Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

[BillsImpossible]

Gunsmoke Pictures presents the story of the young and unproven EJ Manuel vs. the old journeyman veteran, Josh McCown.

As Terrell Owens once said, get your popcorn ready.

Josh McCown will turn 36 years old in July, but he doesn't come with a lot of mileage.

In 12 years, McCown has played in only 69 games.

McCown's best season came in 2013 with the Chicago Bears.

http://www.nfl.com/player/joshmccown/2505076/careerstats

Why was Josh McCown so good in 2013 compared to the rest of his NFL career?

Was it luck? Just an anomaly? Look at the teams he played with.

McCown was very good in 2013 probably because he had the most talent to work with on offense than ever before.

8 games played, a 66.5% completion rate, 13 TD's and 1 Int with the Bears.

Amazing what good surrounding talent can do for a quarterback, isn't it? His QB rating skyrocketed to 109. Was that a fluke?

Not surprised that the Bears had McCown in for a visit recently.

Reports say McCown visited the Bills, Bears, Jets and Browns.

McCown is now back in Buffalo as of tonight, hammering out a deal with the Bills.

Why? Because the Bills are willing to pay the most money, or he has the best chance of starting with a good offense?

Probably both.

In 11 games with Tampa Bay last season, McCown got sacked 36 times.

In 2013, McCown got sacked only 11 times in 8 games. He threw the ball on average about 28 times per game in 2013.

That's exactly what the Bills are looking for.

I think Josh McCown is in Buffalo tonight because he knows that the Bills are going to build a solid offense around him.

The Bills already have the wide receivers. They're only 1 free agent offensive lineman, a rookie tight end, and a rookie running back away from having an explosive run oriented, protect the quarterback offense.

McCown is going to win the QB competition.

If that happens, I don't see any way the Bills keep EJ Manuel on the roster.

If Josh McCown outplays EJ Manuel in training camp, there's no way Manuel survives the cut.

[Ingtar33]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

it was good luck in 2013. i remember a lot of his possible picks simply hitting defender's hands and dropping to the ground. he got a lot of good luck in 2013.

I suspect last year's numbers in tampa are more in line of what McCown will bring you as a starting QB. I like him as a backup for EJ, not as a starter (as much as i dislike ej, i'd rather him starting over mccown)

[YardRat]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

There isn't going to be a showdown, if that was the intent they wouldn't have signed McCown.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

it was good luck in 2013. i remember a lot of his possible picks simply hitting defender's hands and dropping to the ground. he got a lot of good luck in 2013.

I suspect last year's numbers in tampa are more in line of what McCown will bring you as a starting QB. I like him as a backup for EJ, not as a starter (as much as i dislike ej, i'd rather him starting over mccown)

In 2014, the Bucs offense ranked 30th overall, 29th in the running game, and 25th in the passing game.

The Bucs defense ranked 25th in the league.

Compare those numbers to the 2013 Chicago Bears offense and defense.

Huge difference.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

There isn't going to be a showdown, if that was the intent they wouldn't have signed McCown.

Is that to say you think McCown's going to be the starter?

[OpIv37]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

McCown was signed to be the back up. I'm sure they'll try to make it into a competition to motivate EJ, but McCown just isn't good enough.

I don't hate the signing. We only have one QB on the roster and the FA market is slim. I'm sure the contract is cap friendly. But let's not make it into something that it's not.

[better days]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

In 2014, the Bucs offense ranked 30th overall, 29th in the running game, and 25th in the passing game.

The Bucs defense ranked 25th in the league.

Compare those numbers to the 2013 Chicago Bears offense and defense.

Huge difference.

And McCown was a huge reason for that difference.

McCown was LUCKY for 5 games while on the Bears.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

McCown was signed to be the back up. I'm sure they'll try to make it into a competition to motivate EJ, but McCown just isn't good enough.

I don't hate the signing. We only have one QB on the roster and the FA market is slim. I'm sure the contract is cap friendly. But let's not make it into something that it's not.

In 2013, the Bears ranked 8th on offense.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2013&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

In 2013, the Bears ranked 30th on defense.

Looks to me like Josh McCown will have the best supporting cast on offense and defense to work with in his entire career.

I've already wagered all of my temporarily disabled BZ bucks, but if I could double down I would.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

And McCown was a huge reason for that difference.

McCown was LUCKY for 5 games while on the Bears.

He played 8 games in 2013 with excellent results.

Was it luck, or the talent that surrounded him?

[notacon]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

He played 8 games in 2013 with excellent results.

Was it luck, or the talent that surrounded him?

"Excellent" results??? What are you smoking???

McCown's's Total QBR for 2014 was 35.7, which placed him #28. (he did not play enough games to be "qualified" in 2013). Jesus. Even crappy Orton was rated better at #25.

McCown is terrible. He may have been serviceable at one point in his career, but, now he's just a has-been. He sucks!

[Goobylal]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

He really only played in 6 games (he barely played in 2 others), and 3 of those were against some of the worst defenses in the NFL (Packers, Cowboys, Vikings), while the rest were against defenses in the low-to-mid teens.

[better days]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

He played 8 games in 2013 with excellent results.

Was it luck, or the talent that surrounded him?

McCown had Vincent Jackson & Mike Evans for WR's last year.

It was LUCK in 2013.

But I agree with you, if Manuel loses the starting job to McCown EJ needs to be cut the day that is announced.

[notacon]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

McCown was 1-10 in Tampa. His overall career record is 17-32 split among six different teams.

I guess his best accomplishment was being so ****ty that Tampa will have the first pick that they will undoubtably use on a QB.

McCown sucks big time.

[Night Train]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

FA starts March 10th, then the draft 6 weeks later.

You really think McCown is the last move at QB ?

[swiper]

Re: Who Wins The QB Showdown in Buffalo, Manuel or McCown?

FA starts March 10th, then the draft 6 weeks later.

You really think McCown is the last move at QB ?

No. I thought everybody understood that. Not meant to be a starter. Supposed to suck less than Tuel at running the offense. Stopgap that the Bills need to sign.