Vegas obviously thinks the Patriots* punishment is light

[Strongman]

Vegas odds for the Patriots* to win the Super Bowl in 2016 was 6-1 and dropped all the way to 15-2.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/5/11/8584491/super-bowl-nfl-odds-2015-16-season

What a joke!

[CommissarSpartacus]

Obviously, Vegas doesn't believe that the only reason the Pats win are soft balls.

LOL!

A four game suspension and the odds "drop" from 6 - 1 to 7 1/2 - 1.

Money talks, bull**** walks...

[Strongman]

Obviously, Vegas doesn't believe that the only reason the Pats win are soft balls.

LOL!

A four game suspension and the odds "drop" from 6 - 1 to 7 1/2 - 1.

Money talks, bull**** walks...

It was a change that was triggered from the punishment. Try to keep up!

[CommissarSpartacus]

It was a change that was triggered from the punishment. Try to keep up!

That's what I said. The "punishment" resulted in a miniscule movement from 6 - 1 to 7 1/2 to one.

Obviously, Vegas isn't impressed.

[Gilly]

Vegas doesn't think one way or another..

It is all based on how the betting money comes in...

So its the people betting on the pats who think the punishment doesn't matter much which it doesn't..

[Strongman]

Vegas doesn't think one way or another..

It is all based on how the betting money comes in...

So its the people betting on the pats who think the punishment doesn't matter much which it doesn't..

True. However, it's easier and customary though to simplify it and just say Vegas thinks or Vegas likes...

[Gilly]

True. However, it easier and customary though to simplify it and just say Vegas thinks or Vegas likes...

Oops, my bad. Understand how you meant it now..

[CommissarSpartacus]

Vegas doesn't think one way or another..

It is all based on how the betting money comes in...

So its the people betting on the pats who think the punishment doesn't matter much which it doesn't..

Vegas is a metaphor for the betting industry.

Of course a place in the desert doesn't think one way or another...

[better days]

Vegas is a metaphor for the betting industry.

Of course a place in the desert doesn't think one way or another...

Since Goodell has always been in Kraft's pocket, I expect him to reduce the penalty to two games or less after the appeal.

But if the suspension stands at 4 games you can expect a huge move in that line.

[trapezeus]

vegas also notes the outlier home performance. it's clearly not just deflated footballs. its all the cheating they do and the lack of disclosure they provide around it.

they know belichick is the key to keeping the system. now that he's off scott free, why change the odds. him and ernie adams will keep calling illegal substitutions, steal play calls, and dial in the playcall after the 15 second cut off.

Vegas isn't going to gamble that brady is the key to the whole thing.

[Mr. Pink]

Why would the line move at all, at worst the Pats would go 1-3 during that 4 game stretch and will still end up being 10-6 or better and in the playoffs.

[CommissarSpartacus]

They went undefeated the year after Spygate. They CRUSHED most of their opponents. Wouldn't be surprised if it happens again this year. It's the juiciest bit of bulletin board material ever. They're gonna be breathing fire every game.

And if the Bills can't win the Superbowl this year, I'd love to see what would happen if the Pats won it again.

[Joe Fo Sho]

They went undefeated the year after Spygate.

Right, the year they started deflating footballs.

[trapezeus]

right, they ate teams alive because of bulletin board material. the simpler answer is that their real edge hasn't been curtailed yet.

poor belichick, never getting out from parcell's light. he's just as stupid and weak as his defenders.

[feldspar]

We'll, the Patriots only play FOUR games against teams that made the playoffs last year. That's the first time that's happened in 15 years, where the Super Bowl winners faced a favorable schedule like that.

I still think that it's more probable than not that they make the playoffs in 2015.

[CommissarSpartacus]

We'll, the Patriots only play FOUR games against teams that made the playoffs last year. That's the first time that's happened in 15 years, where the Super Bowl winners faced a favorable schedule like that.

I still think that it's more probable than not that they make the playoffs in 2015.

but six of those 12 games against non playoff teams are the other three teams in their conference, and the only reason the Jets, Dolphins and Bills aren't playoff teams is because the Patriots cheated.

Right?

[feldspar]

but six of those 12 games against non playoff teams are the other three teams in their conference, and the only reason the Jets, Dolphins and Bills aren't playoff teams is because the Patriots cheated.

Right?

I never said that.

But I think it's hilarious when people think that way.

[JohnnyGold]

Vegas is a metaphor for the betting industry.

Of course a place in the desert doesn't think one way or another...

vegas as a metaphor for the betting industry is for people who have no knowledge of the betting industry.

a line is meant to be evocative, in that it invokes you to place a bet.
they are not meant to be indicative, in that you could ever say "this is what the betting public is saying."

that line could be from any book, or an average of any 3 books, or anything else. they might have moved their line to 15:2 based on ONE person making a 500,000$ bet, or they might have changed the line because its may and NO ONE is placing big money NFL bets right now, so theyre trying to draw money from all of the idiotic pats fans who think that brady is innocent who might here 15:2 odds, think its long, and bet big money on new england. *****, for all you know, these casinos might be attempting to goad mark whalberg into placing a million dollar bet on the pats to win the super bowl.

that theory is far closer to the truth than any notion that any person of any importance has sat down and determined brady's suspension to move the needle from 6:1 to 15:2 odds to win a super bowl, as it applies to anything that could ever take place on the football field.

[CommissarSpartacus]

vegas as a metaphor for the betting industry is for people who have no knowledge of the betting industry.


It was a Brady hater that posted the article, not me.

I just pointed out that a move from 6 -1 to 15 - 2 is hardly earthshaking...

[upstart]

Vegas odds for the Patriots* to win the Super Bowl in 2016 was 6-1 and dropped all the way to 15-2.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2015/5/11/8584491/super-bowl-nfl-odds-2015-16-season

What a joke!

It was 8-1 yesterday @ the Luxor.

[DynaPaul]

Belichick and Adams' cheating system is still in place and Brady is a product of it. Why would the Vegas line move much?