Do You Trust Rex's Opinion on the Offensive Side of the Ball?

[SpikedLemonade]

Hey, I love the bravado Rex brings to the Bills. I have 100% faith in his ability to motivate NFL players. I think Rex has an elite defensive mind and will only improve our defense. In many many ways, we are lucky to have Rex.

On the other hand, when it comes to the offense, he was very hands off in NY and the Offensive Coordinators he hired there for the most part failed. Rex's success in NY was pretty much one-sided to the defensive side of the ball. Beyond the early safe conservative offense under Sanchez, the Jets offense was a train wreck. The rookie QBs did not progress much which could be a function of player evaluation or development or both.

If Rex's opinion was limited to the defensive side of the ball, that would be great, but Rex has no shortage of opinions.

Now Rex seems to be in love with Tyrod Taylor who quite frankly has shown nothing in his 4 years in the NFL.

Roman is an experienced OC, but many in San Fran believe it was the HC that was instrumental on the offensive side of the ball and not Roman.

So the question is -- Do You Trust Rex's Opinion on the Offensive Side of the Ball?

[OpIv37]

Here's the deal: we don't know what Rex's opinion of the O is. We only know what he told the media.

He has to motivate players and keep fans interested, so he's going to say good things publicly whether he thinks we are the best O of all time or the worst O of all time.

[better days]

I trust Rex can tell who is a GOOD football player on Offense or Defense.

MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE than Marrone could.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I don't trust Rex's opinion on offense, but I do trust Roman's. He's had his issues in San Francisco, but overall I liked what he was trying to do.

[yordad]

Here's the deal: we don't know what Rex's opinion of the O is. We only know what he told the media.

He has to motivate players and keep fans interested, so he's going to say good things publicly whether he thinks we are the best O of all time or the worst O of all time.I think this is the first OpIv post I ever agreed with. :thumbsup:

[Typ0]

Rex's opinion is about 2% of the puzzle and having an actual quarterback is 96%. The other 2% consists of offensive coaches and the other people on the offensive side of the ball.

[Typ0]

I will follow that up with the "REX RYAN MODEL OF PLAYING WITHOUT A QB" is still ****...but he's proven it can get to the playoffs. So probably he has a viable strategy to play without a QB. However, getting that QB not playing without him is the real objective.

[Buffalogic]

Our team is as good as it gets without a franchise qb. Seattle, San Fran, old Baltimore they weren't held back because of this. There is a chance we won't be either.

[BillsImpossible]

Rex's first move as the Bills head coach was to hire Greg Roman as his OC, a guy who took a running quarterback to the Super Bowl in his rookie season.

Yes.

[Goobylal]

I doubt Rex has much input into the offense. He hired Roman to be the OC and will likely let him run the show.

[YardRat]

Hopefully Rex's only opinion re: the offense is making the decision on Sunday's whether to punt, kick a FG, or go for it.

[Strongman]

I think Rex understands better than most what makes an offense hard for defenses to handle. However, I doubt he really understands the little nuances that go into making a great offense. That's why Roman will run the O.

[Albany,n.y.]

Now Rex seems to be in love with Tyrod Taylor who quite frankly has shown nothing in his 4 years in the NFL.


Because Flacco is durable. You could have said the same thing after Aaron Rodgers 3rd season & been just as correct. All players who don't play have shown nothing, it means nothing until they actually play. If he was a backup to Kyle Orton & never got in a game, showing nothing would be more of an indictment against his abilities.

[Meathead]

not really. but hes admitted it was a weakness in the past and says hes committed to improving on that as a hc so thats encouraging

[SpikedLemonade]

not really. but hes admitted it was a weakness in the past and says hes committed to improving on that as a hc so thats encouraging

I pray he has learned from the past.

[Bill Cody]

Because Flacco is durable. You could have said the same thing after Aaron Rodgers 3rd season & been just as correct. All players who don't play have shown nothing, it means nothing until they actually play. If he was a backup to Kyle Orton & never got in a game, showing nothing would be more of an indictment against his abilities.

I really hate when people try to bolster their argument that some late round pick might be good by bringing up an All Pro. What's next, Tie Rod is the next Brady because they were both 6th rounders? Aaron Rodgers was news on draft day because he was in the green room and he dropped to 25th. He was always well thought of. I'm keeping an open mind but I'm going to need to see a lot in preseason to get my hopes up about Taylor.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Hell no, I just hope he doesn't let that ego of his stop him from letting Roman run the show on O. I love Ryan to death as DC/HC, but ironically I want him to have a relationship similar to that which Buddy Ryan had back in the eighties with Ditka in that Rex would be like Ditka and Roman would be like Buddy in that Rex would have the final say on D and ST, and Roman would have complete freedom on the O.

[swiper]

2014 NY Jets: 4-12

And for the clowns that want to blame that all on Idzik: Ryan was 8-8 in 2011 & 2012 with a roster loaded with talent and a QB better than anything currently on the Bills roster.

He IS NOT a good coach.

Marrone got a less talented team with no QB to 9-7. You idiots all feel butt-hurt because he walked out on you. Maybe HE was the smart one.

Facts are facts.

[Mace]

I trust Rex not at all in offense, and I'm wary of him in game day management.

I trust Roman absolutely in running game offense, he doesn't do passing offense, never has, that was Harbaugh. In pro and college, others do pass offense in his schemes. In this one it's Lee & Lol, er, Lal.

I trust Lee and Lal not at all in pass offense, but we're not going to have one, so maybe they'll be okay or at least minimized.

If the offense goes south I will blame Ryan for needing to bring Jets coaches here on offense.

If the offense is successful I will praise Ryan for his keen eye in assistant hires, Roman for his brilliance, and insist it is in spite of Lee and Lal unless they win a Super Bowl in which case I'll say I guess they were okay.

[BillsImpossible]

2014 NY Jets: 4-12

And for the clowns that want to blame that all on Idzik: Ryan was 8-8 in 2011 & 2012 with a roster loaded with talent and a QB better than anything currently on the Bills roster.

He IS NOT a good coach.

Marrone got a less talented team with no QB to 9-7. You idiots all feel butt-hurt because he walked out on you. Maybe HE was the smart one.

Facts are facts.

After what came out about Doug Marrone being the biggest jerk this side of the Mississippi, you think HE, 'was the smart one?'

I don't think anyone feels butt hurt at all. I feel relieved that Marrone and his insecure ass is gone and will finish his days in NFL Siberia, aka Jacksonville.

How could anyone think that Rex Ryan is not a good football coach? Was Mike Shanahan a good coach without John Elway?

If Marv Levy never had Jim Kelly, would he be in the Hall of Fame? How did Mike Holmgren due without Brett Favre?

Tom Coughlin isn't a good coach either, right?

Why so negative?

[Goobylal]

2014 NY Jets: 4-12

And for the clowns that want to blame that all on Idzik: Ryan was 8-8 in 2011 & 2012 with a roster loaded with talent and a QB better than anything currently on the Bills roster.

He IS NOT a good coach.

Marrone got a less talented team with no QB to 9-7. You idiots all feel butt-hurt because he walked out on you. Maybe HE was the smart one.

Facts are facts.
Sanchez had far and away his best, and only, good season in 2011, but he was erractic and the team won and lost depending on whether he had a good game or not. He's nothing, but despite him, Ryan was able to take the Jets to the AFCCG twice his first 2 years. He's got far more talent now with the Bills.

As for Marrone, I said he was a bum back at the end of 2013. I'm ecstatic he acted like a moron and walked out. Best thing for a franchise on the rise. We won't miss his worthless offense, which was his alleged forte.

[better days]

Sanchez had far and away his best, and only, good season in 2011, but he was erractic and the team won and lost depending on whether he had a good game or not. He's nothing, but despite him, Ryan was able to take the Jets to the AFCCG twice his first 2 years. He's got far more talent now with the Bills.

As for Marrone, I said he was a bum back at the end of 2013. I'm ecstatic he acted like a moron and walked out. Best thing for a franchise on the rise. We won't miss his worthless offense, which was his alleged forte.

And I think ASSWIPER is the only person on this board that feels butt-hurt because Marrone walked.

The rest of us can't believe our good fortune that Marrone left of his own accord.

Facts are facts.

[Goobylal]

And I think ASSWIPER is the only person on this board that feels butt-hurt because Marrone walked.

The rest of us can't believe our good fortune that Marrone left of his own accord.

Facts are facts.
I was actually despondent at the end of the season knowing Marrone would be coming back and nothing would change (like at least firing Hackett). It couldn't have worked out any better and the Bills got the best HC available on the market (the coordinators are totally unproven).

[better days]

I was actually despondent at the end of the season knowing Marrone would be coming back and nothing would change (like at least firing Hackett). It couldn't have worked out any better and the Bills got the best HC available on the market (the coordinators are totally unproven).

At least both coordinators held the same title & position in the past.

Neither has been promoted to a higher position on the Bills than he held before.

[Goobylal]

At least both coordinators held the same title & position in the past.

Neither has been promoted to a higher position on the Bills than he held before.
Sorry, I meant to say that the coordinators who were hired as head coaches by other teams are totally unproven.

[better days]

Sorry, I meant to say that the coordinators who were hired as head coaches by other teams are totally unproven.

And Rex is calling his staff a team of All Stars.

If you compare the Bills Coaches under Rex to other teams Coaches, I don't think many can compare.

[justasportsfan]

I trust Rex's offensive opinion as much as Jaurons.

[JoeMama]

Hey, I love the bravado Rex brings to the Bills. I have 100% faith in his ability to motivate NFL players. I think Rex has an elite defensive mind and will only improve our defense. In many many ways, we are lucky to have Rex.

On the other hand, when it comes to the offense, he was very hands off in NY and the Offensive Coordinators he hired there for the most part failed. Rex's success in NY was pretty much one-sided to the defensive side of the ball. Beyond the early safe conservative offense under Sanchez, the Jets offense was a train wreck. The rookie QBs did not progress much which could be a function of player evaluation or development or both.

If Rex's opinion was limited to the defensive side of the ball, that would be great, but Rex has no shortage of opinions.

Now Rex seems to be in love with Tyrod Taylor who quite frankly has shown nothing in his 4 years in the NFL.

Roman is an experienced OC, but many in San Fran believe it was the HC that was instrumental on the offensive side of the ball and not Roman.

So the question is -- Do You Trust Rex's Opinion on the Offensive Side of the Ball?

No. I do not.

Rex is stacked at every position except the one that matters.

QB.

EJ Manuel can't hit the broad side of a barn even if a magical genie granted him accuracy powers. Which would net him a 40% comp rate.

He's worse than useless. He's second string CFL material.

[JoeMama]

RJ > EJ

[realdealryan]

Yeah, I mean, more than my own opinion.

[SpikedLemonade]

Now it is a 3rd string QB from Rex's mighty 4-12 Jets.

Doug should tell Rex to worry about what is already on the field rather than asking for more Jets retreads.

[feldspar]

Now it is a 3rd string QB from Rex's mighty 4-12 Jets.

Doug should tell Rex to worry about what is already on the field rather than asking for more Jets retreads.

Do you really have your head that far up your ass?

[SpikedLemonade]

Do you really have your head that far up your ass?


GFY

[feldspar]

GFY

Sure.

I too am appalled about how many Jets players have migrated to the Bills thus far.

So far, I can count three off the top of my head, including Matt Simms, who is a long shot to make the team. He's STILL a 3rd-string QB...more like 4th string now, but who can really blame you for being upset, princess?

Can you name two more Former Jets players the Bills have picked up this offseason without your friend Google?