Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

[BillsImpossible]

Hindsight is 20/20, crystal clear vision.

Doug Whaley had it right. The Bills should have let EJ start all 16 games in 2014.

The team would be better off today if Orton never stepped on the field.

Doug Marrone wanted no part in the development of EJ Manuel last year.

Whaley deserves credit for being right.

The Bills would be more ahead of the game today if Marrone stuck to the team's game plan instead of going rogue and abusing his power.

[Thurmal]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

I don't know; I kinda enjoyed not completely sucking ass for once.

[Ginger Vitis]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

You made your point in the other thread.. No need for this one hence why many consider you to be "thread obsessed"

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

Why? So they'd be one year closer to realizing he sucks and needs to be replaced?

Shouldn't they have already figured that out?

[Skooby]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

EJ is never going to start an NFL game again.

[better days]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

I don't know; I kinda enjoyed not completely sucking ass for once.

Yeah, it was great watching Orton slide short of a first down to lose a game or to watch Orton lose to the Raiders.

A team that beat only two other teams besides the Bills.

[Ed]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

I don't know; I kinda enjoyed not completely sucking ass for once.

You can thank the defense for that. Not Kyle Orton.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

Naturally Bills impossible is relying on 20/20 hindsight, because during the season he was backing Kyle Orton.

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/226414-The-Buffalo-Bills-Would-Be-2-5-Without-Kyle-Orton-Only-Kelly-Surpasses-Him

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/225933-Kyle-Orton-s-Career-Stats

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/226420-Kyle-Orton-s-Ultimate-Revenge-My-NFL-Dream-Scenario

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/226911-Sign-Kyle-Orton-To-A-3-Year-Contract-ASAP

I'll grant you that Manuel should have started week 17 after we were eliminated (though beating even a half-strength Pats team was still nice), but there was no way we should have rode him the whole season. He was a complete disaster in Houston.

[Novacane]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

Did Whaley really say that?

[ParanoidAndroid]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

The Bills were a playoff team with Orton. EJ was not playing well at all, or did we forget that already? We wanted to win games.

[Ingtar33]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

its almost like i'm in bizzaro world and people don't recall anything ej had done and what the team was doing when he was starter.

This team would have gone 5-11 or 6-10 last year with ej under center for the full season. had that happened Whaley and EJ would be on the street corner today and we definitely would be moaning about our lack of talent at QB, and likely probably wouldn't have got Rex, as the defense probably would have stopped playing hard at some point in the season and would have fallen off the cliff.

orton wasn't worth much, but he did land us our first winning season in almost a decade, and gave us and his teamates a glimmer of hope and something to play for in December.

[better days]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

The Bills were a playoff team with Orton. EJ was not playing well at all, or did we forget that already? We wanted to win games.

EJ was 2-2.

Orton was 7-5 but would have been 6-6 if the Pats* played their starters in the last game.

The Bills were NOT a playoff team with Orton, you are delusional.

[Bill Cody]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

its almost like i'm in bizzaro world and people don't recall anything ej had done and what the team was doing when he was starter.

This team would have gone 5-11 or 6-10 last year with ej under center for the full season. had that happened Whaley and EJ would be on the street corner today and we definitely would be moaning about our lack of talent at QB, and likely probably wouldn't have got Rex, as the defense probably would have stopped playing hard at some point in the season and would have fallen off the cliff.

orton wasn't worth much, but he did land us our first winning season in almost a decade, and gave us and his teamates a glimmer of hope and something to play for in December.

I see that argument and it has some truth to it. But on the other hand I can't help but feel "so what" about what we did last year. I think Orton did get us an extra couple games but we weren't really close to the playoffs and now Orton's retired, not that he was ever going to win us anything. Yeah EJ wasn't good. But we'd sure know a lot more about him now if he had continued to play wouldn't we? The sample size on a guy that came here with obvious holes in his game is still small. Is he worthless? Some have already decided he is. I'm not smart enough to know that. I doubt Castle or Tie Rod is the answer. So what really did those extra couple games do for us going forward? Orton was a small band aid on a huge gash. And now the band aid is off. Should I be excited yet?

[Bill Cody]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

The Bills were a playoff team with Orton.

Let me think about that.....ummm........no. Orton did what Orton does, win about half his games. That isn't playoffs.

[better days]

Re: Doug Whaley Was Right, EJ Manuel Should Have Started All 16 Games Last Year

its almost like i'm in bizzaro world and people don't recall anything ej had done and what the team was doing when he was starter.

This team would have gone 5-11 or 6-10 last year with ej under center for the full season. had that happened Whaley and EJ would be on the street corner today and we definitely would be moaning about our lack of talent at QB, and likely probably wouldn't have got Rex, as the defense probably would have stopped playing hard at some point in the season and would have fallen off the cliff.

orton wasn't worth much, but he did land us our first winning season in almost a decade, and gave us and his teamates a glimmer of hope and something to play for in December.

I will give Orton credit for the Lions win, but nothing else.

I also blame Orton for the Raiders loss.

I think the Bills would have had pretty much the same record with EJ starting the entire season.