time for a change.
32nd ranked O? No wonder why you agree with the thread. Just as clueless .

[BillsImpossible]

32nd ranked O? No wonder why you agree with the thread. Just as clueless .

Bills finished 26th overall in offense, it's in the same toilet bowl.

[justasportsfan]

Bills finished 26th overall in offense, it's in the same toilet bowl.

It wasn't because of FJ for sure. Fj kept it from being 32
There's only so much he can do with crappy coaching which made the OL regress. Get a clue

[BillsImpossible]

The point is, you said he regressed. The entire offense regressed therefore we should get rid of everyone that regressed. That's just stupid becausea lot of players regressed under Marrones offense.

Jackson's productivity did not fall because of Marrone.

Fred Jackson had 9 rushing TD's in Marrone's first year in 2013, 4.3 yards per carry and 890 yards on the season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/10195/year/2013/fred-jackson

Compare those numbers with his productivity in 2014.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/10195/fred-jackson

Fred Jackson did not regress because of Doug Marrone's offense.

He regressed because of Father Time.

[justasportsfan]

Jackson's productivity did not fall because of Marrone.

Fred Jackson had 9 rushing TD's in Marrone's first year in 2013, 4.3 yards per carry and 890 yards on the season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/10195/year/2013/fred-jackson

Compare those numbers with his productivity in 2014.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/10195/fred-jackson

Fred Jackson did not regress because of Doug Marrone's offense.

He regressed because of Father Time.
Sheez you're clueless.Are you telling us the crappy ol was due to Fjs father time.CJ must be old too because he regressed too.

[BillsImpossible]

Sheez you're clueless.Are you telling us the crappy ol was due to Fjs father time.CJ must be old too because he regressed too.

The All-22 showed time and time again how CJ Spiller missed wide open running lanes, just like the All-22 showed EJ Manuel missing wide open receivers.

[YardRat]

Freddie can't carry a full load any more obviously, but I would bet there are 31 other teams in the league that would love to have him in the rotation and the locker room.