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  • Topas
    German smartass
    • Feb 2014
    • 880

    Tank question

    Quick question about tanking.

    Coming in last means only a 20% chance of picking first, correct?
    Because from reading that board it sounds like we need to finish last to get McDavid. But this is no sure thing. Imagine if we finish last and Arizona wins the lottery. That would suck.
    Or am I wrong about the probability?

    Of course I agree, a 20% chance is better than a 15% chance. But it is no sure thing. Still only 1 out of 5.
  • MitchMurrayDowntown
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    #2
    Re: Tank question

    All your odds are correct. We must finish last or risk falling out of the top 2 & there's an 80% chance we won't get the top pick, that's the only way to look at it.

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    • chernobylwraiths
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 41838

      #3
      Re: Tank question

      Finishing last means an 80% chance of getting Eichel.

      The only reason this whole race has any significance is because it seems as if there are TWO generational talents in the draft. Otherwise, neither side would be very vocal.

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      • rbochan
        Zamboni Driver
        • Jun 2008
        • 5060

        #4
        Re: Tank question

        Eichel and McDavid are going to Toronto, so it doesn't even matter.
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        • JATMtheJATM
          Registered User
          • Aug 2012
          • 59230

          #5
          Re: Tank question

          Both? Impressive
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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101230

            #6
            Re: Tank question

            Btw even if we finish last, our chance of getting McDavid is 0% because the NHL is going to rig the lottery.

            They will use McDavid to save some fledgling team like Carolina or Arizona, or send him to Toronto to re-energize the league's largest fan base.
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            • SpikedLemonade
              • Jun 2024

              #7
              Re: Tank question

              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
              Btw even if we finish last, our chance of getting McDavid is 0% because the NHL is going to rig the lottery.

              They will use McDavid to save some fledgling team like Carolina or Arizona, or send him to Toronto to re-energize the league's largest fan base.
              Or to punish the only team that planned a 2 year tank.

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              • mightysimi
                Buckle me in on the highway of sin
                • Mar 2010
                • 6331

                #8
                Re: Tank question

                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                Btw even if we finish last, our chance of getting McDavid is 0% because the NHL is going to rig the lottery.

                They will use McDavid to save some fledgling team like Carolina or Arizona, or send him to Toronto to re-energize the league's largest fan base.
                Cold envelope?

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                • IlluminatusUIUC
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 8966

                  #9
                  Re: Tank question

                  The NHL uses a ping pong ball lottery, right? How do you rig that?


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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101230

                    #10
                    Re: Tank question

                    Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                    The NHL uses a ping pong ball lottery, right? How do you rig that?
                    Who knows? I watched the lottery show last year and they had counted down from the lowest pick to the highest pick by removing numbered cards with the team logo behind it. Translation: the actual lottery was done OFF the air, away from the prying eyes of the general public. So, they could have done it legit or Bettman could have made it up. We have no idea.
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                    • SpikedLemonade
                      • Jun 2024

                      #11
                      Re: Tank question

                      Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                      The NHL uses a ping pong ball lottery, right? How do you rig that?
                      You can't.

                      Same low self-esteem Buffalo sports fan paranoia.

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                      • GreedoII
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 1301

                        #12
                        Re: Tank question

                        Finishing last means an 100% chance of getting Eichel if they want him

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                        • chernobylwraiths
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 41838

                          #13
                          Re: Tank question

                          Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                          The NHL uses a ping pong ball lottery, right? How do you rig that?
                          I heard on WGR that they DON'T use a ping pong ball lottery. I heard it was some computer program that has "randomness" built into it.

                          They will probably use this:

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                          • chernobylwraiths
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 41838

                            #14
                            Re: Tank question

                            Originally posted by GreedoII View Post
                            Finishing last means an 100% chance of getting Eichel if they want him
                            not necessarily

                            What if by chance Boston doesn't make the playoffs and wins the lottery? Do they take McDavid and not the hometown hero?

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                            • IlluminatusUIUC
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 8966

                              #15
                              Re: Tank question

                              Originally posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
                              I heard on WGR that they DON'T use a ping pong ball lottery. I heard it was some computer program that has "randomness" built into it.

                              They will probably use this:

                              http://nhllotterysimulator.com/
                              This article is a few years old, but it claims they did then: http://www.hockeywilderness.com/2012...e-lottery-work

                              Think "Powerball." A bunch of ping pong balls go in a big hopper, they spin it, and one is selected as the winner.
                              If they are in fact using a PC simulation then that is saddening.


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