Cassel's 10-5 seasons

[casdhf]

MC has been credited with 10-5 twice in his career.

The first time, with the Pats, the team was #6 in the NFL in rushing.

The second time, with the Chiefs, the team was #1 in the NFL in rushing.

Conclusion: If we are a top-5 rushing team, we can win with Matt Cassel :ill:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CassMa00.htm

[Don't Panic]

Sold!

[sukie]

Cassel won't be starter at onset... Book it.

Unless it's a 3-4 game teaching stint... a few crappy outings... Boom EJ is in

[bdutton]

We also have a much better defense than those teams did.

[SpikedLemonade]

We also have a much better defense than those teams did.

True.

How would you compare our OL to theirs?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Cassel won't be starter at onset... Book it.

Unless it's a 3-4 game teaching stint... a few crappy outings... Boom EJ is in

I don't agree with this AT ALL. If I had to bet at this exact moment Cassel is the starter. Only if EJ comes in and is a whole new QB would he start for this team.

[OpIv37]

We won't be a top 5 rushing team without upgrading the OL.

[chris66]

MC has been credited with 10-5 twice in his career.

The first time, with the Pats, the team was #6 in the NFL in rushing.

The second time, with the Chiefs, the team was #1 in the NFL in rushing.

Conclusion: If we are a top-5 rushing team, we can win with Matt Cassel :ill:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CassMa00.htm

No, the common denominator is he was running the same system in both those years. Hi coordinator s were McDaniells and Weiss

[bdutton]

True.

How would you compare our OL to theirs?

We managed to perform well enough to get to 9-7 with Orton as our QB. How bad can the OL be?

We've made a slight upgrade with Incognito and huge upgrade with Shady on the offensive side. I consider Cassel and Orton as equivalent talent. So overall... we have upgraded the offense.

[cookie G]

MC has been credited with 10-5 twice in his career.

The first time, with the Pats, the team was #6 in the NFL in rushing.

The second time, with the Chiefs, the team was #1 in the NFL in rushing.

Conclusion: If we are a top-5 rushing team, we can win with Matt Cassel :ill:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CassMa00.htm

They were 5th in the league in 2012 and he was booed off the field on a 2-14 team.

Sorry, I got to see him enough in KC. In 2010, everyone in Chiefsland was talking about how they got their franchise QB. That changed...rapidly.

[stuckincincy]

They were 5th in the league in 2012 and he was booed off the field on a 2-14 team.

Sorry, I got to see him enough in KC. In 2010, everyone in Chiefsland was talking about how they got their franchise QB. That changed...rapidly.

Just another stop in the Matt Cassel pay-me-suckers tour. He and Orton have a bright future as CEOs or board members.

[casdhf]

I'm not saying we will win. The numbers show it is at least a possibility, especially in year one as a starter.

[Ed]

If we can be a top 5 rushing team and have a top 5 defense, we'll go at least 12-4 with EJ. Book it!

[jamze132]

We won't be a top 5 rushing team without upgrading the OL.

I agree but we could improve the line by simply releasing Urbik and Williams.

What's funny though is that the ENTIRE line regressed under Marrone. That sounds like his coaching ability/scheme.

[mightysimi]

Come at me bro!!

[BillsImpossible]

MC has been credited with 10-5 twice in his career.

The first time, with the Pats, the team was #6 in the NFL in rushing.

The second time, with the Chiefs, the team was #1 in the NFL in rushing.

Conclusion: If we are a top-5 rushing team, we can win with Matt Cassel :ill:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CassMa00.htm

If the Bills are truly in win now mode, Cassel is their starting QB.

I don't see any way Manuel beats Cassel in a head to head training camp competition.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Another conclusion could be that teams needed to be top 6 rushing in order to compensate for poor QB play. I don't see how this is a endorsement.

[BillsImpossible]

Another conclusion could be that teams needed to be top 6 rushing in order to compensate for poor QB play. I don't see how this is a endorsement.

Compare the top 10 NFL rushing teams to the bottom 10 rushing teams in 2014.

Seahawks - Super Bowl loss
Cowboys - Playoffs
Jets
49ers
Texans
Bengals - Playoffs
Panthers - Playoffs
Ravens - Playoffs
Eagles - 10-6
Chiefs -

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Raiders
Cardinals - Playoffs
Chargers
Bucs
Lions - Playoffs
Bears
Titans
Bills
Falcons
Giants
Colts - Playoffs

What about the middle of the pack?

Packers - Playoffs
Dolphins
Saints
Vikings
Broncos - Playoffs
Steelers - Playoffs
Browns
Patriots - Super Bowl (because of Tom Brady's arm)
Redskins
Rams
Jaguars

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2014&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

[Yasgur's Farm]

While I agree that a strong running game is a great asset to have for a winning team... Still not an endorsement for a long time vet QB to have to rely on great running games for his only 2 successful seasons.

That was the OP's argument, right?

[BillsImpossible]

While I agree that a strong running game is a great asset to have for a winning team... Still not an endorsement for a long time vet QB to have to rely on great running games for his only 2 successful seasons.

That was the OP's argument, right?

Yes, and I think it's a good argument.

Teams that run the ball well have a better chance at making the playoffs.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Still remains that the topic of this thread is not substantiated... Try and keep up.

[BillsImpossible]

Still remains that the topic of this thread is not substantiated... Try and keep up.

'Not substantiated?'

What are you talking about?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CassMa00.htm

Matt Cassel went 10-5 in 2008 and 2010.

[Mace]

No, the common denominator is he was running the same system in both those years. Hi coordinator s were McDaniells and Weiss

Weis is a Weis sized common denominator. He thrived in systems that don't rely on his arm, crumples when they do, and does a precision small ball game with sweet play action like no one else available. If this running system works, this was probably the best move they made, imho, because he's going to get snaps, whether or not he wins the starting job, and he fits what they intend like a journeyman glove.