Bills Release Fred Jackson

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Per Vic Carucci and Sal Capaccio.

https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/638352984473251840

https://twitter.com/SalSports/status/638353247791616000

Wow. I did not see this coming at all. I wanted Fred to retire in a Bills uniform and I thought he had earned that right

[THE END OF ALL DAYS]

awesome, this makes room for ciera woods!
Sarcasm
he'll be a patriot by the end of the week

[djjimkelly]

WOW

[The King]

Hard to imagine he clears 31 teams on waivers and lands in NE. He's the best. I wish him nothing be success.

[THRILLHO]

**** this.

[streetkings01]

awesome, this makes room for ciera woods!
Sarcasm
he'll be a patriot by the end of the weekI dont think New England is in the market for a 34 often injured running back with 1 1000 yard season and fumble problems.

[Victor7]

This is just wrong on every level imaginable.

Team leader, face of the franchise and fan favorite.

Wonder how the locker room will take this one

[Ed]

WTF??

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

Sucks but is life. Williams is a beast.

[streetkings01]

I liked Fred but the past couple years he's been very replaceable.

[streetkings01]

This is just wrong on every level imaginable.

Team leader, face of the franchise and fan favorite.

Wonder how the locker room will take this oneThe same way all teams take it when you move on from a player. The Packers traded Brett Favre..........the 49ers traded Montana.........it happens.

[SPG]

Wow. Didn't see this coming... especially with the injuries and his performance on Saturday.

[The King]

Ahhh the internet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNvmGvgUEAAddks.png

[Typ0]

It's a tough loss for the organization but it had to be done. Good luck Fred don't think you aren't appreciated. His mentality took this team through hell and back to respectable.

[djjimkelly]

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-news/2015/8/31/9231589/buffalo-bills-roster-cuts-rumors-live-updates-as-team-trims-to-75

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000518343/article/nfl-roster-cuts-tracker

[Victor7]

Does this mean we are keeping Bryce Brown ?

*throws up in his mouth*

[Mr. Miyagi]

This is so wrong.

I hope he becomes a timeshare starter on another RB hungry team.

[ParanoidAndroid]

:(

[casdhf]

Despite his play, age and the fact that I saw this coming. I am devastated by this.

Sign with Miami a-la Thurman.

[Mr. Miyagi]

This is so wrong.

I hope he becomes a timeshare starter on another RB hungry team.
It might be a respectful thing the Bills are doing for him too, knowing he's not going to start for us, release him now outright instead of dangling him on for a trade (which we could've), and let him have a say on where he wants to go.

[The King]

It might be a respectful thing the Bills are doing for him too, knowing he's not going to start for us, release him now outright instead of dangling him on for a trade (which we could've), and let him have a say on where he wants to go.
He doesn't though, he has to clear waivers. He could end up in frickin Jacksonville.

[WagonCircler]

**** Rex Ryan.

[Mike]

Say it isn't so... http://t.co/gooH00pGk5

[stuckincincy]

Ahhh the internet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNvmGvgUEAAddks.png

Thumb thugs are everywhere...

[Victor7]

That means Shady and Karlos are 1 and 2. Is Rex honestly trying to tell me that Fred is behind Boobie or Bryce "fumble" Brown ?? Common man! With the leadership he brings and toughness no way he couldn't be kept as the 3.

This is just wrong.

[Mike]

I dont think New England is in the market for a 34 often injured running back with 1 1000 yard season and fumble problems.

I remember Bill Bilichick talking really foundly of FJ. Hrs definitely someone Bill would have signed

[OpIv37]

Much respect to FJax but it's business. No team can afford to hold guys forever just because they are leaders and fan favorites.

That being said, I don't understand how they cut him with so many injuries at the position right now.

[Mike]

Sorry, didn't see other thread. Feel free to merge

[sdbillsfan2]

The ultimate team player. A born leader . And a guy that always gave 110 %
Thats how I'll remember Fred Ex.

[justasportsfan]

That sucks. He was a Moorman type of fan favorite. Definitely mine. Rex better win. Now I can see FJax in a jets uniform with Fitz and CHan :puke:

[Mr. Miyagi]

He doesn't though, he has to clear waivers. He could end up in frickin Jacksonville.
I can see him in Houston being a very good fit, instant RB1 for that team.

[Mr. Miyagi]

That means Shady and Karlos are 1 and 2. Is Rex honestly trying to tell me that Fred is behind Boobie or Bryce "fumble" Brown ?? Common man! With the leadership he brings and toughness no way he couldn't be kept as the 3.

This is just wrong.
I actually think the Bills are doing him a favor by releasing him, knowing he was going to be stuck on the bench. After such a good showing yesterday, his stocks are high and they let him go out like that. I don't think it's a diss at all.

[ckg927]

Be honest: Do you REALLY think the Bills will keep Bryce Brown? If I were on the Bills coaching staff, I certainly wouldn't. Dixon is higher on the depth chart.

[senseofdoom]

Please not the cowboys

[chernobylwraiths]

I might buy his jersey on whatever team he ends up on. Except NE, Dallas, or Miami

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I can see him in Houston being a very good fit, instant RB1 for that team.

Jackson is a committee/3rd down back no matter where he goes. I hope to hell it's not Houston though, we'd have to play him.

In any event, it's a sad day. I had thought this would happen and even argued that it should happen, but it still stinks. Surprised they cut him in the first round.

[SpikedLemonade]

So this is to save $2.35M?

Well if Cassel is not the starter, they will probably cut him to save the $5.5M.

[justasportsfan]

I can see him in Houston being a very good fit, instant RB1 for that team.

"HI Fred, this is Bellicheat. We need info on Romans offense. "

Seriously, BB likes smart vets.

[SpikedLemonade]

Be honest: Do you REALLY think the Bills will keep Bryce Brown? If I were on the Bills coaching staff, I certainly wouldn't. Dixon is higher on the depth chart.

If they believe Brown has overcome his fumbling issues, I see them keeping him. He is still relatively young and has a huge upside.

[streetkings01]

I remember Bill Bilichick talking really foundly of FJ. Hrs definitely someone Bill would have signedWho doesnt the hoody talk foundly of? I remember him giving a glowing endorsement for Dick Jauron after we hired him.

[Night Train]

McCoy and Williams better run for a ton of yards or this could bite them in the arse. He could have stayed for this year.

Cut Fred, yet consider Cassel to start at QB.

Incredible.

[Ginger Vitis]

Thanks for the memories Fred still one of the best backs in the NFL at picking up the blitz he still has value of this team

[WagonCircler]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/589x781q90/537/81R2dt.jpg

[ghz in pittsburgh]

So Bryce Brown is safe?

[Jimkelly12203]

It might be a respectful thing the Bills are doing for him too, knowing he's not going to start for us, release him now outright instead of dangling him on for a trade (which we could've), and let him have a say on where he wants to go.**** this! It's not often that a personnel move by your favorite sports team literally makes you want to cry. This is garbage!

[Aggie]

What the ****?

[Dozerdog]

That means Shady and Karlos are 1 and 2. Is Rex honestly trying to tell me that Fred is behind Boobie or Bryce "fumble" Brown ?? Common man! With the leadership he brings and toughness no way he couldn't be kept as the 3.

This is just wrong.


I think what they are saying is if you are 2 or 3 on the depth chart, $2.5 million is too much

[Victor7]

I actually think the Bills are doing him a favor by releasing him, knowing he was going to be stuck on the bench. After such a good showing yesterday, his stocks are high and they let him go out like that. I don't think it's a diss at all.

I respectfully disagree. Front offices love to say that. We are releasing him now out of respect so he can catch up elsewhere. Bull crap ! You just fired the man. What respect ??

Our team has suffered its fair share of injuries so far. I'm not sure Fred was going to just be riding the pine on the bench. One bad hit to Karlos or Shady (both of which have been hurt in the preseason) and its Fred time. Boobie and Brown are not as good.

[justasportsfan]

17489



Turns out Pegula was actually the riddler pretending to be batman early this year when there was talk about trading FJ.

Now I will never trust what comes out of Pegulas mouth because of this. Business first.

[Novacane]

I don't get it. I like Williams but we're keeping Bryce Brown over Freddie? This is a WTF move to me.

[ckg927]

I don't get it. I like Williams but we're keeping Bryce Brown over Freddie? This is a WTF move to me.

Brown's going next.

[Novacane]

Brown's going next.

So who's 3?

[Victor7]

This reeks of Whaley standing up for his man love Bryce Brown. He gave up picks for him.

**** Whaley man. And Rex too.

[Jimkelly12203]

So who's 3?
Probably keeping Felton and John Connor if Brown is gone. And Brown SHOULD be gone after this atrocity.

[Skooby]

We brought in McCoy and have young / talented lets to fill in the balance, so I'd plan on us being serious about winning versus making friends.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

This is a really sad day, I know FJ was getting up there and I have a feeling a lot of this was about $$ (Bills saved $2.7 million by cutting him) but this just sucks. FJax was the only bright spot through a lot of dark times in Buffalo and to let him go after all the work he has put in right when the Bills are on the upswing is just crushing. This man played for the Bills for 10 years not making a single playoff game and now that he could finally be on a team to make it there they cut him without even seeing if he would take less money.

Damn.

[Jimkelly12203]

I don't think McCoy is going to start more than 8 games all year. Williams is probably going to carry the load. We needed Fred. Brown is inadequate. Keeping two FBs is unnecessary. Kick off specialists? a 3rd QB (from this list of stellar choices). This move blows.

[gebobs]

In the thread we discussed this earlier this year, I was incredulous that anyone could think it and never thought the Bills would do this.

Man was I wrong.

[ckg927]

So who's 3?

My guess? Dixon.

[ckg927]

Further update: Most of you know that Fred Jackson has a weekly show on WBBZ during the season. Bradley Gelber(who's the social media whiz on the show)just tweeted: "For folks asking me about the show...we're in standby mode for the time being. I'll update you when we know more."

[Victor7]

We are supposed to be a run heavy team. Both Shady and Karlos. And Brown and Dixon for that matter have gotten hurt. This makes no sense.

Fred put in all the hard work for years and got to no playoff games. And now that it appears we might have a pretty good shot this happens. Bull**** move by Rex.

[Ingtar33]

Sad, very sad.

[starrymessenger]

Be honest: Do you REALLY think the Bills will keep Bryce Brown? If I were on the Bills coaching staff, I certainly wouldn't. Dixon is higher on the depth chart.
Yes I think that. I interpreted Rex's early broadside against Brown as saying "hold on to the f***ing ball, you jerk - because I know you can play" instead of "your not here for long", as many did. My guess is they go with four backs, including Dixon and Brown. Maybe Bronson and/or Woods to the PS.
Fred is one of the greatest Bills of all time when you look not only at what he could do on the field but what his leadership meant to the team. Before he broke his leg that year with Fitz in Chan's offence he was probably in the top 2 or 3 backs in the League. He's still got the vision and pass blocking but he's a 34 year old back and his legs are pretty much gone. He used to score easily on that 40 + yard scamper against Pitt. Not any more. Can he still play? Sure but the Bills have some very tough decisions to make, and this was not the last.

[justasportsfan]

looks like they don't need FJax's blocking skills.

[Victor7]

looks like they don't need FJax's blocking skills.

Yup. One of the best in the league at it.

We are gonna be missing him around week 5-7 when injuries start to hit us and none of our guys can pick up a ****ing blitz on an important 3rd down.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

I just have this sickening feeling that he's going to end up in New York or New England and he's going to make us pay for this

[JoeMama]

Beware F-Jax in a Patriots uniform.

That's all I have to say about this bull**** decision.

[djjimkelly]

so they like boobie dixon more then freddie lol.

but so be it freddie doesnt have much left in the tank. id still take him over dixon any day

classy guy gl fred

[gebobs]

Beware F-Jax in a Patriots uniform.

That's all I have to say about this bull**** decision.

No way he clears waivers for 30 other teams.

[Forward_Lateral]

I'm done with this team.

[imbondz]

At least were consistent in never making sense. Can't stand this move.

[HHURRICANE]

Could easily see Fred Jackson in a Patriots uniform.

[X-Era]

From a purely football perspective this makes sense.

[Forward_Lateral]

From a purely football perspective this makes sense.

How? They have zero healthy running backs after Fred. This makes no sense whatsoever. This organization continues to take a giant crap on players who've given everything.

[JoeMama]

No way he clears waivers for 30 other teams.

I thought according to the new CBA, any veteran that has completed four seasons in the NFL and is released between Feb 1 and the trading deadline in Oct, they don't go on the waivers, they simply become unrestricted free agents.

Because correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure Fred Jackson isn't subject to the waiver claim process.

[Buddo]

From a purely football perspective this makes sense.

No, it doesn't. Fred is comfortably the 2nd best RB on the roster, when it comes to all around capability, i.e. receiving and blocking. Williams for sure looks like a good one for the future, and can contribute this season no doubt, but the rest of them aren't fit to hold Fred's jock. What on earth are they doing with three full backs? I like Dixon, but he's pretty much a FB rather than a RB.

[JoeMama]

Yep, Freddie isn't subject to waivers. He can go to wherever.

*cough* Patriots *cough*

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/3/5351372/2014-nfl-waiver-wire-how-it-works-guide

[Buffalogic]

Told you.

[Mr. Miyagi]

https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/hqYNGk2Z5N2SocBI8gf8iYUhFPA=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3481946/Fred-ThankYou.0.png

[Night Train]

The only justification is Williams and Dixon also play ST's. Easley is making the team for his ST's play. Gay may stick since he does kick the ball deep, which Carpenter cannot do.

Ran out of luxury slots and remaining guys must play ST's.

[Mr. Miyagi]

DON'T GO TO NEW ENGLAND, THAT'S ALL I ASK!!!!!

[gebobs]

I thought according to the new CBA, any veteran that has completed four seasons in the NFL and is released between Feb 1 and the trading deadline in Oct, they don't go on the waivers, they simply become unrestricted free agents.

Because correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure Fred Jackson isn't subject to the waiver claim process.

I stand corrected.

[Night Train]

If this is all about saving $$, then Cassel should be gone after the Detroit game.

[gr8slayer]

He'll win a ring with NE this year.

[HHURRICANE]

Can we stop the belly aching here for a moment. This was a good decision. We have one of the most taleneted young rosters in the league. Every roster spot is important. No team is paying their #3 RB 2.5 million dollars. Karlos can run, he can catch, and he is 12 years younger. I love Fred but keeping a roster spot who most likely was playing his last year, although nice, is not worth cutting a guy with years ahead of him as a Bill. When the 53 man roster comes out than you can tell me excatly what player Fred should have taken the spot over.

[DraftBoy]

Absolutely disgusted with this move.

Guy played for pennies for years here and now he's just cut. Sad...

[casdhf]

Can we stop the belly aching here for a moment. This was a good decision. We have one of the most taleneted young rosters in the league. Every roster spot is important. No team is paying their #3 RB 2.5 million dollars. Karlos can run, he can catch, and he is 12 years younger. I love Fred but keeping a roster spot who most likely was playing his last year, although nice, is not worth cutting a guy with years ahead of him as a Bill. When the 53 man roster comes out than you can tell me excatly what player Fred should have taken the spot over. If Jordan Gay sticks, you'll have a pretty weak argument.

[Forward_Lateral]

Absolutely disgusted with this move.

Guy played for pennies for years here and now he's just cut. Sad...

I hope hope hope hope that they sat down with FJ and said you can either stay here and be the 3rd RB, or we can release you if you want. That's the ONLY way I will be ok with it.

[Novacane]

17489



Turns out Pegula was actually the riddler pretending to be batman early this year when there was talk about trading FJ.

Now I will never trust what comes out of Pegulas mouth because of this. Business first.




Pegula seems like a fan. I bet he's sick about this but is doing what an owner should do. Let the coaches make the decision. I hate this move but would you want Pegula being Snyder or Jones and telling his coaches who's going to make the team? I wouldn't! Be mad at Rex Roman and Whaley.

[Buffalogic]

Long overdue. Guy is always hurt, old, and makes too much. Appreciate what he did for us for years but glad the bills finally did what should have been done a couple yeas ago.

[HHURRICANE]

If Jordan Gay sticks, you'll have a pretty weak argument.

Like I said...when the 53 man roster comes out than make your case. Until then it looks like a solid decision. No team carries 5 running backs. Even if you hate Bryce Brown his upside long term is still better than a guy who is in his last year of playing.

[swiper]

Per Vic Carucci and Sal Capaccio.

https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/638352984473251840

https://twitter.com/SalSports/status/638353247791616000

Wow. I did not see this coming at all. I wanted Fred to retire in a Bills uniform and I thought he had earned that right

Wow. This must have happened fast. I'm gone for a couple of hours (working) and there's already 5 pages on the topic.

Sad to see the Bills chose the wrong QB. And let go the closest thing to a superstar they had.

[gr8slayer]

ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss wouldn't rule out the Patriots making a run at free agent Fred Jackson.

[swiper]

If this is all about saving $$, then Cassel should be gone after the Detroit game.

But Ralph is dead and gone. And Pegula said money won't get in their way. Not buying this argument.

[chernobylwraiths]

The only justification is Williams and Dixon also play ST's. Easley is making the team for his ST's play. Gay may stick since he does kick the ball deep, which Carpenter cannot do.

Ran out of luxury slots and remaining guys must play ST's.

F that! Carpenter hit 6 50 yard field goals last year. Let him kick and make Easley earn his paycheck.

I would hate to see Fred lose his roster spot because of an extra kicker.

[swiper]

DON'T GO TO NEW ENGLAND, THAT'S ALL I ASK!!!!!

FU. Why shouldn't he?

[chernobylwraiths]

I hope hope hope hope that they sat down with FJ and said you can either stay here and be the 3rd RB, or we can release you if you want. That's the ONLY way I will be ok with it.

I only hope that they discussed it with him. "Fred, realistically, you have one year left in our opinion. We would love to have you, but we want to know if you want a chance to hook onto a superbowl contender and play a more significant role, or just be a role player here. Decision is all yours"

Eh, I doubt it.

[YardRat]

Ryan, Pegula and Whaley can all eat a super-sized bag of dicks. If this team keeps four RB's, there are three that should still be lower on the depth chart. Even if he is third or fourth, you keep him around for leadership. The 53-man roster excuse is complete bull**** considering SEVEN of that 53 are inactive every Sunday anyway. FJax can add more to this team inactive, in street clothes, than some scrub linebacker, dback or WR that will probably be gone next year anyway.

**** this move, I hate it. Freddie deserved better.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

FJax can add more to this team inactive, in street clothes, than some scrub linebacker, dback or WR that will probably be gone next year anyway.

Then he can be an assistant coach, which is what I've been suggesting we offer him for months.

[gr8slayer]

Clearing up money for Dareus.

[YardRat]

Then he can be an assistant coach, which is what I've been suggesting we offer him for months.

Then it should have been an immediate transition. I'd be OK with that (maybe) if that's how it was handled.

[Mr. Pink]

After the work he put in to actually get to the NFL level and toiling 9 years here in football hell, I hope he ends up in New England and gets a chance at a ring.

[Mr. Cynical]

This is total BS. All the guy does is deliver, hence the name FredEx. Seriously, when has he not come through when the team needed him? He may not be a 1,000 rusher, but he is CLUTCH. So basically the exact OPPOSITE of Brown the Fumbler. SMDH.

Anyway, can't cry over spilt milk, so in the spirit of looking at the positives, I agree with Mr. Pink. I will cross my fingers for him to go at least to the playoffs with another team that is NOT in the AFCE.

Good luck to you Freddy. You've been my favorite Bill since The Drought started in 2000.

[MidnightVoice]

As a dezinen of that area of the country in which Coe College exists - damn shame.

[justasportsfan]

From a purely football perspective this makes sense.lets talk about what we know and not what we hope....

going into the season with ONE PROVEN rb especially when we are supposed to run all day makes sense to you? It also makes sense to you when the top 3 rb's are injured and we let the only healthy PROVEN one go ?

Really?

[Mr. Pink]

lets talk about what we know and not what we hope....

going into the season with ONE PROVEN rb especially when we are supposed to run all day makes sense to you? It also makes sense to you when the top 3 rb's are injured and we let the only healthy PROVEN one go ?

Really?

Don't forget they let the only one who can block worth a damn go.

[justasportsfan]

Don't forget they let the only one who can block worth a damn go.

my guess is that they are keeping 2 fb's?

[Meathead]

totally saw this coming

totally predicted it months ago

bc thats just how freakin awesome i totally am

love ya freddie. hope you retire but i dont expect you to. good luck except against us

[Meathead]

totally the right move too

[Mace]

my guess is that they are keeping 2 fb's?

Would be woeful if they kept Connor over Jackson who was more of a running threat and blocked as well anyway.

All I'll say is that the old dude still has more game and will than any of the backs we have left. Can you really see any of those remaining pulling last years ferocious stiff arms for more yards, or trotting out of bounds instead ? He may not be the youngest, or fastest, but he was the 2nd best proven back we had.

Annoys me. No helping it.

[HHURRICANE]

lets talk about what we know and not what we hope....

going into the season with ONE PROVEN rb especially when we are supposed to run all day makes sense to you? It also makes sense to you when the top 3 rb's are injured and we let the only healthy PROVEN one go ?

Really?

Your being a little dramatic here. All the running backs are all on schedule to be ready for the opener. It's not like they all have broken ankles or ACLs. There are still 4 running backs on this team. We've gone years with 3.

For the record I could argue that Fred was the 4th back if Bryce hangs on to the ball.

[Meathead]

dont hate me cuz im pwngful

[coastal]

Thank God we have Mario "Fool's Gold" Williams and his "I'm not here to be a leader" super-sized contract.

[Meathead]

so now the fun question is what did rexy know and when did he know it? lol

like did rexy know all along he was going to time freddies release with this leak, or did the idea just hit him recently. either way its an awesome move to counter the inevitable wailing and gnashing of teeth the would come after cutting mr buffalo bills

where did stevie go again? sd? maybe freddie could go there for a year. melvin gordon is their starting tailback. im so outta touch idk who that even is. but backing him up is danny woodhead. yeah im not kidding. fred can beat him out

[starrymessenger]

But Ralph is dead and gone. And Pegula said money won't get in their way. Not buying this argument.
Your right. The Pegs don't nickel and dime anyone. This was 100% a football decision. Many will argue, with some justification, that it was the wrong decision. Others will disagree. But it wasn't just about dollars.

[Meathead]

google auto results says hes signed with the rams but i have zero confidence in that so fyi

[feldspar]

The Freddie love has always been over the top. I've always extremely liked the guy, but he doesn't walk on water. People give him a little too much credit, to say the least. Blasphemy, I know...

I'm startled and saddened, but I'll get over it.

Him and Kyle Williams came to the Bills the same year...those two have been here the longest.

[Meathead]

shade rook boobs 2fb plus whatever the hell they ask the tes to do back there. thats plenty

[jamze132]

Sad day in Billsland.

I know he was the oldest RB in the NFL but he wasn't our worst. I can't wait to see all the details...

[Ingtar33]

The Freddie love has always been over the top. I've always extremely liked the guy, but he doesn't walk on water. People give him a little too much credit, to say the least. Blasphemy, I know...

I'm startled and saddened, but I'll get over it.

Him and Kyle Williams came to the Bills the same year...those two have been here the longest.

I think the fact the bills drafted 2 first round running backs in the time Freddie was here, and they couldn't force freddie off the field said it all about fred jackson. The team kept looking for better and never could find it. Granted one guy left town because he's a wreck off the field (on it, beastmode is beastmode) the other because we drafted a 3rd down gadget back to be a no.1; ugh this team makes me sick sometimes.

Still I loved FJ, moderately talented running back with top tier vision and balance; and the willingness to do anything for the team. Never *****ed about playing time, never really *****ed about his teammates, or the organisation. pure class.

[feldspar]

I think the fact the bills drafted 2 first round running backs in the time Freddie was here, and they couldn't force freddie off the field said it all about fred jackson. The team kept looking for better and never could find it. Granted one guy left town because he's a wreck off the field (on it, beastmode is beastmode) the other because we drafted a 3rd down gadget back to be a no.1; ugh this team makes me sick sometimes.

Still I loved FJ, moderately talented running back with top tier vision and balance; and the willingness to do anything for the team. Never *****ed about playing time, never really *****ed about his teammates, or the organisation. pure class.

Trading Lynch for a 4th round pick was way worse than letting Freddie go to me.

[Mr. Miyagi]

It's been half a day with this news and I still cannot believe it. This has to be just a dream. No way this is happening.

[streetkings01]

It's been half a day with this news and I still cannot believe it. This has to be just a dream. No way this is happening.It is and I applaud it. Fjax at best as been a #2/#3 guy the past couple seasons..........he's slowed down alot and is always fighting some kind of injury. You should never get older at the running back position , you should always look to get younger.

[Mr. Miyagi]

It is and I applaud it. Fjax at best as been a #2/#3 guy the past couple seasons..........he's slowed down alot and is always fighting some kind of injury. You should never get older at the running back position , you should always look to get younger.
He looked pretty damn good to me in that 37 yard almost-TD run on Saturday.

[streetkings01]

He looked pretty damn good to me in that 37 yard almost-TD run on Saturday.Yup.......coming off another injury.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Yup.......coming off another injury.

Right.. Like the rest of our running back corps

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

just to throw salt in the wound

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/31/fred-jackson-would-have-done-anything-to-retire-with-bills/

[X-Era]

How? They have zero healthy running backs after Fred. This makes no sense whatsoever. This organization continues to take a giant crap on players who've given everything.Roster health is the only issue I have with this.

We have enough solid RB's on the team to let a 34 year old vet go. If he was even 30 I would call this move stupid.

It's not going to be a fan favorite but it's a solid football move.

[Night Train]

I was all for keeping Fred for 1 more year. The supposed logic ?

Fred was seen as the #3 RB and if no injuries occurred, he would just be a cheerleader with no contribution to ST's, unlike Williams and Dixon who will definitely be out there on ST's. Plus Williams had passed him on the depth chart.

I can't say I'm shocked, just disappointed that a class act and beloved player is leaving. I hope he goes somewhere with touches coming his way. He deserves that. I just hope it's not the Pats or Fins.

I saw Thurman for a short time in a Fins uniform, Reed in a Falcons jersey, Bruce in a Skins jersey. Didn't seem right but this isn't unprecedented. This is a different Bills era with actual promise. This roster was reshaped like never before with actual talent.

It will take a while to accept. I see Fred being a great candidate to coach in the near future. The respect would be immediate.

Fred will be fine and I'll miss him. The Wall will have his name up there shortly.

Go Bills !

[X-Era]

After the work he put in to actually get to the NFL level and toiling 9 years here in football hell, I hope he ends up in New England and gets a chance at a ring.Belichump loves him I think it's likely. And yes it's even likely he finally gets into the playoffs and beyond in NE which is what he deserves for all his hard work on the field.

[JoeMama]

I hope F-Jax goes to a contender and wins a Super Bowl. Even if it's with the hated Patriots.

Dude deserves better than what our incompetent, small potatoes organization did today.

On his 37 yard sprint, he only outran like 7 guys who were a decade younger than him... but no, we need to use his roster spot for one of the "young" guys that never get hurt -- who ironically are ALL hurt right now.

Or a "kickoff specialist".

Makes ****ing sense to me!

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[X-Era]

I wonder if the added cap room is to make a play at RG3 who probably will get released. The next step would be an EJ move... trade or release.

[BertSquirtgum]

bad things man

[The Jokeman]

Trading Lynch for a 4th round pick was way worse than letting Freddie go to me.

Agreed but speaking of did the Chargers keep Chris Hairston?

[The Jokeman]

I wonder if the added cap room is to make a play at RG3 who probably will get released. The next step would be an EJ move... trade or release.

I hope you're kidding, RGIII has had two HC problems, hasn't shown improved play from his rookie season, has shown he can't stand in the pocket and coming off a concussion. Say what you want but right now EJ > RGIII.

[Night Train]

Cleveland is hurting for RB's and the belief is they'll claim him off waivers.

[JoeMama]

Cleveland is hurting for RB's and the belief is they'll claim him off waivers.

Waivers don't apply to F-Jax per the CBA. He's unrestricted.

[Novacane]

I hope F-Jax goes to a contender and wins a Super Bowl. Even if it's with the hated Patriots.

Dude deserves better than what our incompetent, small potatoes organization did today.

On his 37 yard sprint, he only outran like 7 guys who were a decade younger than him... but no, we need to use his roster spot for one of the "young" guys that never get hurt -- who ironically are ALL hurt right now.

Or a "kickoff specialist".

Makes ****ing sense to me!

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I love FJ as much as anyone. No way I'm rooting for him if he becomes a cheater. No way in hell.

[The Jokeman]

Cleveland is hurting for RB's and the belief is they'll claim him off waivers.

I don't think Fred qualifies for waivers because since he's played more than 4 years in the league. He's free to sign wherever he wants/to whomever wants him.

[Mr. Pink]

If Fred wants to get carries and still be the feature back, he'll go to Cleveland. Terrance West and Isaiah Crowell won't stop that.

If Fred wants to actually win, he'll end up somewhere like New England or Dallas - just two teams I've heard have interest in him.

Fred's already toiled in football hell for 9 years, why go to another team and do it again?

[The Jokeman]

If Fred wants to get carries and still be the feature back, he'll go to Cleveland. Terrance West and Isaiah Crowell won't stop that.

If Fred wants to actually win, he'll end up somewhere like New England or Dallas - just two teams I've heard have interest in him.

Fred's already toiled in football hell for 9 years, why go to another team and do it again?

He might also want to try Tennessee as their backfield isn't that great.

[JoeMama]

I love FJ as much as anyone. No way I'm rooting for him if he becomes a cheater. No way in hell.

I'm just saying...

If there's room on our roster for Jordan Gay and not Fred Jackson, then **** it, maybe there's a reason the Pats continually tally up rings while we tally up losing seasons?

Because what we did today was bush league -- and deep down -- I think everyone here knows it, whether they're willing to admit it or not.

I hope F-Jax goes to a winner and gets his ring ala Don Beebe back in 97.

[Famous Amos]

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[DynaPaul]

Freddy was the heart of this offense. God bless him. I think the organization is making a mistake with this release but we have no control over it.

[Mr. Cynical]

I'm wondering if there's more to the story that we just don't know yet. Like, did Fred kill Whaley's dog? Drive over his Big Wheel? It's not the $, and I don't think it's his ability. Something smells.

[Mace]

I'm just saying...

If there's room on our roster for Jordan Gay and not Fred Jackson, then **** it, maybe there's a reason the Pats continually tally up rings while we tally up losing seasons?

Honestly yeah, character and people buying into "team" under Belichicks iron, but proven and impartial fist.

I suppose my biggest concern is why they were in such a rush to get rid of him before the season and first round of cuts. I don't really see the leadership standard they're meaning to put in place under Ryan. They're brought in a bunch of "issue" players. I can't really see how a big mean guy like Karlos Williams couldn't have learned a few things about playing fierce with discipline from Jackson, or how Jackson wouldn't have had the chops to mitigate McCoy's ever running mouth with all the painful tough yards he's earned.

For all the love I have for the Bills teams of the 90's, they always ended up lacking something fundamental in the crunch at the big dance. I just don't think the teams that destroyed them were that much more skilled and talented. You can have the most talented team in the world, but it comes down to character and discipline.

It's just my opinion, but I think it goes past Jackson, Pegula/Ryan/Whaley are assembling a shooting star that will burn bright as far as Ryan's initial leadership takes them, then shortly dissolve into a wave of problems, issues, fights and arguments that crumbles them sure as the Jets became a circus.

Like I say, to me it's not really all about Jackson, but a smelly iffy, standard they hurry to embrace like they're immune to the obvious. For such a nice guy, Pegula really seems to like to swim in dirty water with his franchises.

Maybe it pays off with championships, I don't know. I'm sure getting the feeling though the Buffalo franchises are heading back into heartbreaking could'ves should'ves and would'ves before starting over yet again.

[jimmifli]

http://prod.video.bills.clubs.nfl.com//BUF/videos/dct/video_audio/2015/08-August/083115whaleyonjackson-500k.mp4

[BillsImpossible]

Fred Jackson got shot by the cap hit drive by.

Too much money for a 3rd string running back, simple as that.

Karlos Williams was better than Jackson in training camp and he's 12 years younger.

For those who like to mourn, get out your tissues.

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[YardRat]

Roster health is the only issue I have with this.

We have enough solid RB's on the team to let a 34 year old vet go. If he was even 30 I would call this move stupid.

It's not going to be a fan favorite but it's a solid football move.

Fred Jackson is still a better RB than Brown, Dixon and Williams. 'Football move' is the absolute worst rationalization anybody could attempt to use to justify the cut.

Ryan better plan on keeping all three QB's, and Simms on the PS, because chances are two of them are going to get killed on a failed blitz pick-up.

[Mace]

Fred Jackson got shot by the cap hit drive by.

Too much money for a 3rd string running back, simple as that.

Karlos Williams was better than Jackson in training camp and he's 12 years younger.

2.35 million for 2015. That's worth John Connor, Matthew Mulligan, Bryce Brown, Matt Simms and IK Enempkpali in the first round of cuts and let's be honest, none of them are going to come up in the crunch memorably.

[Turf]

I think Fred's still nursing that hamstring and he and the trainers and coaching staff are not in agreement as to his recovery time. And being 34, well...
That being said I still think he can play injured pretty well. But is that what you want.

[Mace]

I think Fred's still nursing that hamstring and he and the trainers and coaching staff are not in agreement as to his recovery time. And being 34, well...
That being said I still think he can play injured pretty well. But is that what you want.

I dunno. After watching a nature made fish oil commercial I found a highlight of his Pittsburgh 41 yard run and it didn't look like an old running back running on a bad hamstring. From what I remember of backs running on bad hamstrings they never make it far past 10 yards and falling down with one leg not working real well.

[Meathead]

id love it if freddy retired tbh. thats one guaranteed way to end a bill. but of course im not expecting it. what i am expecting is that he gets picked up, has impressive spot duty for a spell, then pulls something and isnt available. sad but true. thats what the coaches dont want to roll the dice on

i hope he gets to pass a few more final milestones in however remaining games he can contribute. the ultimate cool would be for him to just retire then unretire later in the season to get those records with the bills and go to the playoffs with them. and then morgan fairchild would marry me and give me two babies. yeah thats the ticket

[Mace]

id love it if freddy retired tbh. thats one guaranteed way to end a bill. but of course im not expecting it. what i am expecting is that he gets picked up, has impressive spot duty for a spell, then pulls something and isnt available. sad but true. thats what the coaches dont want to roll the dice on

i hope he gets to pass a few more final milestones in however remaining games he can contribute. the ultimate cool would be for him to just retire then unretire later in the season to get those records with the bills and go to the playoffs with them. and then morgan fairchild would marry me and give me two babies. yeah thats the ticket

You do realize he caught 66 passes last year, more than Watkins or Woods, with the stiff arm play ? That's sort of productive ?

I sort of get the idea people are thinking the name is old news and get tired of hearing it without actually paying attention to the games.

[Oaf]

I'd like to hear Paladin Warrior's thoughts on all this.

[Meathead]

definitely true that freddie has broken the mold a bunch of times, including leading his team in recepts and rushing yds and being an all around awesome guy. but even his mold eventually has to be broken. at this point every season, every game could be his last. coaches are saying they dont want to take that risk this time. i can understand that

[Mace]

definitely true that freddie has broken the mold a bunch of times, including leading his team in recepts and rushing yds and being an all around awesome guy. but even his mold eventually has to be broken. at this point every season, every game could be his last. coaches are saying they dont want to take that risk this time. i can understand that

Same thing. 66 receptions last year. You'd think a Roman offense would want a back who can catch dumpoffs yeah ?

Here's a list : http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/bycategory?cat=Receiving&conference=NFL&year=season_2014&timeframe=All&sort=27&old_category=Receiving

One back caught more passes unless I missed someone. One. It wasn't anyone we have on our roster. Jackson caught more passes than Larry Fitzgerald. Last year. The stiff arm year. Kind of productive you think ? You weren't paying attention. The 41 yd run showed you he lost a step last week.

You're trying too hard to pretend to be controversial.

So is he worse with 66 catches last year and the stiff arm play, than Bryce Brown, Boobie Dixon or John Connor atm when you mean to make it all about winning games ? How do you figure ?

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Same thing. 66 receptions last year. You'd think a Roman offense would want a back who can catch dumpoffs yeah ?

Not really. Roman doesn't throw many passes to the backs. In 4 years as San Francisco's OC, they were barely used that way. In 2014, for example, the Bills targeted 145 passes to backs and 90 to Fred. San Francisco targeted 64 to all their backs combined. Frank Gore only had 113 passes thrown his way the whole 4 years Roman was coaching him.

Just look at our own offense this year. Of our 62 completions, only 9 have gone to backs. Fred Jackson had 13 catches alone in the last preseason.

[Oaf]

id love it if freddy retired tbh. thats one guaranteed way to end a bill. but of course im not expecting it. what i am expecting is that he gets picked up, has impressive spot duty for a spell, then pulls something and isnt available. sad but true. thats what the coaches dont want to roll the dice on

i hope he gets to pass a few more final milestones in however remaining games he can contribute. the ultimate cool would be for him to just retire then unretire later in the season to get those records with the bills and go to the playoffs with them. and then morgan fairchild would marry me and give me two babies. yeah thats the ticket

As much as I hate to see it, God forbid a back get injured.. love to see FJ back in the fold a la Moorman.

[TacklingDummy]

Every year Bills fans hated on Fred, gave him no respect, and he always proved he was the best running back on the roster.

[TacklingDummy]

After the work he put in to actually get to the NFL level and toiling 9 years here in football hell, I hope he ends up in New England and gets a chance at a ring.

Remember it was just you and I pimping Action Jackson for years?

So many haters.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Remember it was just you and I pimping Action Jackson for years?

So many haters.


Im not so sure you can honestly say that given the overall sentiment on the board after his release. We are all for the most part down about this. No hatorade here

[TacklingDummy]

Im not so sure you can honestly say that given the overall sentiment on the board after his release. We are all for the most part down about this. No hatorade here

It took people years to give Fred the respect he deserved.

Mr. Pink and I were the main posters who said Fred was the best running back on the roster at the time when he was competing against McGahee, Lynch, and Spiller. There were many haters and still was going into this year.

The Bills were just afraid of Fred upstaging the $40 million dollar windbag.

[YardRat]

I'm wondering if there's more to the story that we just don't know yet. Like, did Fred kill Whaley's dog? Drive over his Big Wheel? It's not the $, and I don't think it's his ability. Something smells.

Considering that releasing Freddie was one of the first big 'stories' of this past off season shortly after Ryan was hired you might be right.

[swiper]

It took people years to give Fred the respect he deserved.

Mr. Pink and I were the main posters who said Fred was the best running back on the roster at the time when he was competing against McGahee, Lynch, and Spiller. There were many haters and still was going into this year.

Must have been before I was a member here. I've always been a vocal Fred fan. He's one of my all time favorites. In an NFL that's more messed up than ever, he shines through as a true giant among other lesser men. I'm just flabbergasted that the Bills have the gall to cut him after that performance against Pittsburgh.

[chris66]

He doesn't though, he has to clear waivers. He could end up in frickin Jacksonville.

He is a tenured vet. He doesnt have to clear waivers

[Night Train]

ProFootballTalk: Fred Jackson heading to Seattle, expected to sign with Seahawks http://t.co/FtsZebD2XXvia @RapSheet

[Mahdi]

ProFootballTalk: Fred Jackson heading to Seattle, expected to sign with Seahawks http://t.co/FtsZebD2XXvia @RapSheet


Good for him. What a combo that would be. You're welcome Seattle.

Lynch on first and second, Jackson on third.

[cookie G]

ProFootballTalk: Fred Jackson heading to Seattle, expected to sign with Seahawks http://t.co/FtsZebD2XXvia @RapSheet


We didn't even get a 4th for him.

You could end your career in worse places Fred..enjoy the hawks.

[Kenny]

hmmm... how does he fit in Seattle.
Lynch, Turbin, and Michael are already there.

[justasportsfan]

Your being a little dramatic here. All the running backs are all on schedule to be ready for the opener. It's not like they all have broken ankles or ACLs. There are still 4 running backs on this team. We've gone years with 3.

For the record I could argue that Fred was the 4th back if Bryce hangs on to the ball.

only 1 of those runningbacks are proven. McCoy is proven , Williams is a rookie , Dixon is half the player FJ is and Bryce Brown is a proven fumbler. I hope they all get better but anyone who thinks that having PROVEN players is a bad thing must've have a concussion.

[Oaf]

It took people years to give Fred the respect he deserved.

Mr. Pink and I were the main posters who said Fred was the best running back on the roster at the time when he was competing against McGahee, Lynch, and Spiller. There were many haters and still was going into this year.

The Bills were just afraid of Fred upstaging the $40 million dollar windbag.

I remember those sentiments.. "Fred's a great backup but … "

Imagine us saving on first rounders in 2007 and 2011 and simply trusting Jackson all the way through.

[TacklingDummy]

I remember those sentiments.. "Fred's a great backup but … "

Imagine us saving on first rounders in 2007 and 2011 and simply trusting Jackson all the way through.
Word.

Instead of Lynch we could have had Revis.

Instead of Spillwr we could have had Dez Bryant, Earl Thomas, JPP, Demaryius Thomas, Pouncey, Gronkowski.

[BillsImpossible]

What good does dwelling on the past do?

[Mr. Pink]

Word.

Instead of Lynch we could have had Revis.

Instead of Spillwr we could have had Dez Bryant, Earl Thomas, JPP, Demaryius Thomas, Pouncey, Gronkowski.

Dez Bryant should be on this roster right now.

Which means Sammy Watkins isn't here and who knows what possibility that opens up in the past 2 drafts.

And we would have never had to deal with a poor man's version of Reggie Bush.

Dez was the guy I wanted going into that draft and that's no different today.

[BertSquirtgum]

I still haven't gotten over the beast mode trade. Dumbest move of Buddy Nix's tenure. Now both of my favorite players are gone.

Scratch that. Dumbest move was trading up for TJ Graham and not RW.

[BillsImpossible]

I still haven't gotten over the beast mode trade. Dumbest move of Buddy Nix's tenure. Now both of my favorite players are gone.

Scratch that. Dumbest move was trading up for TJ Graham and not RW.

That's because you're stuck in a moment that you can't get out of called the past.

Keep dwelling on the past, loser.

[BertSquirtgum]

That's because you're stuck in a moment that you can't get out of called the past.

Keep dwelling on the past, loser.

Get off my nuts clown.

[djjimkelly]

love freddy but the parting shots are IMO classless

[swiper]

Must have been before I was a member here. I've always been a vocal Fred fan. He's one of my all time favorites. In an NFL that's more messed up than ever, he shines through as a true giant among other lesser men. I'm just flabbergasted that the Bills have the gall to cut him after that performance against Pittsburgh.

Now the decision looks even dumber as it is being reported that the Bills are "worried" that McCoy won't be ready to go week #1.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/02/report-bills-concerned-lesean-mccoy-wont-be-healthy-for-week-1/

The dumb-down tree: Pegula - Brandon - Whaley - Ryan

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love freddy but the parting shots are IMO classless

Why? Because the GM lied to him? LOL.