This draft wasn't getting us a QB in the first round...

[HHURRICANE]

I keep hearing in the national media how the Watkins deal prevented us from getting one of the top two QBs. Last I looked we would be picking at 18? Did that mean we were a lock to move up and grab one of these guys?

And for the record both of these guys aren't locks at being stars or starters in this league.

I'm not so sure that the winner for a QB isn't the team that takes the third QB off the board.

Thoughts?

[feldspar]

Actually, the Bills would have picked 19th. And no, we wouldn't have gone QB in the first round. No way. We got quality players via free agency and trade, so we won't really miss the 19th overall pick anyway. Hopefully, the Bills will find a way to make the money work over time.

My thought is that certain people should just shut up and be glad Sammy Watkins is on the team. Harvin and Clay should draw attention away from him this year, in addition to Woods and an improved running game. No regrets here...can't wait to see what happens. It's going to be a really interesting year no matter what IMO, particularly on offense.

[Night Train]

I don't believe there are 2 top QB's in this draft.

Winston is it.. and he's a basket case off the field. Any other is a waste of a pick. Weak year.

Unless Manuel suddenly wakes up, the long term answer was always coming in 2016. Thus the additions of Cassel and Taylor.

20-24 NFL teams wish they had a better answer at QB.

So you field a top D, surround the QB with playmakers, improve the OL play and compete.

Welcome to the 2015 Bills.

[YardRat]

Good year to be looking for a QB without a first-rounder. Hopefully we won't be in a position to grab one of the top 2 next year either without trading up a huge amount of spots, because I'd rather make the playoffs in '15 and let the '16 off-season take care of itself.

[X-Era]

Petty may not be the best in the draft but I like what he brings to the table the most. I think he'll be the 3rd QB taken and I'd be fine if it was the Bills.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Looking back at that draft, as it stands right now, we overpaid for Sammy. I'm glad Sammy is on this team, but I would have been just as happy with one the other top wrs and our first round pick. A qb is not the only position we could have drafted at 19, obviously. But oh well, **** happens...go bills.

[feldspar]

Looking back at that draft, as it stands right now, we overpaid for Sammy.

Meh, maybe, but I don't see how that matters so much.

I read that the Browns would have taken Sammy at number 4 had the Bills not traded up. He was projected to go where we took him.

And like I said, the Bills made up for their lack of a first round pick in other ways this year, namely through free agency and trade. IMO, this all equals itself out at least. There's more than one way to skin a cat. I swear that a lot of folks think that the draft ends after the first round, and that first round pick should always be a guaranteed winner. You can see how little talk there is about the draft this year in Bills-land, which is coming right up shortly. Almost feels like there isn't a draft at all from the way people are ignoring it. Why? Because we don't have a first round pick. How many of those have we had before, and where have they all gotten us?

The only way we could ever be sure whether we overpayed for Sammy would be to know which two players the Bills would have picked otherwize...and we'll never know that.

I'd rather have Julio Jones than all the picks the Browns spent as a result of THAT trade, I'll say again...and by far. And it cost the Falcons a hell of a lot more to nab Jones. It's all relative, in other words.

[YardRat]

I'm OK with the Sammy trade.

[stuckincincy]

Looking back at that draft, as it stands right now, we overpaid for Sammy. I'm glad Sammy is on this team, but I would have been just as happy with one the other top wrs and our first round pick. A qb is not the only position we could have drafted at 19, obviously. But oh well, **** happens...go bills.

The draftniks called last year a good, deep WR draft class, as they are for this one.

And why not? Combine the way college ball is played these days with the NFL's pass emphasis, and you get a steady stream.

I'd really have to like a WR these days before I'd even think about spending a 1st.

[Mace]

If they had a first, I wouldn't want a QB anyway.

The way I look at it, is Watkins good enough to be a first round pick two years in a row, because he effectively is. I'd say no.

I go back again to the Julio Jones trade. Great receiver. Took Atlanta over the top ? No. Just fired staff and started over.

Watkins was the cherry on a cake that wasn't done, custom rims on an old toyota. He still offers great possibilities, no doubt, but drafting him number 1 two years in a row for 65 catches and 6 td's is insufficient.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/bycategory?cat=Receiving&conference=NFL&year=season_2014&timeframe=All&sort=27&old_category=Receiving

Look way way down there around 46. You might like him, he might have possibilities yet, but seriously, that's just not the shiznit.

But but he had no QB ! Yes, that's sort of a problem in spending that much on a WR at the wrong time.

[feldspar]

I go back again to the Julio Jones trade. .

So go back to that trade.

Look at all the players the Browns got in that trade.

Would you rather have Julio Jones, or would you rather have all the players the Browns ended up getting through that trade?

[Joe Fo Sho]

I read that the Browns would have taken Sammy at number 4 had the Bills not traded up. He was projected to go where we took him.

Should have let them have him.


And like I said, the Bills made up for their lack of a first round pick in other ways this year, namely through free agency and trade. IMO, this all equals itself out at least.

This is just making an excuse for overpaying for Sammy. We could have had the same free agency and still had a 1st round pick this year. Wouldn't that be better?


I swear that a lot of folks think that the draft ends after the first round, and that first round pick should always be a guaranteed winner. You can see how little talk there is about the draft this year in Bills-land, which is coming right up shortly. Almost feels like there isn't a draft at all from the way people are ignoring it. Why? Because we don't have a first round pick.

No team is perfect when it comes to first round picks, that's obvious. Statistically speaking, the first round of the draft yields better NFL players. It's that simple.


The only way we could ever be sure whether we overpayed for Sammy would be to know which two players the Bills would have picked otherwize...and we'll never know that.

Very true, but we can speculate. That's what sports message boards are all about...arguing with people you don't know over decisions you have no control over. I assume that we would have taken the next best WR on the board, which could have been Evans (probably not), Odell Beckham Jr, or Kelvin Benjamin. Any of which I would trade Sammy for if we also got a 1st round pick.


I'd rather have Julio Jones than all the picks the Browns spent as a result of THAT trade, I'll say again...and by far. And it cost the Falcons a hell of a lot more to nab Jones. It's all relative, in other words.

These are the players that Cleveland got in exchange for that trade:

WR - Phil Taylor (Used 1st from ATL to trade up a few spots to take Taylor)
WR - Greg Little
FB - Owen Marecic
QB - Brandon Weeden
RB - Trent Richardson (They used the 4th from ATL to help with the trade up to get Richardson)

So yeah, Cleveland got very little in return for that trade but it's mostly because they can't draft for ****. There were several good players available when CLE was picking that they could have had. For example, they could have drafted Cameron Jordan (or Dalton or Kaep), Randall Cobb, Julius Thomas, and Dont'a Hightower. If they would have gotten even one of those players, I think you would be singing a different tune. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and that argument is a 'what if' scenario.

I think if you offer ATL 2 1sts, a 2nd, and 2 4ths for Julio today, they take it. There are very few players in the NFL today that are worth more than that.

[Mace]

So go back to that trade.

Look at all the players the Browns got in that trade.

Would you rather have Julio Jones, or would you rather have all the players the Browns ended up getting through that trade?

Well, you're asking me if I'd rather be the 7-9 Browns or 6-10 Falcons. Which would you rather be ? Probably the Falcons got a better talent and the Browns had more wins, go figure ?

Let's instead look at the Watkins trade. Would you want the 46th ranked receiver in the league over any of the other what, 24 possible 1st round players you could have gotten over 2 years with a good scouting dept ? Why would you think spending for the 46th best receiver with that many picks is a good thing and a fist pumping "yes !".

I honestly don't see what you're thinking in basic results besides hopeful maybes, and you know we often agree so I'm not arguing with you for the sake of it.

[feldspar]

Well, you're asking me if I'd rather be the 7-9 Browns or 6-10 Falcons. Which would you rather be ? Probably the Falcons got a better talent and the Browns had more wins, go figure ?

Let's instead look at the Watkins trade. Would you want the 46th ranked receiver in the league over any of the other what, 24 possible 1st round players you could have gotten over 2 years with a good scouting dept ? Why would you think spending for the 46th best receiver with that many picks is a good thing and a fist pumping "yes !".

I honestly don't see what you're thinking in basic results besides hopeful maybes, and you know we often agree so I'm not arguing with you for the sake of it.

I'm saying look who the Browns got in that trade with the Falcons.

Simple.

[Gilly]

I love the Watkins trade but judging if it was worth it after one year with Orton throwing to him is just plain dumb..

[WagonCircler]

The OP is asinine.

If we drafted Odell Beckham Jr and still had our first round draft choice this year, we could have traded for Sam Bradford.

The Sammy trade was stupid. That's not to say that Sammy isn't a good player, but he may not even be as good as Beckham, and he's certainly not as good as Beckham + Bradford.

[feldspar]

If we drafted Odell Beckham Jr and still had our first round draft choice this year, we could have traded for Sam Bradford.

I don't think that's true.

Reports are that the Browns were trying to trade for Bradford. Not only did the Browns have our #19 pick to offer, but they also had the #12 overall pick as well.

It would have been nice IMO, but I just don't think it would have happened. I wouldn't imagine that the Rams would just trade away Bradford and leave themselves with nothing at QB. That was a pipe-dream, one that I actively partook in too.

I still don't fully understand the Foles/Bradford trade, but that will be one of the more interesting story-lines to follow this year.

[YardRat]

The only picks that really count for comparison are last year's #9, this year's #19, and this year's #115.

[Mace]

I'm saying look who the Browns got in that trade with the Falcons.

Simple.

Ok, I'll be as simple. I'd rather be the team that won more games, so I guess that's Cleveland.

Just as simple, you'd rather be the team that won less ?

Sort of doesn't really mean a crap who you get for what if you can't use it and win less games anyway now does it ?

[Mace]

The OP is asinine.

If we drafted Odell Beckham Jr and still had our first round draft choice this year, we could have traded for Sam Bradford.

The Sammy trade was stupid. That's not to say that Sammy isn't a good player, but he may not even be as good as Beckham, and he's certainly not as good as Beckham + Bradford.

And he's not good enough to be worth two years of number 1 draft picks as the 46th ranked receiver in catches, tied with Woods by the way and behind Fred Jackson, who cost a couple fewer number 1's unfortunately.

[better days]

These are the players that Cleveland got in exchange for that trade:

WR - Phil Taylor (Used 1st from ATL to trade up a few spots to take Taylor)
WR - Greg Little
FB - Owen Marecic
QB - Brandon Weeden
RB - Trent Richardson (They used the 4th from ATL to help with the trade up to get Richardson)

So yeah, Cleveland got very little in return for that trade but it's mostly because they can't draft for ****. There were several good players available when CLE was picking that they could have had. For example, they could have drafted Cameron Jordan (or Dalton or Kaep), Randall Cobb, Julius Thomas, and Dont'a Hightower. If they would have gotten even one of those players, I think you would be singing a different tune. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 and that argument is a 'what if' scenario.

I think if you offer ATL 2 1sts, a 2nd, and 2 4ths for Julio today, they take it. There are very few players in the NFL today that are worth more than that.

Could have, should have.

The Bills could/should have drafted Tom Brady & Brett Favre. But they didn't.

So today, who is offering anything for what the Browns did get in that trade?

I think Atlanta is still happy to have Jones.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Dez Bryant was franchise tagged (non-exclusive) this year. This means that any team can sign him to a contract and give up 2 1st round picks to get him. Why has nobody done this? Maybe it's because Dez isn't worth 2 1st round picks? Dez is a better receiver than Sammy, right?

Demaryius Thomas was also franchised, no team is signing him either.

When is the last time an NFL team (other than the team who tagged the player) signed any franchised player, regardless of position? I can't remember one instance. Even 'franchise-able' caliber players are not considered worthy of 2 1st round picks. These are players that have proven themselves to be the top tier of their respective positions. How anyone can say Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks as well as a 4th is beyond me.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Could have, should have.

The Bills could/should have drafted Tom Brady & Brett Favre. But they didn't.

So today, who is offering anything for what the Browns did get in that trade?

I think Atlanta is still happy to have Jones.

If we didn't draft Sammy, would you want to give up 2 1st round picks for Dez? Or Demaryius?

[better days]

Dez Bryant was franchise tagged (non-exclusive) this year. This means that any team can sign him to a contract and give up 2 1st round picks to get him. Why has nobody done this? Maybe it's because Dez isn't worth 2 1st round picks? Dez is a better receiver than Sammy, right?

Demaryius Thomas was also franchised, no team is signing him either.

When is the last time an NFL team (other than the team who tagged the player) signed any franchised player, regardless of position? I can't remember one instance. Even 'franchise-able' caliber players are not considered worthy of 2 1st round picks. These are players that have proven themselves to be the top tier of their respective positions. How anyone can say Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks as well as a 4th is beyond me.

I don't think the draft picks is the reason teams don't want to sign Dez.

It is the fact Dez is an AHOLE with off field issues & he will want a LOT of money to sign with another team.

Hell even the Cowboys don't want to give Dez a long term contract & that is why he was tagged.

[better days]

If we didn't draft Sammy, would you want to give up 2 1st round picks for Dez? Or Demaryius?

No because you would also have to pay out a lot of money in that process.

The Bills have Sammy tied up on a low money contract for 5 years.

[Joe Fo Sho]

I don't think the draft picks is the reason teams don't want to sign Dez.

It is the fact Dez is an AHOLE with off field issues & he will want a LOT of money to sign with another team.

Hell even the Cowboys don't want to give Dez a long term contract & that is why he was tagged.

There have been plenty of respectable WRs who've been franchise tagged and not signed to contracts by other teams, like Demaryius.

[feldspar]

Ok, I'll be as simple. I'd rather be the team that won more games, so I guess that's Cleveland.

Just as simple, you'd rather be the team that won less ?

Sort of doesn't really mean a crap who you get for what if you can't use it and win less games anyway now does it ?
The Browns didn't win more games a result of the picks they got in return for The Julio Jones trade-up. That had absolutely nothing to do with it.

I'd MUCH rather have Julio Jones than all the players the Browns got, and so would anybody else that looks at it.

It's a very simple true point, but one that you don't want to allow me to make for some reason. Don't know why you want to harp on about something completely unrelated instead of just conceding my rather simple point. Anyway the Falcons went 13-3, and made it to the Championship game in Jones' second year...he had a killer game too. I think he had about 180 yards receiving in that game where the Falcons almost made it to the Super Bowl.

[Joe Fo Sho]

No because you would also have to pay out a lot of money in that process.

The Bills have Sammy tied up on a low money contract for 5 years.

It's only low money for 4 years.

Wouldn't it be awesome to only have used 1 1st round pick on a young probowl caliber WR? Like the Cowboys did with Dez, or the Broncos did with Demaryius, or the Lions with Calvin, or Packers with Jordy or Cobb, or the Bucs with Evans, or the Giants with Beckham, or the Panthers with Benjamin, or blah blah with blah.

[Joe Fo Sho]

The Browns didn't win more games a result of the picks they got in return for The Julio Jones trade-up. That had absolutely nothing to do with it.

I'd MUCH rather have Julio Jones than all the players the Browns got, and so would anybody else that looks at it.

It's a very simple true point, but one that you don't want to allow me to make for some reason. Don't know why you want to harp on about something completely unrelated instead of just conceding my rather simple point. Anyway the Falcons went 13-3, and made it to the Championship game in Jones' second year...he had a killer game too. I think he had about 180 yards receiving in that game where the Falcons almost made it to the Super Bowl.

Pretty cool what can happen with a great WR when you have a probowl QB throwing him the ball. Kind of makes you wonder if you should try to get one before spending extra resources to get the other, no?

[feldspar]

Pretty cool what can happen with a great WR when you have a probowl QB throwing him the ball. Kind of makes you wonder if you should try to get one before spending extra resources to get the other, no?

Technically, Matt Cassel is a Probowl quarterback. He played in one.

It's not so easy to find an All-Pro QB due to supply and demand. We weren't going to get a QB with what we gave up for Sammy, anyway, which is what this thread is about. I'm not going to sit here and whine about that trade. I'm glad Watkins is on the team. He's bound to make whoever plays QB better.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Technically, Matt Cassel is a Probowl quarterback. He played in one.

The 2010 probowl isn't really relevant today, but I can see the flaw you pointed out with my statement. However, Cassel wasn't on this team when we traded for Sammy, and he still hasn't played a down for us and there's a small possibility that he never will.


It's not so easy to find an All-Pro QB due to supply and demand. We weren't going to get a QB with what we gave up for Sammy, anyway, which is what this thread is about.

This thread is about the ridiculous premise that we'd draft a QB with the 19th pick that we would have had. My original point was that there are other ways we could have improved this team besides a QB at 19.


I'm not going to sit here and whine about that trade.

So you're just going to whine about the people whining then?


I'm glad Watkins is on the team.

So am I.

[better days]

There have been plenty of respectable WRs who've been franchise tagged and not signed to contracts by other teams, like Demaryius.

Because Thomas wants more money than he is worth.

Which proves the point, Sammy was worth the two first rnd picks because the Bills have him on the cheap for 5 years.

[better days]

It's only low money for 4 years.

Wouldn't it be awesome to only have used 1 1st round pick on a young probowl caliber WR? Like the Cowboys did with Dez, or the Broncos did with Demaryius, or the Lions with Calvin, or Packers with Jordy or Cobb, or the Bucs with Evans, or the Giants with Beckham, or the Panthers with Benjamin, or blah blah with blah.

Yes it would be awesome if the Bills could have gotten Sammy with only one first rnd pick. But that was not going to happen.

So it is awesome Sammy is a Bill even though it cost two first rnd picks IMO.

If the Bills did not make that trade for Sammy, the Bills would now have Eric Ebron & the #19 pick in this draft.

I would rather have Sammy.

And it is a low cost contract for the full 5 years in comparison to what Sammy would make in year 5 if the Bills did not have the option for that 5th year.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

There have been plenty of respectable WRs who've been franchise tagged and not signed to contracts by other teams, like Demaryius.

Unless you jack Thomas' year 1 cap hit through the roof, you couldn't get him. Denver has over $20 million in potential cap savings next year just from Manning retiring and cutting Ware.

[swiper]

The 2010 Pro Bowl isn't relevant to today? LOL.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Because Thomas wants more money than he is worth.

Which proves the point, Sammy was worth the two first rnd picks because the Bills have him on the cheap for 5 years.

Ok, Ralph.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Yes it would be awesome if the Bills could have gotten Sammy with only one first rnd pick. But that was not going to happen.

Then so be it.


If the Bills did not make that trade for Sammy, the Bills would now have Eric Ebron & the #19 pick in this draft.

Pure speculation.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Unless you jack Thomas' year 1 cap hit through the roof, you couldn't get him. Denver has over $20 million in potential cap savings next year just from Manning retiring and cutting Ware.

The point is that no other team is willing to give up 2 1sts for Demaryius, not just the Bills. If Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks and a 4th, why is Demaryius Thomas not worth 2 1sts? Probably because receivers aren't worth 2 1st round draft picks.

How many 1st round picks did Seattle use on their WRs who played in the Super Bowl last year? What about New England?

[Joe Fo Sho]

The 2010 Pro Bowl isn't relevant to today? LOL.

We don't have the 2010 Matt Cassel on our team, do we?

[swiper]

Maybe

[better days]

Then so be it.



Pure speculation.

It was reported that Ebron would have been the Bills pick if the trade for Sammy did not happen.

So be it the Bills don't have the #19 pick in this draft. They have Sammy instead.

[Joe Fo Sho]

It was reported that Ebron would have been the Bills pick if the trade for Sammy did not happen.

Speculation.

[better days]

The point is that no other team is willing to give up 2 1sts for Demaryius, not just the Bills. If Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks and a 4th, why is Demaryius Thomas not worth 2 1sts? Probably because receivers aren't worth 2 1st round draft picks.

How many 1st round picks did Seattle use on their WRs who played in the Super Bowl last year? What about New England?

Again, it is not just about the draft picks to sign a tagged player.

It not only involves draft picks but also a LOT of money. And you are signing a player with 4 or 5 years of NFL wear & tear on his body.

And the Seahawks traded a first rnd pick for Percy Harvin who helped them WIN the Super Bowl in 2013 & is now a Buffalo Bill.

[better days]

Speculation.

LMAO at you with the speculation.

The guy that speculated about the players the Browns COULD have drafted.

[Joe Fo Sho]

LMAO at you with the speculation.

The guy that speculated about the players the Browns COULD have drafted.

Did you read my argument? I called my point BS at the end, because it's entirely speculative. Except the part where I said that the Browns suck at drafting.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Again, it is not just about the draft picks to sign a tagged player.

It not only involves draft picks but also a LOT of money. And you are signing a player with 4 or 5 years of NFL wear & tear on his body.

If you're worried about spending money, then you shouldn't draft superstars to begin with. Ya know, because you're eventually going to have to pay them. What a terrible thing to have to do.

Do you not want to pay Sammy after his rookie deal? I mean, he is going to be 26 years old with all of that wear and tear on his body.


And the Seahawks traded a first rnd pick for Percy Harvin who helped them WIN the Super Bowl in 2013 & is now a Buffalo Bill.

Ah, an even worse trade than we made for Sammy. That makes me feel a little better, knowing that teams make worse trades than we do.

[better days]

If you're worried about spending money, then you shouldn't draft superstars to begin with. Ya know, because you're eventually going to have to pay them. What a terrible thing to have to do.

Do you not want to pay Sammy after his rookie deal? I mean, he is going to be 26 years old with all of that wear and tear on his body.



Ah, an even worse trade than we made for Sammy. That makes me feel a little better, knowing that teams make worse trades than we do.

Polian has said a Free agent hurts the team he is leaving more than he helps the team he goes to in most cases.

Money is better spent resigning your own stars...if you have them to sign.

I think everyone is happy about resigning Hughes while a number of people have complained about the money the Bills paid Clay.

I would love to see every player the Bills draft become a STAR. And then have them resign him after his rookie contract is over.

But I think most people would agree, it is foolish to invest BOTH a first rnd draft pick and HUGE MONEY on a Free Agent....unless that Free Agent is an ELITE FRANCHISE QB.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Polian has said a Free agent hurts the team he is leaving more than he helps the team he goes to in most cases.

All hail Bill Polian.


Money is better spent resigning your own stars...if you have them to sign.

I think everyone is happy about resigning Hughes while a number of people have complained about the money the Bills paid Clay.

Every player is its own special case, you can't make generalizations like this. I'm sure some people are upset we resigned Hughes and didn't spend the money on O-Line instead.

We signed Fletcher and Takeo as free agents. Would either one of these signings be worse than if we had re-signed Paul Posluszny?

Every case is different, you can find examples for and against signing free agents. That usually means it's not a cut and dry case.


I would love to see every player the Bills draft become a STAR. And then have them resign him after his rookie contract is over.

But if everyone we draft is a star, your plan would be to let every single player walk when their contract is up as there would be another drafted 'star in the making' waiting right behind him. As the new player would be 'on the cheap,' you would want to let the 26 year old STAR walk because of the years and years of wear and tear on his decrepit body.


But I think most people would agree, it is foolish to invest BOTH a first rnd draft pick and HUGE MONEY on a Free Agent....unless that Free Agent is an ELITE FRANCHISE QB.

But it's not foolish to invest 2 1st round picks on an unknown position player when we don't have a capable QB to get him the ball?

Hating the price of Sammy Watkins does not mean you have to hate Sammy Watkins. I am a big Sammy Watkins fan, I just hate how we acquired him.

[better days]

All hail Bill Polian.



Every player is its own special case, you can't make generalizations like this. I'm sure some people are upset we resigned Hughes and didn't spend the money on O-Line instead.

We signed Fletcher and Takeo as free agents. Would either one of these signings be worse than if we had re-signed Paul Posluszny?

Every case is different, you can find examples for and against signing free agents. That usually means it's not a cut and dry case.



But if everyone we draft is a star, your plan would be to let every single player walk when their contract is up as there would be another drafted 'star in the making' waiting right behind him. As the new player would be 'on the cheap,' you would want to let the 26 year old STAR walk because of the years and years of wear and tear on his decrepit body.



But it's not foolish to invest 2 1st round picks on an unknown position player when we don't have a capable QB to get him the ball?

Hating the price of Sammy Watkins does not mean you have to hate Sammy Watkins. I am a big Sammy Watkins fan, I just hate how we acquired him.

Would be great if every player drafted is a star, but we know that is not the case.

But the Bills were able to trade Kiko because other players they drafted made Kiko expendable in a trade.

So if every player they did draft became a star, trade that player like they traded Kiko & get something in return rather than let a star player walk for nothing.

And I don't think anybody is happy the Bills had to give up so much to get Sammy, but a #19 pick is much more palatable than a top 10 pick which some people on this board expected it to be.