Compensatory Pick Day

[YardRat]

Supposed to be announced sometime today. Not expecting Buffalo to get any, but whatever is given out will give us a better idea of what exact pick numbers we will be slotted at.

[DraftBoy]

Trickling in via Twitter now...

[GingerP]

Pats, Chiefs and Bengals get 3rds.

[YardRat]

Gee, the Pats get one of the higher picks...what a shocker.

[GingerP]

Gee, the Pats get one of the higher picks...what a shocker.

Makes sense, they lost Talib. NE & Bal play the comp system better than anyone. Both are in line for high comps next year as well due to losses this year.

[YardRat]

Makes sense, they lost Talib. NE & Bal play the comp system better than anyone. Both are in line for high comps next year as well due to losses this year.

I don't think Talib was one of the top 3 free agents last season.

[YardRat]

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Round

Pick

Team



3

33-97

New England



3

34-98

Kansas City



3

35-99

Cincinnati



4

33-132

San Francisco



4

34-133

Denver



4

35-134

Seattle



4

36-135

Cincinnati



4

37-136

Baltimore



5

33-169

Carolina



5

34-170

Seattle



5

35-171

Baltimore



5

36-172

Kansas City



5

37-173

Kansas City



5

38-174

Houston



5

39-175

Baltimore



6

33-208

Denver



6

34-209

Seattle



6

35-210

Green Bay



6

36-211

Houston



6

37-212

Green Bay



6

38-213

Carolina



6

39-214

Seattle



6

40-215

St. Louis



6

41-216

Houston



6

42-217

Kansas City



7

33-250

Denver



7

34-251

Denver



7

35-252

Pittsburgh



7

36-253

New England



7

37-254

San Francisco



7

38-255

Indianapolis



7

39-256

Arizona

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[Oaf]

Those are almost all playoff teams.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I don't think Talib was one of the top 3 free agents last season.

Based on what? The deal he signed was enormous.

[CleveSteve]

<tbody>
2
50


3
81


5
155


6
187


6
193


7
234

</tbody>

[Mouldsie]

It's a math formula, you cant cheat it.


We didn't get any for losing Byrd because we needed Chris ****ing Williams and Kieth Rivers just that badly

[GingerP]

It's a math formula, you cant cheat it.


We didn't get any for losing Byrd because we needed Chris ****ing Williams and Kieth Rivers just that badly

They signed more qualifying players than they lost. They lost Byrd & Carrington, but signed Spikes, Graham, Rivers & Williams.

[YardRat]

Based on what? The deal he signed was enormous.

Good point, he did cash in the most. But, Byrd was #2 on the list, and there isn't anybody that Buffalo lost or gained that was anywhere near the top 32.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2014/ufa/

[gonzo1105]

Good point, he did cash in the most. But, Byrd was #2 on the list, and there isn't anybody that Buffalo lost or gained that was anywhere near the top 32.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2014/ufa/


The Comp picks don't work that way. Its not about who you lose right off the bat. Yes Byrd signed a huge contract but the FIRST criteria that the NFL has in their formula is who you lost versus who you gained by SHEER NUMBERS not talent.

Players who are cut from teams and signed by others do not count towards the formula.

The Bills last year lost:
Jairus Byrd
Alex Carrington
Arthur Moats

The Bills signed:
Keith Rivers
Chris Williams
Brandon Spikes
Corey Graham
Anthony Dixon

The Bills had a Net Gain of +2. This automatically disqualifies Buffalo from any comp picks in 2014 as happened today. It doesn't matter who you lose first. It matters based on who you gain vs who you lose.

Fast forward to this year:

So far the Bills have gained:
Tyrod Taylor
Jerome Felton
and maybe Charles Clay(not sure how he works because he was a transitioned tagged player)

The Bills have lost:
C.J Spiller
Da'Norris Searcy
Lee Smith
Erik Pears
and Brandon Spikes when he signs somewhere else.

Percy Harvin and Scott Chandler don't count towards the formula since they were released.

If Clay Counts, the Bills currently are looking at a net gain of -1. Which means they will receive one compensation pick next year. When Spikes signs, the Bills net gain will go to -2 which means they will receive 2 comp picks.

If Clay doesn't count, the Bills could be looking at anywhere from 2-3 comp picks based on what they lost.

Over the cap has a nice projection based on yearly salaries and where these picks usually end up.

•Cutoff points between rounds and qualifying as follows, based on the contract’s Average Per Year (APY):
◦3rd/4th: $8,198,308 APY
◦4th/5th: $5,703,872 APY
◦5th/6th: $4,300,752 APY
◦6th/7th: $2,289,254 APY
◦Minimum: $730,000 APY (representing the four year veteran minimum salary for 2015)


So lets look at the average per year of the players the Bills signed and the players they lost:

The Bills signed:
Felton: 2.3 Million APR
Taylor: 1.16 APR( May not qualify for a comp pick)
Clay: 7.6 APR (If he counts)

The Bills lost:
Spiller: 4.0 APR
Searcy: 5.9 APR
Pears: 2.3 APR
Smith: 3 APR

That means the Bills are currently looking at a 4th and a 5th rounder for Spiller and Searcy if Clay doesn't count. If he does Count the bills will most likely receive one pick at the moment a 4/5th rounder. When Spikes signs and additional pick could be added giving the Bills 2.

[mysticsoto]

The Comp picks don't work that way. Its not about who you lose right off the bat. Yes Byrd signed a huge contract but the FIRST criteria that the NFL has in their formula is who you lost versus who you gained by SHEER NUMBERS not talent.

Players who are cut from teams and signed by others do not count towards the formula.

The Bills last year lost:
Jairus Byrd
Alex Carrington
Arthur Moats

The Bills signed:
Keith Rivers
Chris Williams
Brandon Spikes
Corey Graham
Anthony Dixon

The Bills had a Net Gain of +2. This automatically disqualifies Buffalo from any comp picks in 2014 as happened today. It doesn't matter who you lose first. It matters based on who you gain vs who you lose.

Fast forward to this year:

So far the Bills have gained:
Tyrod Taylor
Jerome Felton
and maybe Charles Clay(not sure how he works because he was a transitioned tagged player)

The Bills have lost:
C.J Spiller
Da'Norris Searcy
Lee Smith
Erik Pears
and Brandon Spikes when he signs somewhere else.

Percy Harvin and Scott Chandler don't count towards the formula since they were released.

If Clay Counts, the Bills currently are looking at a net gain of -1. Which means they will receive one compensation pick next year. When Spikes signs, the Bills net gain will go to -2 which means they will receive 2 comp picks.

If Clay doesn't count, the Bills could be looking at anywhere from 2-3 comp picks based on what they lost.

Over the cap has a nice projection based on yearly salaries and where these picks usually end up.

•Cutoff points between rounds and qualifying as follows, based on the contract’s Average Per Year (APY):
◦3rd/4th: $8,198,308 APY
◦4th/5th: $5,703,872 APY
◦5th/6th: $4,300,752 APY
◦6th/7th: $2,289,254 APY
◦Minimum: $730,000 APY (representing the four year veteran minimum salary for 2015)


So lets look at the average per year of the players the Bills signed and the players they lost:

The Bills signed:
Felton: 2.3 Million APR
Taylor: 1.16 APR( May not qualify for a comp pick)
Clay: 7.6 APR (If he counts)

The Bills lost:
Spiller: 4.0 APR
Searcy: 5.9 APR
Pears: 2.3 APR
Smith: 3 APR

That means the Bills are currently looking at a 4th and a 5th rounder for Spiller and Searcy if Clay doesn't count. If he does Count the bills will most likely receive one pick at the moment a 4/5th rounder. When Spikes signs and additional pick could be added giving the Bills 2.

What about Incognito?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

What about Incognito?

He doesn't count for two reasons: He was cut and he's been OOF for a season.

[SpikedLemonade]

He doesn't count for two reasons: He was cut and he's been OOF for a season.

Yet, he is our saviour as a starter this year?

Chris Williams in 2014.

Ritchie Incognito in 2015.

Whaley is great in evaluating defensive talent but when it comes to the OL he is blind.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Yet, he is our saviour as a starter this year?

Chris Williams in 2014.

Ritchie Incognito in 2015.

Whaley is great in evaluating defensive talent but when it comes to the OL he is blind.

You didn't hear that from me. I think he's a fine high upside pickup, but I worried as soon as we signed him that Whaley would consider that position filled, and he apparently does.

[SpikedLemonade]

You didn't hear that from me. I think he's a fine high upside pickup, but I worried as soon as we signed him that Whaley would consider that position filled, and he apparently does.

No question he does.

He tried to sign a RT in FA, but there haven't been any rumours of a FA G or FA C.

I don't trust Whaley's ability to evaluate OL talent.

He's great evaluating LBs and other defensive talent.

[mysticsoto]

Yet, he is our saviour as a starter this year?

Chris Williams in 2014.

Ritchie Incognito in 2015.

Whaley is great in evaluating defensive talent but when it comes to the OL he is blind.

I don't think he's our savior, but any way you look at it, he's an upgrade to the Guards we had last year.