QB Garret Grayson says Bills and Browns most interested

[Ed]

I was listening to a local Denver sports talk show on my way home last night and they were interviewing Colorado State QB Garret Grayson. He said Cleveland and Buffalo have shown the most interest so far. I didn't catch the whole interview, but he's been working a lot with former QB Travis Brown, who I believe played for the Bills years ago. He seems like a nice humble kid. I never actually watched him play though. There's been some speculation that the Broncos could target him in the 2nd round, but I don't see them doing that.

[Meathead]

bills pretty desperately need another guard so im expecting they take the best olineman left with their fist pick and then shuffle who they have to make the best five

after that, i expect they will take whatever qb is available that is at the top of their board and hope they get lucky

[Skooby]

Sauce for the goose Mr. Saavik.

[Albany,n.y.]

If the Bills take a QB, Tuel gets cut the next day. Then in camp either EJ or Tyrod gets cut. The only QB who has a roster spot locked up is Cassel, because he's a proven veteran backup.

[Bill Cody]

projected as 3rd or 4th rounder

[justasportsfan]

no way buffalo uses their 2nd or 3rd on a qb thats projected to be a 2ndor 3rd rd in a bad qb class. They already reached for EJ in a bad draft class. If Grayson is there in the 5th or later, I can see the bills pulling the trigger after Whaley said that late picks are most likely not going to make the roster anyways.

[Strongman]

I'd rather see them take Cody Fajardo late in the draft, than take one in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

[jimmifli]

I'd rather see them take Cody Fajardo late in the draft, than take one in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

I don't get that. We've under invested at the QB position for under a decade and experienced the results. Yet fans still want to under invest and hope to get lucky.

Late round picks don't pan out.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I don't get that. We've under invested at the QB position for under a decade and experienced the results. Yet fans still want to under invest and hope to get lucky.

Late round picks don't pan out.

May as well reach for someone like we did with EJ and JP, right? Draft an early mid rounder like Trent?

We've invested in the QB position plenty, we just haven't gotten a return from any of them.

[WagonCircler]

The most important thing about this, and the dozens of other QB visits, is that they (meaning Rex) are convinced that EJ is a total bust.

[Bill Cody]

I don't get that. We've under invested at the QB position for under a decade and experienced the results. Yet fans still want to under invest and hope to get lucky.

Late round picks don't pan out.

Taking a player too early doesn't make him better
#EJ

[Bill Cody]

The most important thing about this, and the dozens of other QB visits, is that they (meaning Rex) are convinced that EJ is a total bust.

Nah. They're just not brain dead. That list doesn't mean much of anything other than no one is sold on EJ. Put your dick back in your pants.

[better days]

projected as 3rd or 4th rounder

Kiper has said Grayson could go in the 2nd rnd.

I posted before that Grayson had a private workout for the Bills.

The Bills are INTERESTED in Grayson, I just hope he is there when the Bills pick because the Browns pick before the Bills in every rnd.

[sudzy]

Yes, the Bills desperately need to draft another Guard. But, if there is a QB there that you think you can win with in the 2nd? You have to draft him. Is Grayson that guy? IDK. Haven't done my homework on him yet. But, QB trumps every other position.

[Strongman]

I don't get that. We've under invested at the QB position for under a decade and experienced the results. Yet fans still want to under invest and hope to get lucky.

Late round picks don't pan out.

It's a personal preference. I do think we should draft a QB every year until we find our guy. Without a 1st round pick this year, I don't like rolling the dice on a 2nd or 3rd round QB pick when we can probably get a productive OLer or other position of need. Honestly, none of the QBs thrill me this year, but I'd take a chance on an underrated, high upside guy like Fajardo.

[Strongman]

The most important thing about this, and the dozens of other QB visits, is that they (meaning Rex) are convinced that EJ is a total bust.

Whaley thinks QBs like EJ need time to adjust to the NFL and develop. He's thinking long term. Here's an interesting article on it.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/02/how_college_spread_offenses_ar.html

[trapezeus]

the current line i don't think is as bad as last year suggested. I felt like they largely looked lost and not necessarily overpowered. you'd see guys just stand up and not know who to block. i put that on coaching. and the fact almost every player struggled across the line after being servicable under chan or other coaches, points to coaching more than overall talent.

that being said, it still needs upgrades and i agree, it probably makes the most sense to take the best OL available at our pick and shuffle the best guys as needed. We also need to have more talent on the line to withstand injuries. perhaps the best 5 may be good enough, but i think the drop off with replacements may be our undoing.

as for the QBs, none look like sure things and none look like busts no matter how much wagon circler hopes it to be. If we don't have a line, none of them will succeed and it'll play out like such:

Week1-4, starter is inconsistent, a win here, a loss there, turnovers higher than TDs.

Week 5-7 - via injury or just tired of inconsistency back up comes in. is ok in the wek 5 game, sees drop off until he gets hurt or the plug is pulled. they maybe go back to original starter or feel like the 3rd string guy is best by week 8

Week8-14 - third stringer looks the best of the group, mostly because of limited tape. he captures the fan base attention, but we don't really care that his stats are more or less in line with the other two who go yanked.

In weeks 8-14, the run game and d will determine if we have a chance to make the playoffs for early exit.

To avoid this scenario, we need a good line that ensures the run game has success early and that the QB has time for the 10 yard pass for YAC.

If we go QB early in draft and leave the line with minimal depth, i don't think they have the legs to make it 16 games in a tougher schedule.

[better days]

the current line i don't think is as bad as last year suggested. I felt like they largely looked lost and not necessarily overpowered. you'd see guys just stand up and not know who to block. i put that on coaching. and the fact almost every player struggled across the line after being servicable under chan or other coaches, points to coaching more than overall talent.

that being said, it still needs upgrades and i agree, it probably makes the most sense to take the best OL available at our pick and shuffle the best guys as needed. We also need to have more talent on the line to withstand injuries. perhaps the best 5 may be good enough, but i think the drop off with replacements may be our undoing.

as for the QBs, none look like sure things and none look like busts no matter how much wagon circler hopes it to be. If we don't have a line, none of them will succeed and it'll play out like such:

Week1-4, starter is inconsistent, a win here, a loss there, turnovers higher than TDs.

Week 5-7 - via injury or just tired of inconsistency back up comes in. is ok in the wek 5 game, sees drop off until he gets hurt or the plug is pulled. they maybe go back to original starter or feel like the 3rd string guy is best by week 8

Week8-14 - third stringer looks the best of the group, mostly because of limited tape. he captures the fan base attention, but we don't really care that his stats are more or less in line with the other two who go yanked.

In weeks 8-14, the run game and d will determine if we have a chance to make the playoffs for early exit.

To avoid this scenario, we need a good line that ensures the run game has success early and that the QB has time for the 10 yard pass for YAC.

If we go QB early in draft and leave the line with minimal depth, i don't think they have the legs to make it 16 games in a tougher schedule.

I agree with you that the OL is not as bad as Opiv & some others think it is.

And the Bills have added Felton & Clay, two guys that are GOOD blockers to help the OL.

[BertSquirtgum]

bills pretty desperately need another guard so im expecting they take the best olineman left with their fist pick and then shuffle who they have to make the best five

after that, i expect they will take whatever qb is available that is at the top of their board and hope they get lucky

Guard/Center should be their first pick. Quarterback second. Safety third. then bpa.

[CleveSteve]

It's a personal preference. I do think we should draft a QB every year until we find our guy. Without a 1st round pick this year, I don't like rolling the dice on a 2nd or 3rd round QB pick when we can probably get a productive OLer or other position of need. Honestly, none of the QBs thrill me this year, but I'd take a chance on an underrated, high upside guy like Fajardo.

Yes. just look at Nevada vs. Col State this year. Fajardo has got the onions to be an NFL QB. not sure Grayson does. Grayson is like a caricature of Flacco... completely loses his mind under pressure. Fajardo brought that team back from the dead despite CSU's superior talent.

[Strongman]

Yes. just look at Nevada vs. Col State this year. Fajardo has got the onions to be an NFL QB. not sure Grayson does. Grayson is like a caricature of Flacco... completely loses his mind under pressure. Fajardo brought that team back from the dead despite CSU's superior talent.

I like him as a later rounder. He's athletic and isn't afraid to sling the ball. I think his height is affecting his draft position. I know this will draw the ire of many here, but he sort of reminds me of Flutie.

[TedMock]

I just re-watched some Grayson last night because of the recent hype and because I don't recall thinking much either way when I saw him during the season.

It's only one game at this point, but my general observation is that he has nice touch on his deep balls, average arm strength otherwise, and he periodically throws a maddeningly lazy pass that would be deemed a pick-6 if I were charting for a living. I didn't question his toughness or athleticism. Both seem okay to me, but he should use it a little more.

3rd-4th rounder in my opinion, but will go 2nd-3rd in a weak QB draft.

[Mr. Pink]

Thinking we have a real shot at taking this guy in the 3rd.

[better days]

Thinking we have a real shot at taking this guy in the 3rd.

If the Browns want Grayson, the only shot the Bills have at him is the 2nd rnd.

[jimmifli]

Taking a player too early doesn't make him better
#EJ


Agreed. If you can get the 3rd best QB in the draft later than our second round pick I'm all for it.

[BillsImpossible]

If the Bills take a QB, Tuel gets cut the next day. Then in camp either EJ or Tyrod gets cut. The only QB who has a roster spot locked up is Cassel, because he's a proven veteran backup.

You're right, Cassel is a lock because the Bills gave up a draft pick for him. Ugh.

[Night Train]

If the Bills take a QB, Tuel gets cut the next day. Then in camp either EJ or Tyrod gets cut. The only QB who has a roster spot locked up is Cassel, because he's a proven veteran backup.
Did you see that Taylor contract ? They like him more than you think.

I'll believe all these projections when I see it. These March dart throws mean little.

[swiper]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyrod-taylor/

It's not that much. I don't see them cutting him. But the Ravens, who knew him up close, let him walk. They upgraded to Schaub. Smart move. Baltimore makes many of those.

[Bill Cody]

If the Browns want Grayson, the only shot the Bills have at him is the 2nd rnd.

If the Browns want Grayson that should be a strong indicator that he is a future bust

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Did you see that Taylor contract ? They like him more than you think.

I'll believe all these projections when I see it. These March dart throws mean little.


http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyrod-taylor/

It's not that much. I don't see them cutting him. But the Ravens, who knew him up close, let him walk. They upgraded to Schaub. Smart move. Baltimore makes many of those.

Yeah that contract is nothing. Taylor is on the roster bubble if we bring in a QB.

[Ed]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/tyrod-taylor/

It's not that much. I don't see them cutting him. But the Ravens, who knew him up close, let him walk. They upgraded to Schaub. Smart move. Baltimore makes many of those.
Gary Kubiak who was the Ravens OC last year really wanted to sign Tyrod Taylor to the Broncos. They actually offered him more money than the Bills, but he chose Buffalo. I don't think the Ravens disliked Taylor, he just wanted an opportunity to compete for a starting job.

[Mace]

I saw this article also, and my immediate thought was to see how Grayson beards, by putting a variety of poorly drawn beards on a stock photo of him, to decide whether or not he has the stuff to be a pro QB regardless of his skills. "Grayson", good QB name. I can hear announcers shortening his name to GG. He's got a vaguely psychopathic look in his eyes where I can see him labeling someone who intercepts one of his passes with an unsportsmanlike cleat to the cup, or gouging a linemens eye in the pile, maybe even an opponent...the odd kidney punch to a ref...

But the beard. I worked up a few preliminary models, he looks best in a beard pattern filled with bricks, but unfortunately, so do Cassel, Manuel, Taylor and Tuel, Kim Pegula and Miley Cyrus for that matter. It threw me off so I had to step away from making poorly drawn beards and pattern filling them for a while.

Anyway, if he can grow a beard of bricks, I'd grab him in round 2.

[Oaf]

Travis Brown? Wasn't that guy horrible?

[Mace]

Travis Brown? Wasn't that guy horrible?

That's awful harsh. He was just misplaced and inadequately skilled for the opportunity he was unprepared to achieve.