Cassel will start 1st preaseason game.

[Mace]

Via Rex after going 2-6 for 27 yards in the scrimmage. Always good to reward excellence.

You can look through the tweets.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2015/8/8/9120743/buffalo-bills-training-camp-live-updates-8-8

[MillsapsBillsFan]

I dont understand this. Most reports saw he's been consistently bad. Why would they want him to have the first shot?

[Mace]

I dont understand this. Most reports saw he's been consistently bad. Why would they want him to have the first shot?

I don't know, maybe they figure he needs the most practice or want to give up on him quickest.

[SpikedLemonade]

I sense a lot of frustration coming this year as a Bills fan.

[SpikedLemonade]

Jay Skurski ‏@JaySkurski (https://twitter.com/JaySkurski)<small class="time" style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(136, 153, 166);"> 28m28 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JaySkurski/status/630179194148777984)</small>
Unofficial passing stats from tonight's #Bills (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash) scrimmage: EJ Manuel 5-11, 104 yds, 1 TD; Matt Cassel 2-6, 27 yds; Tyrod Taylor 8-13, 77 yds.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/573218076570865665/1cwGepCG_bigger.jpegJay Skurski ‏@JaySkurski (https://twitter.com/JaySkurski)<small class="time" style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(136, 153, 166);"> 44m44 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/JaySkurski/status/630175143738912768)</small>
Matt Cassel is expected to start the preseason game against Carolina, Rex Ryan announces. #Bills (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash)

[Mace]

I sense a lot of frustration coming this year as a Bills fan.

To some extent but not as bad as the crap teams and knowing 8-8 was a pipe dream.

[Ed]

Maybe they just want to make sure that EJ or Tyrod are starting the all important 3rd preseason game and can say that they gave Cassel a fair shot at the starting job by letting him start the first preseason game. Game 1 is usually pretty vanilla and sloppy. Let Cassel start and look bad as usual, and then move on.

[YardRat]

Cassell handed off more apparently, which fits in with the grouind-and-pound philosophy. Obviously throwing more than ten times hurt EJ and Tyrod, because they don't have as good of a grasp on the offense at this point.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Cassell handed off more apparently, which fits in with the grouind-and-pound philosophy. Obviously throwing more than ten times hurt EJ and Tyrod, because they don't have as good of a grasp on the offense at this point.

Well he handed off more and passed 33% for 27 yards. I don't care what the philosophy is behind why his number suck, the fact is they do suck. It doesn't seem like Matt Cassel has been better than any of the other two options, who both are younger along with a smaller cap hit. From all reports Matt Cassel has been consistently below average, and this should not be rewarded.

I understand that they need to get a good look at the running aspect of our offense, but I'm not worried about the running game. For me it seems like they didn't trust Cassel to pass so they gave him all the run plays instead, that can't bode too well for him

[Typ0]

I would guess they are going to have each guy start a game with the one they have in mind starting the third not the first. Relax.

[feldspar]

I dont understand this. Most reports saw he's been consistently bad. Why would they want him to have the first shot?

Probably because the other options are also bad.

Not a ringing endorsement of Cassel, but he'd probably play smarter than the others, and at least he has experience.

[YardRat]

Well he handed off more and passed 33% for 27 yards. I don't care what the philosophy is behind why his number suck, the fact is they do suck. It doesn't seem like Matt Cassel has been better than any of the other two options, who both are younger along with a smaller cap hit. From all reports Matt Cassel has been consistently below average, and this should not be rewarded.

I understand that they need to get a good look at the running aspect of our offense, but I'm not worried about the running game. For me it seems like they didn't trust Cassel to pass so they gave him all the run plays instead, that can't bode too well for him

My comment was made in jest.

[bleve]

I sense a lot of frustration coming this year as a Bills fan.

ya think?

[MillsapsBillsFan]

My comment was made in jest.

Yeah I see that now, sorry about that this QB situation just is awful. The points about Cassel still ring true.

[better days]

I sense a lot of frustration coming this year as a Bills fan.

I would be much more frustrated watching Cassel play BORING football than watching EJ or Tyrod sling it.

[YardRat]

Everybody knew Cassel was going to get a shot at the starter's job...the really interesting thing to look for is who starts the second preseason game.

[Mace]

Everybody knew Cassel was going to get a shot at the starter's job...the really interesting thing to look for is who starts the second preseason game.

Well, that will be Cassel, just to be sure he's terrible and 3rd too, to be safe, maybe the 4th, he'll be fine by the opener, or maybe the 2nd game...or 3rd....

[HHURRICANE]

Everybody knew Cassel was going to get a shot at the starter's job...the really interesting thing to look for is who starts the second preseason game.

Exactly....as I've been saying.

[Jry44]

Everybody knew Cassel was going to get a shot at the starter's job...the really interesting thing to look for is who starts the second preseason game.

Like someone else already pointed out, I think each will get a start this preseason.

The interesting thing to me however is tgat the read option was being incorporated last week in practice. Cassel obviously lacksthe tool to be any sort of a running threat. So unless they plan on rotating Tyrod Taylor in for read option plays, I'm not sure how Cassel would fit in to the offense if Roman plans on using any read option at all.

[sudzy]

First teamers don't play a lot of the 1st preseason game anyways. Cassel is the veteran who has hit his low ceiling. The other two could use the playing time. Start who ever is ahead in between EJ and Taylor the week after. Then name a starter before week 3 and move forward.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Add this to the stat lines....

Passer rating:
Manuel - 109.65
Taylor: 78.04
Cassel: 48.61

[feldspar]

Add this to the stat lines....

Passer rating:
Manuel - 109.65
Taylor: 78.04
Cassel: 48.61

Because this means a whole hell of a lot when you only attempt 6 passes, like Cassel did...and they're not all equally playing against the ones. Can't really get into a game-type rhythm or anything

Lesean McCoy averaged less than one yard-per-carry too, so it's about time to start panicking about that I suppose.

[better days]

Add this to the stat lines....

Passer rating:
Manuel - 109.65
Taylor: 78.04
Cassel: 48.61

Not a big sample size, but WOW, Cassel has not shown anything yet.

[DetDannyWilliams]

'Buffalo Bills: Matt Cassel makes the most sense' via FanSided Android

http://nflspinzone.com/?p=104076

[better days]

'Buffalo Bills: Matt Cassel makes the most sense' via FanSided Android

http://nflspinzone.com/?p=104076

So EJ is MEDIOCRE at best & the Bills should pin their hopes on Cassel being the QB they need to win?

Well, history shows us Cassel is mediocre at best in a pretty long career he has bounced around & has a losing record.

I really hope to see EJ or Tyrod win this competition over Cassel.

[trapezeus]

i also think cassel is the most expensive of the bunch and needs to seperate himself early to make a case for it.

play him in game 1 and if it's not obvious that he's better and makes less errors, he's packed up and sent out. which should also be held against whaley because this is another pick we traded for someone who hasn't made it through camp.

i think EJ and tyrod are more capable of playing the read option. and i think with roman's use of it with the 49ers, these two have a chance to showcase their athleticm more. but they have to prove that they don'tmake stupid turnovers and that they make the right reads.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Like someone else already pointed out, I think each will get a start this preseason.

The interesting thing to me however is tgat the read option was being incorporated last week in practice. Cassel obviously lacksthe tool to be any sort of a running threat. So unless they plan on rotating Tyrod Taylor in for read option plays, I'm not sure how Cassel would fit in to the offense if Roman plans on using any read option at all.

The qb doesn't have to run the ball himself even in a read option play. They can option between a handoff and a screen pass, to name one example.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Because this means a whole hell of a lot when you only attempt 6 passes, like Cassel did...and they're not all equally playing against the ones. Can't really get into a game-type rhythm or anything

Lesean McCoy averaged less than one yard-per-carry too, so it's about time to start panicking about that I suppose.Yup... Sure... Let's throw away every means of measuring we have and just draw straws.

[feldspar]

Yup... Sure... Let's throw away every means of measuring we have and just draw straws.

It's time for you to draw conclusions and make a decision, fella.

They aren't paying you the big bucks for nothing.

Did you watch the scrimmage? Did Cassel throw the ball away a couple of times? Was it smart? Did somebody break down in coverage for a QB?

I could go on, but a coach making any decision off a stat sheet like this is what? That's right, a guy soon looking for a different line of work.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Fair enough... It's between EJ and Tyrod at this point. Cassel will be released to save the $4.5M.

[Mr. Pink]

Cassel will start the first regular season game too.

[swiper]

Yup... Sure... Let's throw away every means of measuring we have and just draw straws.

He completed 5 passes. FIVE. Using that stat you posted is just stupid.

[swiper]

Fair enough... It's between EJ and Tyrod at this point. Cassel will be released to save the $4.5M.
LOL. Look at Einstein.

One guy completed 5 of 11. Another guy 6 of 13. Cassel only allowed to throw a total of 6 times.

[Typ0]

I could see Cassell getting cut after the game as well.

[Meathead]

the logic is simple: cassel is the vet and seen a lot and will absorb the entire offense the fastest. let him be the first to play with the ones so that you get the most consistently proper executed reps so that the rest of the ones and subs learn their part of the offense faster. plus you dont need as much time evaluating cassel so he can give way a little earlier and let ej and ty work the rest of the first game

that gives ej and ty at least another week to absorb the offense so that when you give them their time with the ones they are better prepared. i would expect ty to start game two since the same general logic applies, hes been around longer and should be further ahead in the offense than ej next week

then start ej in the third game where you give him an extended look when he has the fewest excuses. hes the one you really want to win it if its at all possible, so give him maximum chance to succeed and if he doesnt thats on him and youve got at least the first piece of your answer whether hes ready or not

[Famous Amos]

I dont understand this. Most reports saw he's been consistently bad. Why would they want him to have the first shot?
It's a formality. He's the veteran so he gets first ups. Also, it means our other two guys, not including Simms, will get more time on the field than Cassell, whom the staff knows what he is capable of.

I think its a good thing because we get Cassell out of the way early to see what Manual and Taylor can do.

[Mike]

1st & Last pre-season games are least important. The real question is who's going to start the first 3 quarters of the 3rd game. In the 3rd preseason game, starters play vs starters for nearly all 3 quarters.

[Night Train]

https://twitter.com/nflnetwork/status/631090908260274178

[Mace]

i also think cassel is the most expensive of the bunch and needs to seperate himself early to make a case for it.

play him in game 1 and if it's not obvious that he's better and makes less errors, he's packed up and sent out. which should also be held against whaley because this is another pick we traded for someone who hasn't made it through camp.

i think EJ and tyrod are more capable of playing the read option. and i think with roman's use of it with the 49ers, these two have a chance to showcase their athleticm more. but they have to prove that they don'tmake stupid turnovers and that they make the right reads.

I think a lot of the read option effect was Harbaugh though, Roman just never has too much to do with passing game.

[BillsImpossible]

Cassel is going to start and he's going to be Matt Cassel.

Then Tyrod Taylor is going to step on the field and light up RWS like a Christmas tree with a big play.

He'll be the instant fan favorite after Friday's game, imho.

[Mr. Pink]

Cassel is going to start and he's going to be Matt Cassel.

Then Tyrod Taylor is going to step on the field and light up RWS like a Christmas tree with a big play.

He'll be the instant fan favorite after Friday's game, imho.

And then EJ Manuel will come in, in the 4th quarter against players who won't be in the NFL in 2 weeks and he will light it up.

Some fans will eat all of that up and say that EJ is awesome and turned some corner. They'll then say he should get the start in the 2nd game and when he doesn't start another game in a Bills uniform they will blame the management, the coaching, and whatever else they can find besides EJ Manuel himself for why he failed.

[Yasgur's Farm]

LOL. Look at Einstein.

One guy completed 5 of 11. Another guy 6 of 13. Cassel only allowed to throw a total of 6 times.Isn't that cute... Looks like I have a 4th grader stalker.

[swiper]

I wouldn't waste my time stalking.

Pointing out the stupidity is fun however.

[swiper]

1st & Last pre-season games are least important. The real question is who's going to start the first 3 quarters of the 3rd game. In the 3rd preseason game, starters play vs starters for nearly all 3 quarters.


Geez. We have another Einstein among us.

[Yasgur's Farm]

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[swiper]

There are numerous examples of the moderators & administrators outright ignoring the t.o.s. You are posting them because you don't like being called out on posts you make that are ridiculous? Is that thin skin? IDK.

All I know is that posting those QB rankings from a scrimmage where no QB completed more than 6 passes is ridiculous. Posting them in a clear attempt to make EJ Manuel better than he is. But whatever.

[Yasgur's Farm]

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[swiper]

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[Victor7]

I would be much more frustrated watching Cassel play BORING football than watching EJ or Tyrod sling it.

lol at EJ slinging it

More like dumping it off inaccurately or sailing a pass 5 yards off target.

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And then EJ Manuel will come in, in the 4th quarter against players who won't be in the NFL in 2 weeks and he will light it up.

Some fans will eat all of that up and say that EJ is awesome and turned some corner. They'll then say he should get the start in the 2nd game and when he doesn't start another game in a Bills uniform they will blame the management, the coaching, and whatever else they can find besides EJ Manuel himself for why he failed.

Nah man.

EJ will come in vs the guys who won't be in the NFL in 2 weeks and he will NOT light it up. He's that bad.

[better days]

lol at EJ slinging it

More like dumping it off inaccurately or sailing a pass 5 yards off target.

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Nah man.

EJ will come in vs the guys who won't be in the NFL in 2 weeks and he will NOT light it up. He's that bad.

Like I said, EJ can complete it about 58% of the time.

And he is more likely to complete a long ball than a dump off.

[k-oneputt]

With this team and what they plan to do on offense, Cassel is the best option at this point.

[Mr. Pink]

lol at EJ slinging it

More like dumping it off inaccurately or sailing a pass 5 yards off target.

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Nah man.

EJ will come in vs the guys who won't be in the NFL in 2 weeks and he will NOT light it up. He's that bad.

EJ has looked good in brief periods on the field. A couple series isn't too much of a stretch.

The problem is he never looks good for the majority of a game.