Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

[HHURRICANE]

Just read this on plane.

Will be at mandatory 3 day camp to be evaluated.

[Ed]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

Ryan said, via Mike Rodak of ESPN.com, that Incognito has looked “outstanding” during the team’s offseason practices. Incognito last played for the Dolphins in 2013 before being released amid allegations that he hazed former Dolphins tackle Jonathan Martin.

The Bills also provided an update about the status of one of the other competitors for a guard job. Chris Williams has not been taking part in the team’s offseason program, which led to some criticism from Ryan last month. On Wednesday, General Manager Doug Whaley said that Williams is still recuperating from back surgery — his 2014 season ended after three games because of a back injury — and replied, via the Associated Press, that “backs are tricky” when asked when Williams might be ready.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/10/rex-ryan-richie-incognito-has-looked-outstanding/

It sounds like Rex has been pretty happy so far with Incognito and Miller at OG. I think it's safe to say that they're the favorites to win the two starting spots right now. Urbik provides more versatility as a backup since he can play C along with both OG spots and Richardson is younger and cheaper with more upside. Urbik also took a pay cut to stay with the team reducing his cap hit. Considering Chris Williams has the largest cap hit of these guys, questionable ability, and now back issues, I just don't see him making the team regardless of if he gets healthy or not.

[Guest]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

We will never see Chris Williams in a Bills uniform in a regular season game again.

[Jamiezzz]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

...and I'm ok with that!!

[YardRat]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

Can you say 'injury settlement'? Sure, you can.

[Meathead]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

marrone made a fairly big deal out of getting the guy too iirc. fa bust. thanks doug

[jimmifli]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

marrone made a fairly big deal out of getting the guy too iirc. fa bust. thanks doug

Yeah he was a vet min type guy that somehow got a big deal. The rest of the NFL was like:

[Jake]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

We will never see Chris Williams in a Bills uniform in a regular season game again.

Even if he does come back his days are numbered. This isn't his first back surgery.

[casdhf]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

I think if we cut him his cap number goes up. If that's the case we should IR him and cut him next year.

[better days]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

I think if we cut him his cap number goes up. If that's the case we should IR him and cut him next year.

I don't think he has any guaranteed money coming this year.

If he goes on IR, the Bills will have to pay him his salary for the year.

I expect him to be cut.

[Ed]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

I think if we cut him his cap number goes up. If that's the case we should IR him and cut him next year.

If they cut him they'll save about $2.5 mil in cap space.

[casdhf]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

Cut. Cut now. Cut him.

[X-Era]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

If they cut him they'll save about $2.5 mil in cap space.

Huh? His cap hit is 3.3 and his dead cap if cut is 3.1...

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

[Ed]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

Huh? His cap hit is 3.3 and his dead cap if cut is 3.1...

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

I think that number was for pre-June 1. If you hover over the dead cap number it says "2015 post-June 1: $1,375,00".

I was using the numbers from overthecap.com, which seems pretty reliable, but there is some discrepancy between the two sites. If you look at the link below, they have the dead cap hit at $875k with a cap savings of $2.475 mil. I rounded up to $2.5 mil. So there seems to be a difference of $500k between the two sites, but either way now that we're post-June 1 the Bills will save somewhere between $2-2.5 mil if they cut Williams. My guess is that spotrac.com is counting the $500k roster bonus as dead space where overthecap.com is counting it as savings. Not sure which is right. I guess it depends when the roster bonus was/is due.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

[Guest]

Re: Chris Williams still recovering from back surgery per Whaley...

....Yet one player, guard Chris Williams, hasn't made a single trip to Orchard Park. The excuse given by the team is that he's recuperating from back surgery, but that surgery was more than six months ago. All of Williams' injured teammates have shown up to workouts at one point or another while the veteran guard hasn't even spoken with Ryan.

Maybe the offseason additions of Richie Incognito and John Miller at guard rubbed him the wrong way, but this week Williams can start getting fined for not showing up to practice. He's likely already lost his $100,000 workout bonus and can be fined $10,000 for not showing up Tuesday. He's expected to report....

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/06/percy_harvins_attendance_and_7_things_to_watch_for_at_buffalo_bills_minicamp.html