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BertSquirtgum
05-03-2015, 02:57 PM
Say this on BBMB. Intriguing to say the least.

http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/could-the-buffalo-bills-revert-rb-karlos-williams-to-play-safety/

Yesterday, when the Buffalo Bills (http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/category/nfl-team-pages/buffalo-bills/) selected Karlos Williams the running back/former defensive back from the Florida State Seminoles, many fans were upset. They could not believe why Williams was selected when the Bills had LeSean McCoy, Fred Jackson, Bryce Brown and Anthony Dixon in their backfield. Don’t discredit the Buffalo Bills scouting just yet…..
Could the Bills revert Karlos Williams back to safety? Karlos Williams was projected as a defensive star when he arrived at Florida State as the No. 5 overall recruit in the nation in 2011.
Williams’ high-water mark on defense came in an emergency stint at linebacker in his sophomore year during the ACC championship game, in which he made 11 tackles and secured a game-clinching interception. He’s also starred as a kick returner.
It sounds like the Bills can use Williams in a rack of different positions, but right now they need a safety and Williams brings the tenacity that Rex Ryan loves.
Think about it Bills fans, let a player play his natural position. I remember him being a very hard hitting safety at FSU.

Jry44
05-03-2015, 03:11 PM
FSU has had some serious talent at the RB position the last few years. I don't think they would move him from SS if he were an NFL caliber player at that position.

Being a 5th round pick, he's a long shot to even make the roster at eitehr position. Drafting him just gives a the staff a longer look at the kid.

YardRat
05-03-2015, 03:11 PM
Others have already pointed out the possibility around here.

If we were looking for a safety, we should have drafted a safety...

The Jokeman
05-03-2015, 03:17 PM
At the very least Karlos Williams should be a solid ST player. As he already knows what it takes to be a return man and being he's played on the defensive side of the ball he also looks like he could be a solid coverage guy. By 2016 he could be backing up McCoy with Fred Jackson on his last legs and Bryce's Brown contract down after this coming season. Toss in as good as Boobie was at times last year he proved he can't carry the load himself when called upon.

Meathead
05-03-2015, 03:22 PM
how about running back slash safety

it would never work but how cool would that be. who was the last both sides player? neon deon is prolly the most famous example. anybody recently?

Skooby
05-03-2015, 03:30 PM
How about a good blocking running back ??

John Doe
05-03-2015, 03:34 PM
how about running back slash safety

it would never work but how cool would that be. who was the last both sides player? neon deon is prolly the most famous example. anybody recently?

I remember when the Colts drafted Mike Curtis in the first round as a fullback. He played special teams the first year and I think it was in his second year that they converted hime to linebacker where he excelled.

drummernut745
05-03-2015, 03:51 PM
Richard Sherman was drafted in the 5th round as a wide receiver

kscdogbillsfan1221
05-03-2015, 03:53 PM
Richard Sherman was drafted in the 5th round as a wide receiver

are you sure? i don't think that's true. i thought he made the change to the defensive side of the ball while at stand ford

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are you sure? i don't think that's true. i thought he made the change to the defensive side of the ball while at stand ford

Stanford
stupid auto correct

Meathead
05-03-2015, 04:07 PM
yeah but i mean a real both sides player. its super tough close to impossible in the nfl cuz those guys study so much just to get a 0.1% advantage that you cant possibly learn two full positions. you gotta be super physically gifted, like deion. even he only really did it one season when he was a wr/db, but he returned kicks almost the whole time. wasnt jj watt running te patterns recently? maybe that was preseason idk

IlluminatusUIUC
05-03-2015, 04:14 PM
I think Buffalo is the first team ever to use their 5th round pick to replace their 4th round pick from the same draft.

Beebe
05-03-2015, 04:29 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hRHivnMdpL4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> GOOD PLAYER

psubills62
05-03-2015, 04:46 PM
I asked some FSU guys why he moved from S to RB. Figured if they had a need at RB, injuries, whatever, then he might work at S. They said he didn't have the instincts for S at all, though he looked decent at LB during the time he played there. TIFWIW

Jan Reimers
05-03-2015, 04:54 PM
I think they picked him because they felt he might be as good or better at RB than Brown and Dixon, and is a very good Special Teamer. He is pretty big and slow for a safety, more the size of a Linebacker. But I really don't see him moving to defense.

Night Train
05-03-2015, 05:20 PM
That's some pretty good film as a Safety/LB. 2 way role player ?

Mace
05-03-2015, 05:21 PM
FSU has had some serious talent at the RB position the last few years. I don't think they would move him from SS if he were an NFL caliber player at that position.

Being a 5th round pick, he's a long shot to even make the roster at eitehr position. Drafting him just gives a the staff a longer look at the kid.

Read somewhere he lost his job last season to a freshman and didn't seem to care much.

In sunshine/lollipops land, he gets the motivation back and works, recognizing his opportunity, paying attention to Jackson. He loves contact running between the tackles, decent blocker, so he gains another 10 lbs of pro weight training and becomes a pile driving Jackson with the extra 25 lbs Jackson played like he had but didn't.

In practical land, he's special teams cannon fodder with a chance to impress some people and hammer out a career.

In always raining land, he brings his "C" game to camp, aggravates one too many people and he's given a quick boot. Belichick grabs him and he runs for 400 yards against us in the two game we play them, an unstoppable force of Belichick motivated nature.

I don't realistically think much happens with him, but I always lusted for the Bills to have another big mean contact runner, so I want to believe.

Mahdi
05-04-2015, 09:21 AM
One thing I thought Rex would do in this draft is get a S/LB hybrid player that he could use near the LoS to fit his 46 defense.

Looking at the draft prospects there was no safety coming out with that description. Not even many safeties that had the size to play that spot.

Wouldn't surprise me if Karlos Williams was brought in for that.

He's 6' 1" 230 LBS. Has 33" arms and pretty big hands. He also ran a 4.48. I think he fits the mold of a 46 safety perfectly.

emoulds80
05-04-2015, 09:30 AM
hes a rb. anyone thats seen the tape can obviously see his size, power and legit breakaway speed which is very rare for a man that size. as far as raw talent, he looks like fred taylor, who was also a size/speed freak. i loved the pick personally and think he can challenge for actual time as a rookie behind mccoy

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like a previous poster said, if we wanted a s, we would have drafted one

Mahdi
05-04-2015, 09:45 AM
hes a rb. anyone thats seen the tape can obviously see his size, power and legit breakaway speed which is very rare for a man that size. as far as raw talent, he looks like fred taylor, who was also a size/speed freak. i loved the pick personally and think he can challenge for actual time as a rookie behind mccoy

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like a previous poster said, if we wanted a s, we would have drafted one

I also think he would be a solid RB behind McCoy. But wouldn't be surprised if he was brought in for safety. Safety pool was not good this year and like I said no real Rex type guy was coming out.

ghz in pittsburgh
05-04-2015, 09:55 AM
He's running back, period.

Like emoulds80 said, raw talent, speed and power for his size, is why the Bills drafted him. Lack of vision, change position in college, and off field issues drops him to 5th. But his one cut and then exploding full speed to a perceived hole not shy of contact style meets what Roman and Rex are looking for to a T. I don't believe he has the kind of balance Marshawn Lynch or even Travis Henry.

Meathead
05-04-2015, 10:02 AM
thanks freddie. you were awesome. go gracefully

MillsapsBillsFan
05-04-2015, 10:14 AM
I wouldnt be shocked to see him moved to saftey, he was the #1 rated safety coming out of highschool. I think RB will probably end up being where he stays but I wouldnt be surprised at all if they at least give him a shot on the other side of the ball.

HHURRICANE
05-04-2015, 11:29 AM
Say this on BBMB. Intriguing to say the least.

http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/could-the-buffalo-bills-revert-rb-karlos-williams-to-play-safety/

Yesterday, when the Buffalo Bills (http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/category/nfl-team-pages/buffalo-bills/) selected Karlos Williams the running back/former defensive back from the Florida State Seminoles, many fans were upset. They could not believe why Williams was selected when the Bills had LeSean McCoy, Fred Jackson, Bryce Brown and Anthony Dixon in their backfield. Don’t discredit the Buffalo Bills scouting just yet…..
Could the Bills revert Karlos Williams back to safety? Karlos Williams was projected as a defensive star when he arrived at Florida State as the No. 5 overall recruit in the nation in 2011.
Williams’ high-water mark on defense came in an emergency stint at linebacker in his sophomore year during the ACC championship game, in which he made 11 tackles and secured a game-clinching interception. He’s also starred as a kick returner.
It sounds like the Bills can use Williams in a rack of different positions, but right now they need a safety and Williams brings the tenacity that Rex Ryan loves.
Think about it Bills fans, let a player play his natural position. I remember him being a very hard hitting safety at FSU.






Hey they must read BILLSZONE because I already had posted this idea....

BertSquirtgum
05-04-2015, 11:41 AM
Hey they must read BILLSZONE because I already had posted this idea....

No

Bill Cody
05-04-2015, 12:50 PM
This kid has questionable character, attitude and work ethic. He's going to need to turn all that around to even make the roster, the odds of which are no better than 50/50 maybe less. The idea that he's going to switch back to defense seems far fetched to me. As it is I think we took him a round early based on the red flags. If we didn't see him as a RB I'd see him more as a 7th rounder or UFA.

POTLAND PSILBYLO
05-04-2015, 03:53 PM
how about running back slash safety

it would never work but how cool would that be. who was the last both sides player? neon deon is prolly the most famous example. anybody recently?
Michael Sam

The last buffalo fan
05-04-2015, 04:32 PM
Michael Sam

:spit:

Night Train
05-04-2015, 04:44 PM
This kid has questionable character, attitude and work ethic. He's going to need to turn all that around to even make the roster, the odds of which are no better than 50/50 maybe less. The idea that he's going to switch back to defense seems far fetched to me. As it is I think we took him a round early based on the red flags. If we didn't see him as a RB I'd see him more as a 7th rounder or UFA.

Whaley pointed out his ST ability. In the meantime, develop him.

No way they are cutting him unless some off-field incident comes up.

Mr. Cynical
05-04-2015, 05:31 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hRHivnMdpL4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> GOOD PLAYER

Ok, never saw him play and now I'm sold. Try him at S. He has a defensive attitude without question - his body language, aggressiveness, etc., say it all. Hits like a freight train. I can envision him blowing up ST, and working his way into a def rotation. And, maybe, as others have pointed out, be a slash RB. But honestly, again, with the way he moves and his body language, I see D all the way, especially in the mold of Rex's "bully" D philosophy. I'll wager $1 that he goes D if he makes the team.

John Doe
05-04-2015, 08:20 PM
hes a rb. anyone thats seen the tape can obviously see his size, power and legit breakaway speed which is very rare for a man that size. as far as raw talent, he looks like fred taylor, who was also a size/speed freak. i loved the pick personally and think he can challenge for actual time as a rookie behind mccoy

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like a previous poster said, if we wanted a s, we would have drafted one

At first I thought he might have been drafted as a safety, but you are right - after looking at his highlights, it looks like his future is as a runner.

Mr. Pink
05-04-2015, 10:35 PM
His future is at best practice squad.