Game Thread

[SpikedLemonade]

Is there a chat box? Where is everyone?

In any event, so far an offense featuring 5 yard passes.

[Mr. Pink]

Why Robert Woods sat down 2 yards short of the first down baffles me.

And why they're back to shotgun on 3rd and short also baffles me.

Shady looked good on his one catch.

[cookie G]

a 4 yard pass on 3rd and 6...

expect to see a lot of that this year.

Just like last year

and the year before

and the year before...

etc

[SpikedLemonade]

Shady made them miss tackles. We did not see any of that last year.

[cookie G]

because they aren't running shady over the center on every run play.

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The D looks like..the D.

[SpikedLemonade]

I would like them to test this OL by running between the tackles.

There is one designed to do so but there was no hole so Shady busted outside.

[Mr. Pink]

The run blocking is abysmal so far.

Cassels throws have all been on target at least, even if the majority are 4-7 yard dump offs.

[Strongman]

The OL gave Cassel a nice pocket on that 3rd and 6. Really nice pass and catch.

[djjimkelly]

The run blocking is abysmal so far.

Cassels throws have all been on target at least, even if the majority are 4-7 yard dump offs.


i know its only a drive and a half but cassel looks way better then orton did ever

[SpikedLemonade]

I like the way Williams runs.

[psubills62]

Williams got tough yards there.

[SpikedLemonade]

2 penalties on Mulligan already. I was prepared to give him one mulligan, but not two.

[Mr. Pink]

That last play would have been better off being run to Clay instead of Mulligan.

Too slow to make that work.

[SpikedLemonade]

That last play would have been better off being run to Clay instead of Mulligan.

Too slow to make that work.

You can see how desperately they want Mulligan to make this team since they realize they don't have a TE other than him who can block worth a crap.

[Ed]

I can't wait to watch the defense this year.

Bring on Tyrod. I've seen enough of Cassel's dinking and dunking short of first downs. He is who he is. I want someone that can match the excitement and big play potential of our D and running game.

[SpikedLemonade]

Looked like PI on Gilmore there.

[Mr. Pink]

Nice open field tackle by Aaron Williams.

[Mr. Pink]

After seeing how Thigpen is still returning the ball, I don't think there's any reason to keep Goodwin on this team anymore.

[SpikedLemonade]

I would like to see Harvin returning punts. If we don't use him for punt and kick off returns, I expect we will be overpaying him given a limited offensive role.

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After seeing how Thigpen is still returning the ball, I don't think there's any reason to keep Goodwin on this team anymore.

Not if the plan is for Thigpen to be the returner.

[The Jokeman]

After seeing how Thigpen is still returning the ball, I don't think there's any reason to keep Goodwin on this team anymore.

Goodwin might show something in the passing game yet with Easley getting hurt earlier they both might make it.

[SpikedLemonade]

How come Williams sees the holes between the tackles that Shady cannot?

[Scumbag College]

Keep 5 WRs and two of them are special teamers.

[Mace]

It's good watching Bills football again.

[Luisito23]

Good run...1st.

[The Natrix]

Cassel = the new Captain Checkdown.

Let's go Tyrod!!!

[Mr. Pink]

Goodwin might show something in the passing game yet with Easley getting hurt earlier they both might make it.

The only thing we've seen Goodwin ever do here on offense is run fly patterns, which he missed on there...tough catch though. You're gonna have Watkins, Woods, Harvin, Hogan, Easley as the top 5 WRs...which leaves only one spot open, imo.

[SpikedLemonade]

The only thing we've seen Goodwin ever do here on offense is run fly patterns, which he missed on there...tough catch though. You're gonna have Watkins, Woods, Harvin, Hogan, Easley as the top 5 WRs...which leaves only one spot open, imo.

I'm not thrilled to have Hogan on the team.

[SpikedLemonade]

I like Williams. Big enough to be in for short yardage and fast enough to relieve Shady.

Bye bye Boobie.

[djjimkelly]

1 taylor drive we have no clue if he can throw he was running after 3 step drop everytime.

but we scored

[Luisito23]

Tyrod had a perfect drive.

[djjimkelly]

I like Williams. Big enough to be in for short yardage and fast enough to relieve Shady.

Bye bye Boobie.

i despise upright runner boobie and i dislike that he is called BOOBIE

[The Jokeman]

Tyrod had a perfect drive.

Perfect? I didn't see him complete a pass.

[SpikedLemonade]

i despise upright runner boobie and i dislike that he is called BOOBIE

Williams runs too upright as well but seems to have a lot more speed than Boobie. Williams is seeing the holes better than Shady thus far.

[cookie G]

i know its only a drive and a half but cassel looks way better then orton did ever

on 4 3rd down chances..he actually attempted to get a 1st down once.

but he kept is completion percentage up and showed nice poise throwing his checkdowns.

Trent Edwards' revenge.

Get use to lots of FG's and punts if this guy is the starter.

[Luisito23]

1 taylor drive we have no clue if he can throw he was running after 3 step drop everytime.

but we scored


He's faster than I thought, but let's see what happens...The defense is nasty though.

[cookie G]

Perfect? I didn't see him complete a pass.

It was fun to watch.

and they actually scored!...(egad!!)

Chip Kelly was watching a smiling the whole time.

[Luisito23]

Perfect? I didn't see him complete a pass.


Perfect = scoring, no turnovers.

[SpikedLemonade]

They got Gilmore on that one. He got away with the one in the 1st.

[Mr. Pink]

Still don't like Gilmore as the top corner.

[SpikedLemonade]

Still don't like Gilmore as the top corner.

Too much invested in him and will invest in him to make a change. The DL costs a ton of money to keep intact.

[The Jokeman]

Perfect = scoring, no turnovers.

Sorry I grade QBs on ability to throw the ball, thus far Tyrod gets a failing grade.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Defend the sticks.

[SpikedLemonade]

Most of our 1st string D is out right?

[Mr. Pink]

Too much invested in him and will invest in him to make a change. The DL costs a ton of money to keep intact.

And the new guy we drafted, Darby, looks like garbage.

[cookie G]

Oh good...next year's numbe 1 pick is going to be ...

...a CB.

[SpikedLemonade]

Benji making Gilmore his biotch.

[Ed]

Not sure how you defend Benjamin there. He's huge and can push off.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Bad endzone technique from Darby. He'll learn that every receiver in the NFL is going to push off. Gotta sweep that arm away and stay close.

[SpikedLemonade]

Oh good...next year's numbe 1 pick is going to be ...

...a CB.

Sure isn't going to be an OL when you pick up any fat guy to play OL.

[cookie G]

Gotta sweep that arm away and stay close.

pfft...

In this defense...

SWEEP THE LEG!!!

NO MERCY!!

[SpikedLemonade]

Goodwin sure can run once he catches the ball.

[cookie G]

Sure isn't going to be an OL when you pick up any fat guy to play OL.

Or QB.

But admit it..you got a bit of a chubby over Miller's pull and seal job on Shady's off tackle run.

[SpikedLemonade]

Or QB.

But admit it..you got a bit of a chubby over Miller's pull and seal job on Shady's off tackle run.

That was very encouraging.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Uh oh. Taylor is making a case so far.

[Mr. Pink]

That's a play where any of the other QBs on this roster would have been sacked.

Best play by Tyrod so far.

[ParanoidAndroid]

I'm seeing the possibility of a QB by committee. Interesting.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Too easy. O-line looks damn good. That makes me very happy.

[Mr. Pink]

I'm seeing the possibility of a QB by committee. Interesting.

I've seen a couple people mention Tyrod might be used a lot like Kordell Stewart was used in his rookie year when O'Donnell was starting. I can see that happening.

[SpikedLemonade]

Too easy. O-line looks damn good. That makes me very happy.

This would be against some of the Panthers 2nd string DL, but both Williams and Brown seem to be finding holes between the tackles. Shady could not.

[The Natrix]

Tyrod!

[cookie G]

That was very encouraging.

He's had a key block on just about every big run.

BTW...kind of cool when they have RB's run through more than just one hole.

[Albany,n.y.]

Sorry I grade QBs on ability to throw the ball, thus far Tyrod gets a failing grade.

2 drives 14 points with Tyrod. A+

[psubills62]

Now that's how you defend a screen pass. Dang.

[SpikedLemonade]

He's had a key block on just about every big run.

BTW...kind of cool when they have RB's run through more than just one hole.

I like when Shady dances after the line of scrimmage but not when he is dancing before he gets there. He did not seem eager to run between the tackles like Williams and Brown have.

[psubills62]

Taylor is playing to win the job. Going all out to get the first down in a preseason game. Good for him.

[Mr. Pink]

IK was held on the first play and clotheslined on the second. :rofl:

[psubills62]

Wow, they had a big old bead on IK that play.

[Mr. Pink]

Well apparently after two drives Tyrod decides to turn into Bills QBs of old in the two minute drill, dink, dunk, little run well short and then on 4th down throw it deep!

Meanwhile Derek Scrubtastic Anderson was able to lead the Panthers to a FG in the 2 minute drill.

[The Jokeman]

Taylor is playing to win the job. Going all out to get the first down in a preseason game. Good for him.

Is it? What if he gets hurt and it costs him the season? I get people like the excitement Tyrod invokes but Tom Brady, Peyton Manning are boring to watch but yet they win. I know I'm going to sound like the minority but thus far Cassel has shown me more than Tyrod has.

[Oaf]

Is it? What if he gets hurt and it costs him the season? I get people like the excitement Tyrod invokes but Tom Brady, Peyton Manning are boring to watch but yet they win. I know I'm going to sound like the minority but thus far Cassel has shown me more than Tyrod has.

Both played well! All we can ask for.

Not happy about the CBs so far. Like to see more of Butler.

[Slim]

Anyone have a link to stream the game? Please PM it to me. Thanks

[psubills62]

Is it? What if he gets hurt and it costs him the season? I get people like the excitement Tyrod invokes but Tom Brady, Peyton Manning are boring to watch but yet they win. I know I'm going to sound like the minority but thus far Cassel has shown me more than Tyrod has.
You're reading too much into my post. After watching 15 years of lackluster football, it's nice to see someone has passion for the game and is legitimately working to win the job. Crazy to say, but football is supposed to be entertainment, and I find watching Taylor entertaining. I'm not saying he's the man for the job based on one preseason game or anything like that. But it's simply more fun watching this offense score points with Taylor than it is watching Trent Edwards v.2.0.

[BillsImpossible]

The Bills have a quarterback!!!

There's no fair comparison between Cassel and Taylor.

It's a win or lose, night and day difference between the two.

Cassel produced 45, "safe and conservative," yards that put up zero points.

The quarterback competition is over.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Highlight of the game so far is the Geico commercials. :D

[ParanoidAndroid]

Darby is oh fer defending the deep pass.

[cookie G]

I know I'm going to sound like the minority but thus far Cassel has shown me more than Tyrod has.

What exactly did he "show"?

Throwing swing passes on 3 and long, multiple times?

idk...I am so tired of guys that can't do anything but set up the offense for a FG.

It hasn't worked for this team in 15 years, its not going to work now.

[Oaf]

Pleasantly surprised by Cassel today.

[psubills62]

I find it incredibly annoying to watch a team complete these sideline passes over and over again. Low percentage shots downfield that we seemingly haven't completed since the advent of the forward pass.

Guess we'll see if it really was a completion or not, but still.

[The Jokeman]

What exactly did he "show"?

Throwing swing passes on 3 and long, multiple times?

idk...I am so tired of guys that can't do anything but set up the offense for a FG.

It hasn't worked for this team in 15 years, its not going to work now.

He showed me he can sit in the pocket and take what the defense gave him and complete a pass and move the chains. It's what I want in a QB. I get people get excited seeing Tyrod spin and make guys miss but at the end of the day QBs that can pass win more than those who can't in the NFL.

[ParanoidAndroid]

There ya go rook!

[The Jokeman]

The Bills have a quarterback!!!

There's no fair comparison between Cassel and Taylor.

It's a win or lose, night and day difference between the two.

Cassel produced 45, "safe and conservative," yards that put up zero points.

The quarterback competition is over.

I'm sure Tyrod will end up starting next week, let's see what he does before we give him the starting job when the regular season starts.

[BillsImpossible]

Pleasantly surprised by Cassel today.

I'm not pleasantly surprised with mediocrity and zero points.

45 freaking yards and you're, "pleasantly surprised?"

[SpikedLemonade]

This D of ours is tough to run against.

[Mike]

Funny Tweet about Mettenburger being traded to Bills was featured on ESPN:
"With Mettenburger Bills make playoff. What would it take to get him?"

He's lighting it up.

What do you think?

[ParanoidAndroid]

I'm glad they're going after Darby. He's getting some valuable reps. A couple of good plays but too many mistakes. Does
Graham go back to CB if Darby doesn't improve quickly?

[BillsImpossible]

Who made the most, "Big Plays," tonight so far for the Bills?

[SpikedLemonade]

I'm glad they're going after Darby. He's getting some valuable reps. A couple of good plays but too many mistakes. Does
Graham go back to CB if Darby doesn't improve quickly?

Yes he does.

[psubills62]

I'm glad they're going after Darby. He's getting some valuable reps. A couple of good plays but too many mistakes. Does
Graham go back to CB if Darby doesn't improve quickly?
I'm fine with trial by fire. CB's tend to make their biggest jump from year 1 to year 2, but have to hope Darby can learn from preseason and pick it up come regular season.

[Mace]

looked over the line to me

[psubills62]

Not incredibly impressed with our 2nd string defense's ability to stop Derek Anderson.

[Mace]

terrible call, officials in regular season form

[BillsImpossible]

Here comes EJ Manuel to save the day.

[cookie G]

He showed me he can sit in the pocket and take what the defense gave him and complete a pass and move the chains. It's what I want in a QB. I get people get excited seeing Tyrod spin and make guys miss but at the end of the day QBs that can pass win more than those who can't in the NFL.

I'm not trying to be facetious..but between the scrimmage and the 2 drives in today's game..how many TD drives has he engineered?

0 of 7?

Forget preseason, or scrimmage, or vanilla offenses...etc. etc....

This is what you get from a guy like Cassel...and Cassel in particular.

You might get a decent completion percentage, move the chains for a few first downs, but getting in the endzone is a rarity.

Anyone can throw a 3 yard pass on a 3rd and 7 if that's what "the defense gives them".

Give me the guy that makes an attempt to convert the 3rd down...and give a raise to the guy that actually converts it.

4 years of Trent Edwards was more than enough.

[ParanoidAndroid]

I'm not pleasantly surprised with mediocrity and zero points.

45 freaking yards and you're, "pleasantly surprised?"

I think he was efficient. Penalties and the drop by Hogan on a very catchable ball were more to blame. Also, if Woods lowers the pads and drives forward instead of running parallel, he picks up the first.

Anyway.... here comes EJ.

[SpikedLemonade]

EJ!!

EJ!!

EJ!!

[The Jokeman]

Not incredibly impressed with our 2nd string defense's ability to stop Derek Anderson.

Veteran QBs > inexperienced defenders.

[SpikedLemonade]

Crap!!! There are times when Brown looks like a stud.

[BillsImpossible]

Bad throw to Goodwin.

[Mr. Pink]

EJ should be cut during the postgame press conference.

He's ***** horrendous.

[SpikedLemonade]

Was that snap EJ's fault?

[BillsImpossible]

It's over for EJ.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Wow.

[SpikedLemonade]

WTF!!!!

[ParanoidAndroid]

Urbik or EJ or both?

[SpikedLemonade]

The Centre was clearly blaming EJ.

[The Jokeman]

As someone who had hope for EJ, I just lost a lot of it with that drive. That said I still don't cut him until after we play the Patriots in Week 2.

[SpikedLemonade]

Just can't run against this D.

[Mr. Pink]

YaY we get to see EJ some more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are the odds that EJ doesn't even lead the team to a FG on this "drive" :rofl:

[SpikedLemonade]

Williams looks great.

Fast.

Big.

Can catch the ball.

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Nothing wrong with that pass. Gray is an idiot.

[Mr. Pink]

Wow! EJ leads the Bills to 3 yards and 3 points.

At least he caught the snap this time.

[BillsImpossible]

Urbik or EJ or both?

Urbik started the game at left guard. It's not like he's rusty.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Gray should have had a huge gain. That was his drop, not EJ's.

[The Jokeman]

Williams looks great.

Fast.

Big.

Can catch the ball.

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Nothing wrong with that pass. Gray is an idiot.

and that's what I want to see from Tyrod going through his reads etc. I mean people will criticize EJ for not getting a TD that drive but as you eluded nothing wrong with EJ's play there.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Urbik started the game at left guard. It's not like he's rusty.

Not to be trite, but... So what?

[Oaf]

Sometimes a lack of spiral can muck things up. Though I didn't see the release.

[The Jokeman]

Not to be trite, but... So what?

BillsImpossible is a Tyrod fan so he wants to find a reason to fault EJ any chance he can get.

[Mr. Pink]

and that's what I want to see from Tyrod going through his reads etc. I mean people will criticize EJ for not getting a TD that drive but as you eluded nothing wrong with EJ's play there.

Meh.

EJ threw the ball literally as hard as he could to a receiver about 5 yards away from him...zero touch on that pass.

Yes, it should have still been caught but there was no reason for EJ to put absolutely no touch on it either.

[BillsImpossible]

BillsImpossible is a Tyrod fan so he wants to find a reason to fault EJ any chance he can get.

I can't believe you're still making excuses for EJ Manuel. It's over dude.

[The Jokeman]

Meh.

EJ threw the ball literally as hard as he could to a receiver about 5 yards away from him...zero touch on that pass.

Yes, it should have still been caught but there was no reason for EJ to put absolutely no touch on it either.

Yeah I guess he should have just spun around and ran for the first down because it be more exciting.

[BillsImpossible]

Yeah I guess he should have just spun around and ran for the first down because it be more exciting.

That would help.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Mucked up that special teams play.

[The Jokeman]

I can't believe you're still making excuses for EJ Manuel. It's over dude.

I agree Manuel likely won't be starting for this team long term but I hope like hell Tyrod doesn't until he can show me he has the fundamentals down.

[Mr. Pink]

Yeah I guess he should have just spun around and ran for the first down because it be more exciting.

Or you know he could have put a little touch on the ball making it easier for Gray to catch it.

But does touch not matter? If it doesn't, then it gets rid of one of EJ's numerous flaws.

How many good QBs in the league throw 98mph fastballs to guys wide open 5 yards in front of them?

[The Jokeman]

That would help.

How would that help? It's not going to make him a better passer which is what most of us want to see.

[The Jokeman]

Or you know he could have put a little touch on the ball making it easier for Gray to catch it.

But does touch not matter? If it doesn't, then it gets rid of one of EJ's numerous flaws.

How many good QBs in the league throw 98mph fastballs to guys wide open 5 yards in front of them?

I'm not dismissing EJ's flaws I just wish some would see Tyrod has many similar flaws but because he's a little faster and maybe quicker on his initial read people don't want to or can't see them.

[Mr. Pink]

I'm not dismissing EJ's flaws I just wish some would see Tyrod has many similar flaws but because he's a little faster and maybe quicker on his initial read people don't want to or can't see them.

I saw nothing out of Tyrod Taylor tonight that I haven't seen watching guys like Brad Smith, Troy Smith, Eric Crouch, Tim Tebow, etc running the option offense in college.

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And then EJ goes out and throws the best ball of the night.

Consistency would go a long way.

[The Jokeman]

I saw nothing out of Tyrod Taylor tonight that I haven't seen watching guys like Brad Smith, Troy Smith, Eric Crouch, Tim Tebow, etc running the option offense in college.

Which is not NFL QBing.


I saw nothing out of Tyrod Taylor tonight that I haven't seen watching guys like Brad Smith, Troy Smith, Eric Crouch, Tim Tebow, etc running the option offense in college.

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And then EJ goes out and throws the best ball of the night.

Consistency would go a long way.

Again 14 NFL starts, is it enough to dismiss him? I go back and fourth.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

damn nice pass from EJ
sure is a mess trying to pick a starter

[JoeMama]

Hey good for EJ!

It was getting painful for a while there.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

That is why EJ got a first round pick and why coaches are so reluctant to give up on him. He threw that fifty yards in the air without even setting his feet.

Sure wish he could hit things more consistently.

[SpikedLemonade]

Well done EJ.

[BillsImpossible]

Hey eh eh eh eh.

EJ made a nice pass. Makes up for his first series.

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damn nice pass from EJ
sure is a mess trying to pick a starter

No, it's not.

[SpikedLemonade]

EJ clearly has the most physical talent of the 3 QBs but he just can't seem to be consistent and make his reads fast enough.

[The Jokeman]

Hey eh eh eh eh.

EJ made a nice pass. Makes up for his first series.

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No, it's not.

Isn't part of a QBs job to make passes?

[Mace]

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Sweet to see what he can do when he can do it. Looking forward to the rest of the preseason.

[BillsImpossible]

Isn't part of a QBs job to make passes?

Yes, especially against 3rd string/bubble players.

[Mr. Pink]

Which is not NFL QBing.



Again 14 NFL starts, is it enough to dismiss him? I go back and fourth.

Agree on Tyrod, he's gonna have to show he can throw the ball a little to be a legitimate QB option.

Problem with EJ is we've seen a lot more of that first series with him in there, than that second series. If he was even close to 50/50 on looking good and looking bad it would lend to more confidence that he could grow as a player.

One of the things that I've noticed watching him play is that when he has more time to think about what to do, he overdoes it and the throw is off in some manner, accuracy, touch but when he's just out there and makes a reaction based on ability and wings it - good things happen like that TD pass.

[djjimkelly]

Hey eh eh eh eh.

EJ made a nice pass. Makes up for his first series.

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No, it's not.

i have nothing against taylor but he ran 3 times and didnt complete a pass on first TD . had one nice completion for 10 yards next series with a massive run after the catch.


im sorry taylor needs to show he isnt a 3 second a run guy before i think he is anything.


tonight to me has shown all of them are on the same level basically........

just who does rex believe in

[The Jokeman]

Agree on Tyrod, he's gonna have to show he can throw the ball a little to be a legitimate QB option.

Problem with EJ is we've seen a lot more of that first series with him in there, than that second series. If he was even close to 50/50 on looking good and looking bad it would lend to more confidence that he could grow as a player.

One of the things that I've noticed watching him play is that when he has more time to think about what to do, he overdoes it and the throw is off in some manner, accuracy, touch but when he's just out there and makes a reaction based on ability and wings it - good things happen like that TD pass.

I agree EJ gets in his own head too much. If he just goes out there and plays he's great. He reminds me of RJ in that sense yet he's more durable and seems to have a better pocket presence.

[BillsImpossible]

tonight to me has shown all of them are on the same level basically........

No offense, but I think you're nuts.

[SpikedLemonade]

Listening to Jim Kelly talk, it is clear why he will never be a NFL Coach.

He just isn't very smart.

He had a specific skill where he could read a play and execute quickly, but playing chess against him would be like playing a bag of hammers.

I suspect he has some brain damage by now.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Great block on the sweep.

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

shut up spikedlemonade

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im just goofing around with you spikedlemonade :)

[ParanoidAndroid]

Listening to Jim Kelly talk, it is clear why he will never be a NFL Coach.

He just isn't very smart.

He had a specific skill where he could read a play and execute quickly, but playing chess against him would be like playing a bag of hammers.

I suspect he has some brain damage by now.

Blasphemy! You shall burn in hell.

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[SpikedLemonade]

I still love Bryce Brown. I wish that MF'er would just hold onto the ball. I like his combination of speed and size.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Davis cut his route short.

[SpikedLemonade]

Watching these 3rd and 4th stringers is pretty irrelevant these days when we have a good starting line up. When we really sucked, they had a chance to make the team.

I like looking at Jim Kelly more than I like listening to him.

[The Jokeman]

Watching these 3rd and 4th stringers is pretty irrelevant these days when we have a good starting line up. When we really sucked, they had a chance to make the team.

I like looking at Jim Kelly more than I like listening to him.

I'd prefer to look at his daughter.

[djjimkelly]

No offense, but I think you're nuts.

as i do you :)

i dont care who is the qb

part of me just wants to see a young guy with a potential to be the bills qb for the next XXX years

part of me gets what cassel seems to be able to do with getting ball out fast and running an offense with rhythm.

and ill be honest i see flutie when i see tyrod i wasnt impressed then wont be now.

we need to draft one and hope one of these 3 chumps does something this year

[ParanoidAndroid]

And the boredom sets in. That's the EJ frustration. He makes a great play or two and misses badly on others.

[Mace]

Ryan looks like it's the last 2 min of Super Bowl. You know, I kind of like that in a preseason game of a wonder.

[Mace]

oof.

[Mr. Pink]

That play made there by Webb is just as impressive as anything Tyrod did tonight, if not more, and he's the Panthers third string QB.

Just for some perspective of those of you who are on the Tyrod Taylor is God train.

[SpikedLemonade]

That play made there by Webb is just as impressive as anything Tyrod did tonight, if not more, and he's the Panthers third string QB.

Just for some perspective of those of you who are on the Tyrod Taylor is God train.

Yup.

We still do not a QB worth a damn.

[SpikedLemonade]

We are going the wrong way....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_akwHYMdbsM

[Mace]

If I were Ryan I'd beat Rivera up, he can take him

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

And the boredom sets in. That's the EJ frustration. He makes a great play or two and misses badly on others.

It's like watching George W Bush speak. Everynow and then there's a sentence that makes sense, and you go "Daayyyumm!"

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

If I were Ryan I'd beat Rivera up, he can take him

Yeah, bully for him