Harvin asks for shot at playing CB

[swiper]

Interesting.


Joe Buscaglia @JoeBuscaglia (https://twitter.com/JoeBuscaglia)
#Bills (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash) HC Rex Ryan: Percy Harvin came to us about practicing at corner to help out. We're going to see what he can do, not over coach him

[IlluminatusUIUC]

He knows the way to this team's heart is to be a highly-drafted cornerback.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

He actually might have a better shot making this team as a corner than as a wr/gadget player. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of players switched between WR and CB in college, but I don't think I've ever seen a pro do it.

If anything I think it shows that harvin is willing to do whatever it takes to make the roster, which cant be a bad thing

[IlluminatusUIUC]

He actually might have a better shot making this team as a corner than as a wr/gadget player. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of players switched between WR and CB in college, but I don't think I've ever seen a pro do it.

If anything I think it shows that harvin is willing to do whatever it takes to make the roster, which cant be a bad thing

Our DB roster is FAR deeper then our WR roster. At wideout he has a legit possibility at jumping Woods and being the #2, but he'll likely settle in as the slot guy.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Our DB roster is FAR deeper then our WR roster. At wideout he has a legit possibility at jumping Woods and being the #2, but he'll likely settle in as the slot guy.

Well we can agree to disagree, at either rate both have plenty of depth.

[Famous Amos]

He actually might have a better shot making this team as a corner than as a wr/gadget player. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of players switched between WR and CB in college, but I don't think I've ever seen a pro do it.

If anything I think it shows that harvin is willing to do whatever it takes to make the roster, which cant be a bad thing

George Wilson switched from WR to Safety back in the 2000's.

[Yasgur's Farm]

He actually might have a better shot making this team as a corner than as a wr/gadget player. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of players switched between WR and CB in college, but I don't think I've ever seen a pro do it.

If anything I think it shows that harvin is willing to do whatever it takes to make the roster, which cant be a bad thingPats had a player that played both positions a few yeas ago.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Pats had a player that played both positions a few yeas ago.

I think it was Julian Edleman. Didn't even think about him

[Joe Fo Sho]

He actually might have a better shot making this team as a corner than as a wr/gadget player. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A lot of players switched between WR and CB in college, but I don't think I've ever seen a pro do it.

If anything I think it shows that harvin is willing to do whatever it takes to make the roster, which cant be a bad thing

Devin Hester did it, too.

[ICRockets]

I think it was Julian Edleman. Didn't even think about him

It was Troy Brown, and it was over a decade ago.

[HHURRICANE]

Buster McClurskey....1946...And he kicked the ball and was the driver of the team bus. Seriously, let's put him at QB where he has a legitimate shot.

If this story is true I might have put more faith in Ryan than I should have.

[Mr. Pink]

:rofl:

He's gonna be a 6M dollar 5th corner!!!!!! Brilliance.

And there is no way Harvin isn't making the team at WR. They wouldn't have given him a 3M signing bonus to just cut him.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Pats had a player that played both positions a few yeas ago.
Troy Brown

[Meathead]

curious

theres no danger of him not making the team of course. and it appears the team has one of the deepest cb depth charts theyve ever had. so only via injury would percy ever be needed in that role and it would have to be a pretty desperate situation to take him off offense

i can see them granting his request by giving him a workout, maybe even a few token reps in an early practice. but frankly it would more to appease him and keep his attitude up more than a legit consideration i would thing. not enough return at this point to invest too many precious practice reps. i doubt anything comes of it

[jamze132]

Harvin probably played some flag football this offseason and felt like he could lock down his side of the field while the QB simply ran anyways.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

George Wilson switched from WR to Safety back in the 2000's.

Yeah, after he was a UDFA and a bubble roster player who was trying to avoid washing out of the league. Not as a first round pick who made rookie of the year and the pro bowl as a wideout.


It was Troy Brown, and it was over a decade ago.

And it was done out of desperation after the Pats suffered a rash of injuries at DB. Not in training camp because he thought it would be interesting and helpful.

[SpikedLemonade]

We are paying this guy $6M this year to experiment?

He should shut the **** up and try to be the best WR he can be.

[YardRat]

I'm not going to jinx anything by saying exactly what I'm thinking, but I don't see much good playing Harvin at corner.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

It was Troy Brown, and it was over a decade ago.


I guess so, but I don't remember that. Edleman did it too http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4709298/edelman-tackles-corner-position

[YardRat]

Apparently he took a couple of snaps at corner yesterday?

[better days]

Troy Brown

The most famous player I can think of is Deion Sanders who played both CB & WR.

And of course Deion also played major league baseball.

IMO, the best athlete to ever play in the NFL.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Apparently he took a couple of snaps at corner yesterday?

Yeah he did, thats why Rex was even asked about it in the first place. Not like anything that happens on the first day of camp with no pads means anything

[GingerP]

IMO, the best athlete to ever play in the NFL.

I think Bo Jackson is the best athlete I've ever seen play. Deion is definitely in the discussion, along with Rod Woodson. They say Jim Brown should be as well, but I didn't see him play during his career.

[GingerP]

Yeah he did, thats why Rex was even asked about it in the first place. Not like anything that happens on the first day of camp with no pads means anything

He could be building depth, in case of emergency. McKelvin had a setback and might be out a while, and they have a rookie taking starting snaps at CB. Graham having the ability to play both S & CB helps, but they need him at S. If there are injuries, Harvin might help them get through a crisis, the same reason both Brown & Edelman ended up playing CB.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I think Bo Jackson is the best athlete I've ever seen play. Deion is definitely in the discussion, along with Rod Woodson. They say Jim Brown should be as well, but I didn't see him play during his career.

In terms of raw athletic potential, Bo might be the best American athlete of all time.

For the moment, it looks like JJ Watt might play himself into the discussion.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

He could be building depth, in case of emergency. McKelvin had a setback and might be out a while, and they have a rookie taking starting snaps at CB. Graham having the ability to play both S & CB helps, but they need him at S. If there are injuries, Harvin might help them get through a crisis, the same reason both Brown & Edelman ended up playing CB.

McKelvin out and Graham to safety still leaves us with Brooks, Cockrell, and Robey among guys who have taken NFL snaps at DB. Run through them before we have to turn to a 27 year old, the most expensive wideout on the team, to play a position he hasn't done for 10 years.

[Ingtar33]

Pats had a player that played both positions a few yeas ago.

Troy Brown, he was the ultimate gadget player and Both Parcels and Belichek loved him to death. he stepped in and played nickelback on their first superbowl run when one of their CBs went down, and even split time at both nickelback and wr. he played both against the Rams, and did this while being the main punt returner for years with the pats. he was also a probowl wr... so yeah. the pats had someone like this, and they used him all over the field wherever they needed him.


It was Troy Brown, and it was over a decade ago.

I should have kept reading the thread. beat me to it.

anyway Randy Moss did it for the Pats too.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

anyway Randy Moss did it for the Pats too.

A lot of the huge NFL wideouts will play DB in hail mary situations, but I can never remember Moss playing any real defense.

[Ingtar33]

A lot of the huge NFL wideouts will play DB in hail mary situations, but I can never remember Moss playing any real defense.

he used to practice for the pats on defense... and you're right it was always for a Hail Mary situation. for all we know that's all Harvin wants to do. As far as i'm concerned if a player wan't to learn a new "trick" i'm all for it as long as it doesn't hurt his work at his main position

[IlluminatusUIUC]

he used to practice for the pats on defense... and you're right it was always for a Hail Mary situation. for all we know that's all Harvin wants to do. As far as i'm concerned if a player wan't to learn a new "trick" i'm all for it as long as it doesn't hurt his work at his main position

He'd be horrible for that role, he's 5'11. The idea with putting someone like Moss, Green, or Johnson back there is that they are big enough to jump with the opposing team's best receiver.

[WagonCircler]

If I were an immensely talented athlete and I played on a football team that had a full-on dumpster fire for a QB depth chart, I'd be looking at creative ways to increase my value, too.

[better days]

I think Bo Jackson is the best athlete I've ever seen play. Deion is definitely in the discussion, along with Rod Woodson. They say Jim Brown should be as well, but I didn't see him play during his career.

Deion Sanders had a MUCH better career in both the NFL & major league baseball than Bo Jackson.

[GingerP]

Deion Sanders had a MUCH better career in both the NFL & major league baseball than Bo Jackson.

You never said who had the better career, just who is the best athlete. Jackson had a much shorter career, because of injury.

At any rate, Jackson was the far superior baseball player, becoming an All-Star (something Sanders never accomplished). He was a part-time football player, but still was a eye-popping player. He never played more than 10 games in his 4 seasons, being named to the Pro Bowl in 1990. He is the only major athlete to be named All-Pro in 2 major sports (not Sanders).

But really, it is about who is the best athlete. Bo was just as fast (if not faster) and weighed 35 lbs. more (much bigger and stronger). Both ran college track, but Bo qualified for the nationals in the 100-meter (10.39), something Sanders did not do.

Gil Brandt, the godfather of the NFL draft, called Bo Jackson the best NFL athlete ever, ahead of Sanders. His exact quote was: "The other four guys on this list are extraordinary, but Jackson is far and away above them, a truly special athlete."

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000483888

[better days]

You never said who had the better career, just who is the best athlete. Jackson had a much shorter career, because of injury.

At any rate, Jackson was the far superior baseball player, becoming an All-Star (something Sanders never accomplished). He was a part-time football player, but still was a eye-popping player. He never played more than 10 games in his 4 seasons, being named to the Pro Bowl in 1990. He is the only major athlete to be named All-Pro in 2 major sports (not Sanders).

But really, it is about who is the best athlete. Bo was just as fast (if not faster) and weighed 35 lbs. more (much bigger and stronger). Both ran college track, but Bo qualified for the nationals in the 100-meter (10.39), something Sanders did not do.

Gil Brandt, the godfather of the NFL draft, called Bo Jackson the best NFL athlete ever, ahead of Sanders. His exact quote was: "The other four guys on this list are extraordinary, but Jackson is far and away above them, a truly special athlete."

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000483888

Sanders is an NFL HOF player, something Jackson is not.

I agree, his injuries affected Bo, but injuries are a fact of life.

And Deion was an IRON MAN, played a LONG time without any real injury.

[Meathead]

sounds like percy is taking charles haleys good advice

[GingerP]

Sanders is an NFL HOF player, something Jackson is not.

I agree, his injuries affected Bo, but injuries are a fact of life.

And Deion was an IRON MAN, played a LONG time without any real injury.

You are changing the subject. You said Sanders was "best athlete to ever play in the NFL." You didn't say he had the best career.

I merely pointed out that Jackson was the superior athlete. You don't have to take my word for it, you can ask Gil Brandt.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Sanders is an NFL HOF player, something Jackson is not.

I agree, his injuries affected Bo, but injuries are a fact of life.

And Deion was an IRON MAN, played a LONG time without any real injury.

Deion didn't suffer many injuries because he was notoriously reticent to tackle anybody. He was indeed a HOF cover corner, but you can't hold up his longevity as a virtue over Jackson when the latter was bulldozing people for a living.

[better days]

You are changing the subject. You said Sanders was "best athlete to ever play in the NFL." You didn't say he had the best career.

I merely pointed out that Jackson was the superior athlete. You don't have to take my word for it, you can ask Gil Brandt.

I said IMO which means In my opinion.

And Jackson was NOT the superior athlete AFTER he was injured as evidenced by the careers of BOTH.

[better days]

Deion didn't suffer many injuries because he was notoriously reticent to tackle anybody. He was indeed a HOF cover corner, but you can't hold up his longevity as a virtue over Jackson when the latter was bulldozing people for a living.

Deion did not need to make tackles, NOBODY caught the ball on him.

And Bo was not exactly a bulldozer type of back like Jerome Bettis.

And yes, Bo was injured & not the same after that injury.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Deion did not need to make tackles, NOBODY caught the ball on him.

Running backs would come to his side of the field, which was easy to do as they'd face little resistance there.


And Bo was not exactly a bulldozer type of back like Jerome Bettis.

He didn't need to be because he was fast enough to avoid a lot of contact. But he lowered his head and absolutely destroyed people when he had to. Watch his videos again.


And yes, Bo was injured & not the same after that injury.

Yes, but before the injury he was the best athlete in NFL history. Gale Sayers was up there too. It happens.

[SpikedLemonade]

I said IMO which means In my opinion.

And Jackson was NOT the superior athlete AFTER he was injured as evidenced by the careers of BOTH.

OK so IMO means "in my opinion".

What does NOT, AFTER and BOTH mean?

Let me guess, it means you are an old idiot who left the Buffalo area and now is homer to get over the guilt?

[better days]

Running backs would come to his side of the field, which was easy to do as they'd face little resistance there.



He didn't need to be because he was fast enough to avoid a lot of contact. But he lowered his head and absolutely destroyed people when he had to. Watch his videos again.



Yes, but before the injury he was the best athlete in NFL history. Gale Sayers was up there too. It happens.

We saw very little of Bo play in the NFL before his injury.

One can only guess at how good he could have been.

But he did get injured, fact of life.

[NC-BILLS44]

I saw both Jackson and Sanders play in the NFL and MLB.
Bo Jackson was the better athlete. He could run by defenders or run them over, ask the Boz.

Jackson was named the greatest athlete of all time by ESPN. http://sports.espn.go.com/sportsnation/feature/index?page=greatestofalltime