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HHURRICANE
05-03-2015, 10:08 AM
Now that the off-season and draft is complete its safe to say that Matt Cassel will be leading this team. The Pegulas, Whaley, and Ryan know this a playoff year and the fans expect nothing less.

The veteran, with experience leading a team to the playoffs and a pro bowl under his belt, is the only choice that makes sense.

You guys can pontificate all you want on EJ's potential but this staff is going to go with the guy that can get them to the promised land.

Buy your Cassel jersey now.

Meathead
05-03-2015, 10:18 AM
sounds pretty unsafe to say to me

Yasgur's Farm
05-03-2015, 10:21 AM
Sorry... Nah... It's a competition and EJ has just as good of an opportunity as Cassel. This offense will be built for options... And EJ offers more options than Cassel.

If Cassel wins the competition than he will be my QB. Until that happens, I'm for EJ for the sake of our future.

Night Train
05-03-2015, 10:21 AM
Is he a hugger ? How's his hygiene ?

Ginger Vitis
05-03-2015, 10:22 AM
I accepted that Cassel would be the starter the day the bills traded for him

YardRat
05-03-2015, 10:28 AM
It's an uphill battle for EJ, that's for sure. He's going to have to blow some doors off or inherit the job due to injury to be the starter on opening day.

baalworship
05-03-2015, 11:26 AM
My head says Cassel, my heart hopes for EJ. EJ winning the job would be better than having a first round pick this year as it means we have a chance there and that the light came on for him.

cookie G
05-03-2015, 11:28 AM
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Sorry...I watched Cassel more than enough in KC.

Novacane
05-03-2015, 11:29 AM
If Cassel ends up the starter I hope it's because he looks good in PS not because EJ looks like ****.

Albany,n.y.
05-03-2015, 12:15 PM
Tyrod

sudzy
05-03-2015, 12:21 PM
Is he a hugger ? How's his hygiene ?

It looked like a hugger at the Kentucky Derby. And there are rumors Matt is an Old Spice man.

Bill Cody
05-03-2015, 01:10 PM
Cassell is a back up. Like Orton. 8-8 if he's the starter

Dr. Who
05-03-2015, 03:14 PM
Cassell is a back up. Like Orton. 8-8 if he's the starter

Yes, I think he's a backup. Few backups have the kind of talent we now have at the skill positions.
Add in a top five defense and I would not be so certain 8 - 8 is the ceiling.
That said, I still think EJ has the best chance to emerge, though unlike the many who are sure he will not improve, I do not claim to know what will happen.

Meathead
05-03-2015, 03:28 PM
the only real questions at qb are what do you have in ej and tyrod. you already know that in cassel and there is probably not going to be an upside with him. the only way to find out about the other two is to play them in games that matter. ej started with more potential, and cost way more. thats why it will be ej. cassel is the insurance, and tyrod is the catastrophe rider

BertSquirtgum
05-03-2015, 03:50 PM
Now that the off-season and draft is complete its safe to say that Matt Cassel will be leading this team. The Pegulas, Whaley, and Ryan know this a playoff year and the fans expect nothing less.

The veteran, with experience leading a team to the playoffs and a pro bowl under his belt, is the only choice that makes sense.

You guys can pontificate all you want on EJ's potential but this staff is going to go with the guy that can get them to the promised land.

Buy your Cassel jersey now.

And he should be penciled in as the starter at the start of training camp. Unless Manuel Ejaculation comes out of his shell I don't see any chance of him starting again. Unless there is an injury. I haven't see any of TT's play to make an observation or a comment.

Buffalogic
05-03-2015, 04:21 PM
It's obvious cassel is the starter. This clinging to EJ thing is just sad. The guy is a bust just deal with it. Cassel gives us the best chance to win games.

FlyingDutchman
05-04-2015, 11:17 AM
Tyrod Taylor will be the starter

trapezeus
05-04-2015, 11:35 AM
part of me feels EJ's accuracy issues are all in his confidence. in games where he is confident early, he plays relatively well for a player with under 1Y of starts.
When he is rattled, he never completely melts down (a good thing), but he's so inconsistent that it really wears down a d. and to some extent because our d has been good (it's masked the melt down that could have occured on lesser defenses).

If EJ literally just needed one more year of sitting on the bench to get confidence up, he could be the guy. he has to demonstrate that by being consistently better than below average group of QB's on the roster.

if he doesn't do that, our team's success is severely limited to just hoping to get a wildcard and not embarasss themselves in the playoff game.

I really think we have to win with EJ or die with EJ. That's the choice the team has made and fighting his success doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

Historian
05-04-2015, 11:45 AM
I think they start Cassel too, but EJ will get in later in the season. Probably due to injury.

HHURRICANE
05-04-2015, 11:46 AM
part of me feels EJ's accuracy issues are all in his confidence. in games where he is confident early, he plays relatively well for a player with under 1Y of starts.
When he is rattled, he never completely melts down (a good thing), but he's so inconsistent that it really wears down a d. and to some extent because our d has been good (it's masked the melt down that could have occured on lesser defenses).

If EJ literally just needed one more year of sitting on the bench to get confidence up, he could be the guy. he has to demonstrate that by being consistently better than below average group of QB's on the roster.

if he doesn't do that, our team's success is severely limited to just hoping to get a wildcard and not embarasss themselves in the playoff game.

I really think we have to win with EJ or die with EJ. That's the choice the team has made and fighting his success doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

If this kid could throw a simple screen pass I might feel like above. He can't. In addition he threw some ball that almost got some of our receivers killed.

EDS
05-04-2015, 11:52 AM
I would be surprised if Cassel is not the starter to begin the season.

Bill Cody
05-04-2015, 11:59 AM
Buy your Cassel jersey now.

Thanks for the tip but I think I'll hold off on the jersey

better days
05-04-2015, 01:11 PM
Now that the off-season and draft is complete its safe to say that Matt Cassel will be leading this team. The Pegulas, Whaley, and Ryan know this a playoff year and the fans expect nothing less.

The veteran, with experience leading a team to the playoffs and a pro bowl under his belt, is the only choice that makes sense.

You guys can pontificate all you want on EJ's potential but this staff is going to go with the guy that can get them to the promised land.

Buy your Cassel jersey now.

Well, I will embrace Cassel if he wins the starers job.

I doubt Cassel will EMBARRASS himself like Orton did last year, sliding SHORT of the first down with NOBODY near him, ending an important drive late in a game.

BertSquirtgum
05-04-2015, 01:40 PM
Porn

http://www.thekickisgood.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/casselmustache.jpg

cookie G
05-04-2015, 01:50 PM
If this kid could throw a simple screen pass I might feel like above. He can't. In addition he threw some ball that almost got some of our receivers killed.

Cassel throws an excellent screen pass...

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Note the hat fail on the bench.

jimmifli
05-04-2015, 01:59 PM
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Matt-Cassel-Celebration-Fail.gif

trapezeus
05-04-2015, 03:34 PM
If this kid could throw a simple screen pass I might feel like above. He can't. In addition he threw some ball that almost got some of our receivers killed.

This is what you get when you get a project. the same would have been true if we had bryce petty or another project qb.

he can't play like he has, but i don't think he has the lack of mental capacity (Losman) or the lack of desire (Edwards) or lack of skill (fitz). Therefore, going into year 3, there is simply no way you can't root for him.

i think the accuracy issues have been huge. the long ball is non existent, but we also don't know how much he was hampered by a brain dead offense the last 2 years. it was an offense where kyle orton elected to just sit down and take sacks. had orton come in and blown the roof off the place, you'd be hard pressed to give ej a pass.

but so far, i see him as essentially a .500 qb. makes him very good back up option at the very least. This is according to whaley's metric of what a backup needs to do. Obviously a starter has to be better than that. And it seems like the bills are trying very hard to make it easy to do that with multiple catching TE, a FB and WR's that pose match up problems.

They aren't sending him into a season with zero weapons.

notacon
05-04-2015, 05:36 PM
Cassel brings only a slightly better chance of getting the Bills in the playoffs than EJ.

This is a Rex Ryan team now. The reliance on the QB is much lower. Cassel does not excite me in the least. Ej doesn't either. The Bills have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL.

gr8slayer
05-04-2015, 05:48 PM
I don't doubt that he'll start the pre-season as the starter, but I think that Manuel will ultimately become "the guy"... as he should.

FlyingDutchman
08-31-2015, 10:48 AM
ahem

HHURRICANE
08-31-2015, 10:53 AM
I stand by my thread. Anything could happen in two weeks. :couch:

All kidding aside, and after watching Tyrod, I'm happy to be wrong!

Mr. Miyagi
08-31-2015, 02:43 PM
Cassel is the epitome of the Buffalo Bills of the GW/Mularkey/Jauron/Marrone era, playing not to lose.

Let's go for broke this time.

Night Train
08-31-2015, 03:53 PM
If we throw enough darts, we hit some and miss badly on others.

Why wait to let things play out when we can instruct everyone what we know in advance ? :rolleyes:

ublinkwescore
08-31-2015, 04:21 PM
Cassel brings only a slightly better chance of getting the Bills in the playoffs than EJ.

This is a Rex Ryan team now. The reliance on the QB is much lower. Cassel does not excite me in the least. Ej doesn't either. The Bills have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL.

I think we will need to come back to this quote around say January?

HHURRICANE
08-31-2015, 08:06 PM
If we throw enough darts, we hit some and miss badly on others.

Why wait to let things play out when we can instruct everyone what we know in advance ? :rolleyes:

Yes like your inside info on Cassel getting the job!