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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86147

    You know what else is funny?

    Running backs are passe'. They've lost their value. They aren't worth big money contracts anymore.

    And yet, other than Suh's and Revis' brief 15 minutes of shine, this off season coverage has been dominated by running backs. Completely.
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  • BillsImpossible
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 16206

    #2
    Re: You know what else is funny?

    Originally posted by YardRat View Post
    Running backs are passe'. They've lost their value. They aren't worth big money contracts anymore.

    And yet, other than Suh's and Revis' brief 15 minutes of shine, this off season coverage has been dominated by running backs. Completely.
    Thank you, Marshawn Lynch.

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    • TacklingDummy
      Unreachable Douche
      • Jul 2002
      • 71724

      #3
      Re: You know what else is funny?

      Rather have a QB or pass rusher.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: You know what else is funny?

        Maybe football is cyclical and returning to more run oriented, with the speed in the D front 7 and expensive QB's getting killed. I can see it.

        How many actual good ones (QB's) are there ? Less than 10.
        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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        • BillsImpossible
          Registered User
          • Mar 2013
          • 16206

          #5
          Re: You know what else is funny?

          The long ball is dead.

          Manning, Brady, Brees...all once upon a time were famous for completing long passes.

          "Wha' happened?"

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          • IlluminatusUIUC
            Registered User
            • Sep 2012
            • 8966

            #6
            Re: You know what else is funny?

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            Running backs are passe'. They've lost their value. They aren't worth big money contracts anymore.

            And yet, other than Suh's and Revis' brief 15 minutes of shine, this off season coverage has been dominated by running backs. Completely.
            Teams forget lessons quickly.


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            • Mace
              Haha...yeah you think so ?
              • Mar 2013
              • 20315

              #7
              Re: You know what else is funny?

              It's probably funnier imho, that all the running back press will amount to nothing for no one with a new dazzling crop coming in as they do every year and teams winning huge via passing games using udfa backs.

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              • Jry44
                Registered User
                • Apr 2013
                • 607

                #8
                Re: You know what else is funny?

                Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                Teams forget lessons quickly.
                Do they though? Or is this whole devalued RB trend a crock of BS that's just constantly regurgitated by the media? I'm leaning towards the latter....

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                • Jry44
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 607

                  #9
                  Re: You know what else is funny?

                  Originally posted by Mace View Post
                  It's probably funnier imho, that all the running back press will amount to nothing for no one with a new dazzling crop coming in as they do every year and teams winning huge via passing games using udfa backs.
                  Who's winning big right now with UDFA backs? Each conference championship team had drafted backs on their rosters, 3 drafted in the first two rounds. This whole theory is bull****.

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                  • IlluminatusUIUC
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 8966

                    #10
                    Re: You know what else is funny?

                    Originally posted by Jry44 View Post
                    Do they though? Or is this whole devalued RB trend a crock of BS that's just constantly regurgitated by the media? I'm leaning towards the latter....
                    They say it because it's been holding true. In the last four drafts, teams have used only 5 first rounders on halfbacks and two of those were used on Trent Richardson. Most mocks predict only 1-2 this year. Compare that to the 5 seasons before that, when they used 17, five in one draft alone. Then look at the contracts: before this year the last halfback to get $10 million guaranteed in an FA period was in 2011 according to Spotrac's tracker. There are only 7 guys in the entire league with over 10 million guaranteed, the lowest of all the "skill positions."

                    Originally posted by Jry44 View Post
                    Who's winning big right now with UDFA backs? Each conference championship team had drafted backs on their rosters, 3 drafted in the first two rounds. This whole theory is bull****.
                    Of the backs that took a snap in the CCG, the highest drafted one playing on the team that actually drafted him was Shane Vereen at 56th - with 1 carry, behind a UDFA on his 4th career stop. The highest drafted one that was actually his team's lead rusher that day was Lacy at 61st, and if you think Lacy is the reason that team succeeds then I respectfully disagree.


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                    • EDS
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5216

                      #11
                      Re: You know what else is funny?

                      Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                      Running backs are passe'. They've lost their value. They aren't worth big money contracts anymore.

                      And yet, other than Suh's and Revis' brief 15 minutes of shine, this off season coverage has been dominated by running backs. Completely.
                      Copycat league, where the copycats almost always fail. Maybe everyone thinks that because Seattle can do it, they can as well. The problem with that line of thinking is that Russell Wilson has much more in common with a young Tom Brady than he has with any of the milktoast QBs other teams throwing big cash at runners have.

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                      • BertSquirtgum
                        Registered User
                        • May 2009
                        • 13379

                        #12
                        Re: You know what else is funny?

                        Originally posted by EDS View Post
                        Copycat league, where the copycats almost always fail. Maybe everyone thinks that because Seattle can do it, they can as well. The problem with that line of thinking is that Russell Wilson has much more in common with a young Tom Brady than he has with any of the milktoast QBs other teams throwing big cash at runners have.
                        That is a colossal load of crap.

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                        • feldspar
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 13620

                          #13
                          Re: You know what else is funny?

                          If running backs have little value, I guess about half the plays are not important at all, maybe. The ability to run the ball is half the game, quite often. Yeah, just pick up any old running back here or there. No problem. I don't get the devaluation of them, particularly if a team can't find a franchise QB, which has a HUGE luck factor involved.

                          Like the Seattle Seahawks, who had the fewest passing attempts in the NFL last year and also had the second most rushing attempts. They ran it more than they passed it by a longshot. And they probably would have won their second consecutive Super Bowl had they ran the ball on the play we all know. This isn't singularly applicable to the Seahawks, either.

                          Just really dumb to devalue the running back position when you run the ball half the time or more. I guarantee the Bills are going to be one of the many, many teams that run more than they pass. Yet people say "pick one up in the third round" and such crap, as if they are created equal. They aren't.

                          How important is it to STOP the run?
                          Last edited by feldspar; 03-12-2015, 11:58 PM.

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                          • IlluminatusUIUC
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 8966

                            #14
                            Re: You know what else is funny?

                            Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                            If running backs have little value, I guess about half the plays are not important at all, maybe. The ability to run the ball is half the game, quite often. Yeah, just pick up any old running back here or there. No problem. I don't get the devaluation of them, particularly if a team can't find a franchise QB, which has a HUGE luck factor involved.

                            Like the Seattle Seahawks, who had the fewest passing attempts in the NFL last year and also had the second most rushing attempts. They ran it more than they passed it by a longshot. And they probably would have won their second consecutive Super Bowl had they ran the ball on the play we all know. This isn't singularly applicable to the Seahawks, either.

                            Just really dumb to devalue the running back position when you run the ball half the time or more. I guarantee the Bills are going to be one of the many, many teams that run more than they pass. Yet people say "pick one up in the third round" and such crap, as if they are created equal. They aren't.

                            How important is it to STOP the run?
                            You're missing the point. How much of a successful running game is the backs vs the line? Putting expensive halfbacks behind bad olines is a losing proposition, and it's one that we have been repeating over and over and over. We've sent three different halfbacks to the Pro Bowl since this playoff drought started, and had three more who had a legitimate claim on it at one point or another. Yet we've barely broken into the top half of scoring offenses over that time.

                            Spend the money building an OL that jackhammers a defense and you can stick cheap, replaceable halfbacks behind it for years. Denver did it for almost a decade. The Jets have been doing it as well. I would much much rather have Iupati blocking for a 3rd round halfback than a 3rd round guard trying to block for McCoy, and it's not even close IMO.


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                            • Cali512
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 6393

                              #15
                              Re: You know what else is funny?

                              Players should be paid on a per play basis. So Wrs, CB, LBs, S who only make impacts on certain plays shouldnt be getting all this money. The lineman, QBs, and RBs should get the most money since they are in on every play of the game.
                              Not here to be right, just here to have interesting discussions about my impulsive opinions

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