SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

[JoeMama]

This just popped up on my phone...

When training camp rolls around, many veterans are in danger of losing their jobs to new additions. For some, that's the end of the line, but many earn other shots with teams in need of stopgap players at a position.

Here are a few players that might not be with their current team when the calendar turns to September:

EJ Manuel, QB, Bills

There's a three-player battle for the starting role in Buffalo with Matt Cassel and Tyrod Taylor pushing Manuel for the spot. While it's certainly possible that the team keeps all three players after training camp, if Manuel doesn't win the job, there's a good chance that the Bills will take the opportunity to wash their hands of the 2013 first-round pick.

No quarterback in Buffalo is really safe, especially considering their collective performance in the spring. Cassel's far from the same guy he was when he earned Pro Bowl honors in 2010 and if he doesn't win the job, he has the biggest salary that the Bills could purge themselves of, so he's just as viable of a candidate to be released as Manuel is.

Although Manuel has no ties to the new Rex Ryan regime in Buffalo, he would still be owed $2.8 million in guaranteed salary if the Bills decided to cut the third-year passer.

Possible landing spot: Eagles

The Eagles were said to be a team interested in Manuel before the 2013 NFL Draft and Chip Kelly is far from one afraid to take risks. There are a few big names at quarterback for Philadelphia, but it's a hodgepodge of comeback stories with Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow. Manuel has as good of a shot as any.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/6/2...nuel-tim-tebow

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

Although Manuel has no ties to the new Rex Ryan regime in Buffalo, he would still be owed $2.8 million in guaranteed salary if the Bills decided to cut the third-year passer.

This is the biggest reason why I don't see it happening. What's the harm in keeping this guy on the roster, even if it is 3rd string?

[Meathead]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

chance the bills cut ej: 0.00000¼%

[sudzy]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

chance the bills cut ej: 0.00000¼%

So your admitting there's a chance. Good

[bdutton]

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chance the bills cut ej: 0.00000¼%

[better days]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

This just popped up on my phone...

So, why did you bold EJ Manuel & not Matt Cassel?

As the writer pointed out, Cassel makes the most money.

In fact Cassel makes MUCH more money than EJ & Tyrod COMBINED.

And EJ is the only QB on the Bills with GUARANTEED money coming to him.

And that is for this year & next year as well.

EJ would really have to crap the bed to be cut by the Bills.

I doubt that happens especially with his play in OTA's.

Cassel looks like the Qb that will be cut at this point.

[JoeMama]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

So, why did you bold EJ Manuel & not Matt Cassel?

As the writer pointed out, Cassel makes the most money.

In fact Cassel makes MUCH more money than EJ & Tyrod COMBINED.

And EJ is the only QB on the Bills with GUARANTEED money coming to him.

And that is for this year & next year as well.

EJ would really have to crap the bed to be cut by the Bills.

I doubt that happens especially with his play in OTA's.

Cassel looks like the Qb that will be cut at this point.

Because EJ Manuel was the headline of the article.

No hidden agenda.

I'm a man who firmly believes in meritocracy. If EJ outplays Cassel and Taylor, then he deserves another shot.

Simple as that, ol' pal.

[OpIv37]

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This discussion about cutting EJ is really getting old.

The pros: he's only had 15 starts and didn't exactly have a crack coaching staff to bring him up. The cons: he's never been good and actually regressed last year.

Honestly, I think it's an extremely long shot that he ever becomes a viable starter. That being said, what would be the point in cutting him? He'll get a full preseason with the new coaches, so he'll know the playbook and the system anyway. He's cheap, and cutting him would cost more than keeping him. And the season starts in less than 3 months. Who are we going to find that's better in that short amount of time?

All of this EJ talk comes from nothing but wishful thinking. People are desperate for some sign that we will find a viable QB. EJ wasn't good enough when he played last year- no real debate over that. We have two new QB's on the roster, and if EJ can't even make the roster, then logically it means we must have improved the QB situation. So, people are clinging to any shred of discussion about EJ getting cut because they've built it up in their minds to mean we will have a viable QB this year.

[swiper]

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The Eagles traded Foles and a 2nd for Bradford. Sanchez is there. Why would they ever consider bringing in a player like Manuel? That makes little sense.

[sudzy]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

The Eagles traded Foles and a 2nd for Bradford. Sanchez is there. Why would they ever consider bringing in a player like Manuel? That makes little sense.

Your right. But, bringing in Tebow didn't make any sense. In fact nothing Kelly has done lately makes a lot of sense.

[Night Train]

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So now I've read Cassel could be cut ( Rodak at ESPN ) and some place called SBNation out of someones basement saying Manuel could be cut.

I see the summer dart leagues are well under way. Credibility, be damned.

[Mace]

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So now I've read Cassel could be cut ( Rodak at ESPN ) and some place called SBNation out of someones basement saying Manuel could be cut.

I see the summer dart leagues are well under way. Credibility, be damned.

Also read somewhere Simms could end up the starter. I'm half expecting to read we wanted Pryor. And it's still only June.

[Skooby]

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We need to bring in QB's that might start someday in the NFL, which leaves EJ out.

[JoeMama]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

We need to bring in QB's that might start someday in the NFL, which leaves EJ out.

I agree EJ's outlook seems pretty bleak insofar as developing into a reliable starter.

But given the lack of viable competitors at QB, it's just as likely he sticks around. Cassel had two sporadic good seasons (2008 and 2010) but those days seem like a lifetime ago. And Taylor has never done anything to demonstrate he can become a starter either.

The ugly truth: This is the sorry lot in life we're stuck with.

So all we can do is cross our fingers and hope one of these guys shows something -- ANYTHING -- between now and September.

Obviously one of these scrubs will "win" the job, but it wouldn't shock if me if all three fail to create any separation during the preseason -- rendering the anointed "starter" a hollow gesture that's ostensibly tantamount to defeat for the fans.

We have a truly horrific QB situation on our hands. Maybe the worst in the NFL.

The best we can hope for is a heavy dose of McCoy and a defense that has enough wind to be stuck on the field 60% of the game yet still win ballgames.

[JoeMama]

Re: SBNation: NFL training camp cuts could include EJ Manuel, Tim Tebow

Your right. But, bringing in Tebow didn't make any sense. In fact nothing Kelly has done lately makes a lot of sense.

Chip Kelly strikes me as a guy who's completely bought into his own hubris.

He thinks he can make diamonds out of coal but I think he's in for a major setback this season.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.