Bills currently $5.28mil under cap

[YardRat]

Per Carucci on twitter

https://twitter.com/viccarucci

Also says Browns are front-runners for Hard Knocks on HBO.

[Mace]

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Per Carucci on twitter

https://twitter.com/viccarucci

Also says Browns are front-runners for Hard Knocks on HBO.

That's pretty lean, is 3.something to sign picks I think ? They can blow off hard knocks anyway for the coaching change I believe but it almost seems like something Rex would cultivate. I'd rather see Cleveland on it.

[YardRat]

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Yeah, it's getting lean...I think the rookie allocation will be less than that without a first-rounder to pay.

[Mace]

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Yeah, it's getting lean...I think the rookie allocation will be less than that without a first-rounder to pay.

I think without the 1st, they had 4.8 rookie pool.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-analysis-all-22/2015/3/19/8254541/buffalo-bills-2016-salary-cap-space-projection

[Mace]

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3.3 by this which is more what I thought :

http://www.spotrac.com/research/NFL/projected-cap-space-for-all-2015-nfl-teams-502/

[Mouldsie]

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That escalated quickly

[X-Era]

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Urbik is a cut candidate if they make a move for another player. Especially at G. Mario could free up huge space withy restructuring. I think they may do that when it's time to resign Dareus

[feldspar]

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Yeah, but the Bills have 71 players on their roster right now by my count. More than 18 of those guys will be gone at some point. I'm no cap expert, but I can't see how this won't play in to free up money.

[Topas]

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5 million. That's awesome news !!!
Usually at that point of time we have been 25 million under the cap ...
Thanks Tim (Terry and Kim)

[GingerP]

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Yeah, but the Bills have 71 players on their roster right now by my count. More than 18 of those guys will be gone at some point. I'm no cap expert, but I can't see how this won't play in to free up money.

It doesn't work that way. In the offseason, only the top 51 base salaries count toward the cap. Because many of the extra roster guys are minimum or near-minimum player, they have no cap impact this time of year and cutting them would not save any space.

You have to take that into account when a player is released as well. For instance, Cutting Urbik would save $500K on the cap this year ($2.2M cap - $1.7M remaining SB proration), but he would be replaced in the Top-51 by the current 52nd salary. Since that salary is $510K, that means they lose $10K in cap room. If they designate him a post-June 1 cut, it would spread his amortization over the next 2 years at $850K each, but the savings would only be $840K this year ($2.2M - $850K proration - $510K replacement salary in Top-51), while leaving $850K to be charged off in 2016.

Of course the same is true if they sign someone. Since their base salary, if in the Top-51, would replace someone else at $510K, their cap number will be offset by that amount. So signing Percy Harvin meant a $4M cap number in 2015, but the cap impact was actually $3.49M, since his salary was offset by a $510K base being pushed out of the Top-51.

Only after final cuts after preseason do all player's salaries have to be accounted for on the cap.

[Night Train]

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5 million. That's awesome news !!!
Usually at that point of time we have been 25 million under the cap ...
Thanks Tim (Terry and Kim)

Precisely. Felton would have been our only signing.

[elltrain22]

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If we were to trade or try to sign (if they are cut) Evan Mathis or Jahari Evans, do we have the cap space to sign these guys? Thanks

[EDS]

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If we were to trade or try to sign (if they are cut) Evan Mathis or Jahari Evans, do we have the cap space to sign these guys? Thanks

Yes but they would need to restructure a few contracts prior to the draft to have sufficient funds available for the rookies.

[X-Era]

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Yes but they would need to restructure a few contracts prior to the draft to have sufficient funds available for the rookies.

I don't know that they have to show money for the rookie pool until its draft time

[Ed]

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I don't think Urbik is as much of a cut candidate anymore since he already took a $1.5 mil/yr pay cut and they already paid him a roster bonus.

I'm assuming the rookie pool is only going to be about $3.5 mil unless they make some significant trades. I don't think they need cap space for rookies until they actually sign them to contracts, so maybe they could also wait until they make some post June 1 cuts to free up money for rookies if they want to make some more free agent signings before then.