Opinion: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

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  • BillsImpossible
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 16206

    Opinion: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

    Right next to RWS.

    A downtown NFL stadium is the farthest thing from a single silver bullet solution to the economic problems that ail the city of Buffalo.

    8 games a year downtown is not going to change much. Some new businesses will try to capitalize on the opportunity, but 8 days a year isn't much to work with. If the new venue acts as a convention center that hosts events year round, that's a different story that involves building a domed stadium, which is not a popular idea in Buffalo. Doesn't take a million dollar marketing study to figure out that Bills fans don't want to be stuck under a dome.

    Retractable roof? It's only another $200 million.

    What the Pegula's have going now downtown is great. Never saw so many people in the city on a Sunday....

    I don't want to build a new stadium downtown for the sake of building a new stadium downtown with hopes that it will magically regenerate the city of Buffalo.

    That's Fantasyland, and I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

    Why didn't the Patriots build Gillette Stadium in downtown Boston?

    Have you ever attempted to drive in Boston?

    Jerryland was built in Arlington, TX. Why not Dallas?

    Traffic.

    On any given working day in the city of Buffalo, about 100,000 commuters or more travel to work downtown.

    Imagine having every person that works downtown trying to travel to one place in the middle of the city.

    Take a Buffalo Sabres playoff game and multiply the traffic X 5.

    Hosting an NFL game in downtown Buffalo is not feasible without billions of dollars invested in road infrastructure expenditures.

    If Terry and Kim Pegula can convince the State of New York to invest, "The Buffalo Billion," in new roads and bridges that will make the city capable of handling the traffic, then a new stadium downtown is possible.

    The road infrastructure must be built first. The Pegula's can not possibly build a new stadium downtown without it.

    Hoping New York State will kick the big bucks in to what is necessary to accommodate the amount of people that attend a Buffalo Bills game is wishful thinking at best.

    A brand new stadium built right next to the Ralph?

    No environmental studies necessary. No traffic study or road funding worries.

    It's the path of least business building resistance.

    If the Bills build a new stadium in Orchard Park, I don't think many fans would complain.
    Last edited by Yasgur's Farm; 01-31-2015, 06:20 PM.
  • feldspar
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 13620

    #2
    Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

    I guess we'll all stop speculating now.

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    • BillsImpossible
      Registered User
      • Mar 2013
      • 16206

      #3
      Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

      Originally posted by feldspar View Post
      I guess we'll all stop speculating now.
      The Pegula's and Bills fans have about 5 years at most to speculate.

      In the meantime, New York State has about 5 years to build a billion dollars worth of new roads and bridges, and that's not going to happen.

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      • feldspar
        Registered User
        • Mar 2007
        • 13620

        #4
        Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

        Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
        The Pegula's and Bills fans have about 5 years at most to speculate.

        In the meantime, New York State has about 5 years to build a billion dollars worth of new roads and bridges, and that's not going to happen.
        We'll see, pal.

        I'd love for the new stadium to be in Orchard Park, personally.

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        • Mr. Pink
          Peterman Sucks!
          • Mar 2006
          • 35303

          #5
          Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

          And the NFL doesn't play on workdays, so if 100,000 commuters go downtown daily for work, what's about 65,000 commuters and likely 30,000 cars going downtown on a Sunday to watch a football game?

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          • THATHURMANATOR
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 69112

            #6
            Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

            Guaranteed downtown. What a waste of time with this longwinded post

            - - - Updated - - -

            Billion dollars in roads??? What???

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            • BillsImpossible
              Registered User
              • Mar 2013
              • 16206

              #7
              Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

              Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
              Guaranteed downtown. What a waste of time with this longwinded post

              - - - Updated - - -

              Billion dollars in roads??? What???
              Yup. Major road constuction is necessary in order to facilitate NFL football in downtown Buffalo. That's a fact, not exaggeration.

              Takes lots of $ to pay for that.

              A section of Main Street in downtown Buffalo was recently made accessible to vehicular traffic of all things.

              That project alone cost many millions of dollars.

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              • Mr. Pink
                Peterman Sucks!
                • Mar 2006
                • 35303

                #8
                Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                There are 3 ways into and out of downtown...

                33, 190 and 5. 190 has multiple exits to access downtown.

                How many more roads do you need?

                For perspective there are 2 ways into Orchard Park, 90 and 219, meanwhile if you're heading to the North Towns, you're only taking 219 to 90 anyway.

                The one thing that would be needed is parking but if they use a large enough parcel of land, they'll have the parking.

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                • WagonCircler
                  Escaped Convict
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5876

                  #9
                  Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                  Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                  Yup. Major road constuction is necessary in order to facilitate NFL football in downtown Buffalo. That's a fact, not exaggeration.
                  .
                  My GOD you're naive.

                  Major road construction is how politicians get paid in this state. Kickbacks from contractors.

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                  • Dr. Lecter
                    Zero for Zero!
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 67930

                    #10
                    Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                    So he has built the Harbor Center and owns the Sabres downtown and now will put his sure to be multi use facility in OP and not downtown?

                    Really?
                    Originally posted by mysticsoto
                    Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                    • BertSquirtgum
                      Registered User
                      • May 2009
                      • 13379

                      #11
                      Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                      Originally posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
                      So he has built the Harbor Center and owns the Sabres downtown and now will put his sure to be multi use facility in OP and not downtown?

                      Really?
                      Exactly. The new stadium is going downtown. Anyone that doesn't believe that is an ignorant fool.

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                      • DetDannyWilliams
                        Nobody in Hawaii wears a tie.
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 4186

                        #12
                        Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                        Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                        Right next to RWS.

                        A downtown NFL stadium is the farthest thing from a single silver bullet solution to the economic problems that ail the city of Buffalo.

                        8 games a year downtown is not going to change much. Some new businesses will try to capitalize on the opportunity, but 8 days a year isn't much to work with. If the new venue acts as a convention center that hosts events year round, that's a different story that involves building a domed stadium, which is not a popular idea in Buffalo. Doesn't take a million dollar marketing study to figure out that Bills fans don't want to be stuck under a dome.

                        Retractable roof? It's only another $200 million.

                        What the Pegula's have going now downtown is great. Never saw so many people in the city on a Sunday....

                        I don't want to build a new stadium downtown for the sake of building a new stadium downtown with hopes that it will magically regenerate the city of Buffalo.

                        That's Fantasyland, and I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

                        Why didn't the Patriots build Gillette Stadium in downtown Boston?

                        Have you ever attempted to drive in Boston?

                        Jerryland was built in Arlington, TX. Why not Dallas?

                        Traffic.

                        On any given working day in the city of Buffalo, about 100,000 commuters or more travel to work downtown.

                        Imagine having every person that works downtown trying to travel to one place in the middle of the city.

                        Take a Buffalo Sabres playoff game and multiply the traffic X 5.

                        Hosting an NFL game in downtown Buffalo is not feasible without billions of dollars invested in road infrastructure expenditures.

                        If Terry and Kim Pegula can convince the State of New York to invest, "The Buffalo Billion," in new roads and bridges that will make the city capable of handling the traffic, then a new stadium downtown is possible.

                        The road infrastructure must be built first. The Pegula's can not possibly build a new stadium downtown without it.

                        Hoping New York State will kick the big bucks in to what is necessary to accommodate the amount of people that attend a Buffalo Bills game is wishful thinking at best.

                        A brand new stadium built right next to the Ralph?

                        No environmental studies necessary. No traffic study or road funding worries.

                        It's the path of least business building resistance.

                        If the Bills build a new stadium in Orchard Park, I don't think many fans would complain.
                        Right that's why WGRZ, BN, Sienna College poll done last week said that 73% prefer a new stadium to be built in Downtown
                        Last edited by DetDannyWilliams; 01-30-2015, 10:28 PM.

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                        • MikeNC
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 127

                          #13
                          Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                          Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
                          Guaranteed downtown. What a waste of time with this longwinded post

                          - - - Updated - - -

                          Billion dollars in roads??? What???

                          Agreed... I live in Charlotte and I can leave the stadium and be home in 15 minutes, and I live up in University City....

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                          • BertSquirtgum
                            Registered User
                            • May 2009
                            • 13379

                            #14
                            Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                            Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                            Yup. Major road constuction is necessary in order to facilitate NFL football in downtown Buffalo. That's a fact, not exaggeration.

                            Takes lots of $ to pay for that.

                            A section of Main Street in downtown Buffalo was recently made accessible to vehicular traffic of all things.

                            That project alone cost many millions of dollars.
                            Not a fact. Just your opinion. You often confuse your opinions with facts.

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                            • WagonCircler
                              Escaped Convict
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5876

                              #15
                              Re: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

                              Originally posted by MikeNC View Post
                              Agreed... I live in Charlotte and I can leave the stadium and be home in 15 minutes, and I live up in University City....
                              Just take Tryon!

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