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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86249

    For the BPA draft mindset

    Based on CBS Sportsline's 'big board' here is a list of potential draft picks for Buffalo going strictly by 'best player available' at their current spots for selections. The bolded are what the picks would be if the Bills war room board mirrored this list, but I'm going to extend the BPA premise a little bit and assume for discussion sake that the team has 5 players scored the same (equal draft value) at each pick. Also assumed is that players slotted prior to Buffalo's picks have come off the board and already been selected...

    #50-
    Danielle Hunter, DE, LSU
    Nate Orchard, DE, Utah
    Carl Davis, DT, Iowa
    Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke
    Jalen Collins, CB, LSU

    #81-
    Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami
    Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas
    Arie Kouandijo, OG, Bama
    Tre McBride, WR, W & M
    Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson

    #155-
    Justin Cox, CB, Miss St
    Darren Waller, WR, Ga Tech
    Jalston Fowler, FB, Bama
    Geneo Grissom, OLB, Okla
    Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane

    #187-
    Justin Manton, K, La-Monroe
    Austin Hill, WR, Ariz
    Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas
    Wes Saxton, TE, S.Ala
    Terry Poole, OT, SD St

    #193-
    Erick Dargan, SS, Oregon
    Stefan Diggs, WR, Mary
    Xzavier Dickson, OLB, Bama
    Hayes Pullard, ILB, USC
    Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware

    #234-
    Edmond Robinson, OLB, Newberry
    Cam Thomas, CB, W.Kent
    Laurence Gibson, OT, VTech
    Jamarcus Nelson, WR, UAB
    Cody Fajardo, QB, Nevada

    Happy with that draft? Substitute someone, somewhere, within the five listed for each pick? Go off the board and take somebody ranked lower?

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  • sudzy
    Registered User
    • Apr 2013
    • 2802

    #2
    Re: For the BPA draft mindset

    Kicker??? No F...ing way.
    I like Tomlinson at #50. QB at #81 Greyson, Hundley or Petty
    BPA No Kickers

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    • tomz
      Registered User
      • Feb 2007
      • 1786

      #3
      Re: For the BPA draft mindset

      [QUOTE=YardRat;4081589]

      #50-
      Danielle Hunter, DE, LSU
      Nate Orchard, DE, Utah
      Carl Davis, DT, Iowa
      Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke

      Jalen Collins, CB, LSU

      #81-
      Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami
      Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas
      Arie Kouandijo, OG, Bama
      Tre McBride, WR, W & M
      Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson
      ------------

      Those highlighted at #50 are all interesting to me. Wasn't Orchard a major handful as an edge rusher at the Senior Bowl? I recall reports that Davis was also very tough to handle. And of course the power guard.

      Dorsett is Roscoe Parrish 2.0.

      Beyond that, who the hell knows.

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      • YardRat
        Well, lookie here...
        • Dec 2004
        • 86249

        #4
        Re: For the BPA draft mindset

        Originally posted by sudzy View Post
        Kicker??? No F...ing way.
        I like Tomlinson at #50. QB at #81 Greyson, Hundley or Petty
        BPA No Kickers
        Yeah, I know, but for the sake of accuracy I had to use him.
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        • YardRat
          Well, lookie here...
          • Dec 2004
          • 86249

          #5
          Re: For the BPA draft mindset

          Same thing, using drafttek's big board...

          #50-
          Xavier Cooper, DE, Wash St
          Nate Orchard, DE, Utah
          Clive Walford, TE, Miami
          Breshad Perriman, WR, C.Fla
          Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke

          #81-
          Jeremy Langford, RB, Mich St
          Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
          Kwon Alexander, OLB, LSU
          Tre Jackson, OG Fla St
          Travis Raciti, DE, SJ St

          #155-
          Robert Myers, OG, Tenn St
          Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane
          Ben Koyack, TE, ND
          BJ Catalon, RB, TCU
          Dezmon Lewis, WR, Cent Ark

          #187-
          Jeff Heuermann, TE, Ohio St
          Max Garcia, OC, Florida
          Austin Hill, WR, Ariz
          Zach Vigil, ILB, Utah St
          Clayton Geathers, SS, Cent Fla

          #193-
          Derrick Lott, DT, Chatt
          Jesse James, TE, Penn St
          Ben Beckwith, OG, Miss St
          Chris Conley, WR, Georgia
          Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St

          #234-
          Kyle Loomis, P, Port St
          Thomas Rawls, RB, Cent Mich
          JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas
          Conner Halliday, QB, Wash St
          Zach Wagenmann, OLB, Montana

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          #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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          • Mace
            Haha...yeah you think so ?
            • Mar 2013
            • 20315

            #6
            Re: For the BPA draft mindset

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            Yeah, I know, but for the sake of accuracy I had to use him.
            Any time kickers and punters get in there it rattles me.

            Besides that, not having a clue with what they'll do this draft, nothing much will get me crazy upset this draft.

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            • psubills62
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2008
              • 11295

              #7
              Re: For the BPA draft mindset

              Arie Kouandjio, OG, Bama

              Who wouldn't want another Kouandjio on the team?
              "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
              - Nicholas Cummings

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              • jimmifli
                Registered User
                • Nov 2006
                • 7827

                #8
                Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                I think most boards give scores or tiers rather than just a ranked list. So BPA is really a choice that means all these players have about the same value. So there isn't really a need to take a kicker just to satisfy BPA.

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                • YardRat
                  Well, lookie here...
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 86249

                  #9
                  Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                  Originally posted by jimmifli View Post
                  I think most boards give scores or tiers rather than just a ranked list. So BPA is really a choice that means all these players have about the same value. So there isn't really a need to take a kicker just to satisfy BPA.
                  That's why I grouped them.
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                  • The Jokeman
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 9995

                    #10
                    Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                    Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                    Same thing, using drafttek's big board...



                    http://www.drafttek.com/Top-100-NFL-...pects-2015.asp
                    I like this group more than the first.

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                    • Swiper
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 33105

                      #11
                      Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                      Originally posted by psubills62 View Post
                      Arie Kouandjio, OG, Bama

                      Who wouldn't want another Kouandjio on the team?
                      Can't one suck bad enough for two of them?

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                      • Night Train
                        Retired - On Several Levels
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 33117

                        #12
                        Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                        Reagrdless of what they say, teams rank need first and pick the best from the group...unless the group as a whole is poor (see QB).

                        Would be very surprised if 1 of our 2 picks on Friday wasn't an OL. I expect at least 2 by the end of the draft.
                        Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                        • Buddo
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1864

                          #13
                          Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                          Tbh, I think you need to do more of a 'spread' for the values. Chances are there are going to be a couple of guys before the #50 pick, who aren't taken, so limiting the 'choice' to 50 and below, in whichever set of rankings you want to use, seems to me to be likely to miss out on a couple of options. Same for other rounds, but you could possibly have a slightly larger 'spread' for those, due to more guys being taken who aren't ranked where expected.

                          I do think that it's a more interesting exercise this year, than in years past, as the Bills really don't have too many holes to fill, and are much more likely to be 'BPA' on a simple talent basis, than in years past, where 'need' would factor in much more heavily.

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                          • DraftBoy
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 107437

                            #14
                            Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                            Based on CBS Sportsline's 'big board' here is a list of potential draft picks for Buffalo going strictly by 'best player available' at their current spots for selections. The bolded are what the picks would be if the Bills war room board mirrored this list, but I'm going to extend the BPA premise a little bit and assume for discussion sake that the team has 5 players scored the same (equal draft value) at each pick. Also assumed is that players slotted prior to Buffalo's picks have come off the board and already been selected...

                            #50-
                            Danielle Hunter, DE, LSU
                            Nate Orchard, DE, Utah
                            Carl Davis, DT, Iowa
                            Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke
                            Jalen Collins, CB, LSU

                            #81-
                            Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami
                            Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas
                            Arie Kouandijo, OG, Bama
                            Tre McBride, WR, W & M
                            Grady Jarrett, DT, Clemson

                            #155-
                            Justin Cox, CB, Miss St
                            Darren Waller, WR, Ga Tech
                            Jalston Fowler, FB, Bama
                            Geneo Grissom, OLB, Okla
                            Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane

                            #187-
                            Justin Manton, K, La-Monroe
                            Austin Hill, WR, Ariz
                            Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas
                            Wes Saxton, TE, S.Ala
                            Terry Poole, OT, SD St

                            #193-
                            Erick Dargan, SS, Oregon
                            Stefan Diggs, WR, Mary
                            Xzavier Dickson, OLB, Bama
                            Hayes Pullard, ILB, USC
                            Nick Boyle, TE, Delaware

                            #234-
                            Edmond Robinson, OLB, Newberry
                            Cam Thomas, CB, W.Kent
                            Laurence Gibson, OT, VTech
                            Jamarcus Nelson, WR, UAB
                            Cody Fajardo, QB, Nevada

                            Happy with that draft? Substitute someone, somewhere, within the five listed for each pick? Go off the board and take somebody ranked lower?

                            http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...kings/2015/all
                            Gimme...

                            OLB Danielle Hunter LSU
                            OG Arie Kouandijo Alabama
                            CB Justin Cox Miss St
                            WR Austin Hill Airzona
                            SS Erick Dargan Oregon
                            OT Laurence Gibson Va Tech
                            COMING SOON...
                            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                            • DraftBoy
                              Administrator
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 107437

                              #15
                              Re: For the BPA draft mindset

                              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                              Same thing, using drafttek's big board...

                              #50-
                              Xavier Cooper, DE, Wash St
                              Nate Orchard, DE, Utah
                              Clive Walford, TE, Miami
                              Breshad Perriman, WR, C.Fla
                              Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke

                              #81-
                              Jeremy Langford, RB, Mich St
                              Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
                              Kwon Alexander, OLB, LSU
                              Tre Jackson, OG Fla St
                              Travis Raciti, DE, SJ St

                              #155-
                              Robert Myers, OG, Tenn St
                              Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane
                              Ben Koyack, TE, ND
                              BJ Catalon, RB, TCU
                              Dezmon Lewis, WR, Cent Ark

                              #187-
                              Jeff Heuermann, TE, Ohio St
                              Max Garcia, OC, Florida
                              Austin Hill, WR, Ariz
                              Zach Vigil, ILB, Utah St
                              Clayton Geathers, SS, Cent Fla

                              #193-
                              Derrick Lott, DT, Chatt
                              Jesse James, TE, Penn St
                              Ben Beckwith, OG, Miss St
                              Chris Conley, WR, Georgia
                              Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St

                              #234-
                              Kyle Loomis, P, Port St
                              Thomas Rawls, RB, Cent Mich
                              JaCorey Shepherd, CB, Kansas
                              Conner Halliday, QB, Wash St
                              Zach Wagenmann, OLB, Montana

                              http://www.drafttek.com/Top-100-NFL-...pects-2015.asp
                              Gimme...

                              Nate Orchard DE Washington St
                              Tre Jackson OG FSU
                              Lorenzo Doss CB Tulane
                              Jeff Heuermann TE Ohio State
                              Chris Conley WR UGA
                              Conner Halliday QB Wash St
                              COMING SOON...
                              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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