Rumor: Matt Cassel Is Going To Get Cut Next, Percy Harvin Too

[BillsImpossible]

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With QB Tyrod Taylor starting for #Bills (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash) in Week 1, expect that either Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel will not be on Buffalo’s roster by then.
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I know that Rex said he expects all 3 QB's to make the roster, but it's all about the money and expectations are different than results.

Just like a 3rd string 34 year old running back in Fred Jackson making $2.5 million, the Bills can't afford to keep a 33 year old backup quarterback in Matt Cassel on the roster for $4.75 million.

He has experience. So what? How much experience did Brady, Roethlisberger, Kaepernick, or Wilson have when they went to their first Super Bowls?

Cassel was given every chance to succeed and show signs of significant improvement in his game all throughout training camp.

Cassel started with the first team offense every single day of training camp, got the majority of reps and had the best opportunity to show he deserves to start.

He didn't play in the 2nd preseason game against the Browns (after having a horrible practice), and saw only two series on offense in the 3rd preseason game against the Steelers. Huh?

Why so little playing time for a guy who was literally being, "groomed," and was expected to be the starting quarterback for the Bills?

Because Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel showed significant signs of improvement in training camp and preseason, and Matt Cassel did not.

I think Tyrod Taylor has already taken EJ Manuel under his wing and will help him learn to fly.

Maybe that's why EJ did so well last Saturday night? The kid is learning. I wouldn't doubt Tyrod Taylor is helping EJ learn the game.

Many great NFL quarterbacks have said that it takes at least 3 years to understand how an NFL offense works, and they're still learning.

[YardRat]

I don't see anything at all about Harvin...did I miss something?

[Jaybird]

i wish we could cut some people from this board

[BillsImpossible]

I don't see anything at all about Harvin...did I miss something?

Harvin is due to make $4 million this year, and he's not the 2nd WR.

Can't make the club in the tub making that kind of cash, Percy.

Percy Harvin has a long history of injuries.

Deonte Thompson or Andre Davis will take his roster spot on the cheap.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/percy-harvin/

Robert Woods is the Bills #2 WR. His cap hit this year is $1.3 million.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/robert-woods/

[psubills62]

I've had (and still have) doubts about Manuel, but based on preseason, Cassel doesn't seem to bring anything to the table that Manuel doesn't bring as well. Have no problem sending Cassel packing, personally. Not sure about Harvin. Did he play at all this preseason? Is he still injured?

[Oaf]

i wish we could cut some people from this board

:bf1:

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I'm not in love with what Percy Harvin brings but he'd cost more to cut then keep.

[BillsImpossible]

I've had (and still have) doubts about Manuel, but based on preseason, Cassel doesn't seem to bring anything to the table that Manuel doesn't bring as well. Have no problem sending Cassel packing, personally. Not sure about Harvin. Did he play at all this preseason? Is he still injured?

Harvin is injured with some kind of hip injury. Not good when a guy who relies upon his speed has a bad hip.

Harvin has been injured all throughout his career.

Look at his career statistics: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HarvPe00.htm

Is that kind of production combined with another injury worth $4 million in the tub?

[HHURRICANE]

I didn't read this thread because there is no truth to any of this

[Skooby]

How many times did they call Percy Harvin's name in the pre-season ?? About as many times as they will in the regular season, he's gone.

[Meathead]

so its a rumor bc you started it

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rumor: i might get a supermodel to sit on my face

[BillsImpossible]

Cutting Cassel save $4.75 million. Cutting Jackson saves $2.5 million. Cutting Harvin saves $4 million.

Signing Marcell Dareus and Tyrod Taylor won't be easy.

[BillsImpossible]

so its a rumor bc you started it

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rumor: i might get a supermodel to sit on my face

I didn't start it, Meathead.

Ye of such little faith.

[BillsImpossible]

i wish we could cut some people from this board

Don't put yourself down like that. No matter who agrees or disagrees, I'd rather have everyone's voice heard instead of Stalin choosing who speaks and who gets killed.

[SpikedLemonade]

Cutting Cassel save $4.75 million. Cutting Jackson saves $2.5 million. Cutting Harvin saves $4 million.

Signing Marcell Dareus and Tyrod Taylor won't be easy.

We just signed Taylor to a 2 or 3 year contract. He isn't getting signed to a new contract any time soon. He has to do this thing called "earn it" in real regular season play for a season and a half before he gets paid.

[GvilleBills]

so its a rumor bc you started it

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rumor: i might get a supermodel to sit on my face

Lucky...

[BillsImpossible]

We just signed Taylor to a 2 or 3 year contract. He isn't getting signed to a new contract any time soon. He has to do this thing called "earn it" in real regular season play for a season and a half before he gets paid.

If he plays 8 games this season, his contract gets voided. I'm surprised how many people don't know this by now.

[SpikedLemonade]

If he plays 8 games this season, his contract gets voided. I'm surprised how many people don't know this by now.

Not for next year (2016) it does not....


The most interesting piece of the contract, also tied to Taylor's playing time, is a voidable clause. If Taylor plays in over 50 percent of the Bills' plays in either 2015 or 2016, and remains on the roster five days following the 2016 Super Bowl (http://www.sbnation.com/super-bowl), the third year of the contract voids. This clause would allow, if he received significant playing time in either 2015 or 2016, Taylor to become a free agent for 2017.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/3/18/8236345/tyrod-taylor-contract-details-buffalo-bills-qb-nfl-free-agency-2015


Thanks for wasting my time again buddy.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

If he plays 8 games this season, his contract gets voided. I'm surprised how many people don't know this by now.

Well maybe no one knows that because its not true. Theres a clause in his contract that voids the 3rd year if he's the starter. Don't think that means we need to pay him right away.

[BillsImpossible]

Well maybe no one knows that because its not true. Theres a clause in his contract that voids the 3rd year if he's the starter. Don't think that means we need to pay him right away.

If Taylor has a great year and takes the Bills to the playoffs, he's going to demand a huge new contract and that is a fact of life in America, not Montreal.

[Mace]

Not sure about Harvin. Did he play at all this preseason? Is he still injured?

I sure don't know, I keep forgetting we have him. He's a Ryanbaby though. We'll boot him after he cost too much and didn't do anything but cause locker room problems and waste money.

Imho, and I'm jaded, he'll have 2 dazzling touchdowns, get arrested once with charges dismissed at settlement, piss off 2 teammates loudly in the media and do a whole lot of nothing else before getting hurt in week 8 after having two dazzling touchdowns and making people worry we have him because he suddenly appeared from nowhere and heads back there after with chronic depression or something.

[BillsImpossible]

Not for next year (2016) it does not....


The most interesting piece of the contract, also tied to Taylor's playing time, is a voidable clause. If Taylor plays in over 50 percent of the Bills' plays in either 2015 or 2016, and remains on the roster five days following the 2016 Super Bowl (http://www.sbnation.com/super-bowl), the third year of the contract voids. This clause would allow, if he received significant playing time in either 2015 or 2016, Taylor to become a free agent for 2017.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/3/18/8236345/tyrod-taylor-contract-details-buffalo-bills-qb-nfl-free-agency-2015


Thanks for wasting my time again buddy.

Don't call me buddy, Sally.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Cutting Cassel save $4.75 million. Cutting Jackson saves $2.5 million. Cutting Harvin saves $4 million.

Signing Marcell Dareus and Tyrod Taylor won't be easy.

Cutting Harvin leaves 6 million in dead money on the cap, it doesn't save us a dime.

[Turf]

They've been sitting Harvin out for most everything.

[BillsImpossible]

Cutting Harvin leaves 6 million in dead money on the cap, it doesn't save us a dime.

Cutting Harivin saves the Bills $4 million this year. Dead cap money gets spread out over multiple years against the cap.

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They've been sitting Harvin out for most everything.

Sounds like Cassel.

[djjimkelly]

listen to rexs comments he said he is planning to keep 3 qbs he never said who.


cassel is getting cut and simms makes the team

[Luisito23]

cassel is getting cut and simms makes the team


The faster the better.

[Mace]

listen to rexs comments he said he is planning to keep 3 qbs he never said who.


cassel is getting cut and simms makes the team

Can't have enough Rexbabies to remake the failsauce Jets.

[Meathead]

well fwiw id rather have tyrod > geno, ej > fitz, matt flynn > matt simms

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Cutting Harivin saves the Bills $4 million this year. Dead cap money gets spread out over multiple years against the cap.

You really need to learn how this works. Look at your own spotrac link. His dead money figure is 6 million while his live cap figure is 4 million. If we cut him, he counts 4 million against this year's cap and 2 million against next year's = 6 million dead cap.

We gave Percy Harvin $5.9 million guaranteed and a $100K workout bonus which he's already earned. What do you think happens to that money when he gets cut?

[TakingItuptheChin]

EJ will be cut and Cassel as backup to Taylor. We all know Taylor will be injured with a pulled hamstring, blowout knee, separated shoulder or busted throwing hand. Good thing we have a good backup in Cassel.

[The King]

If Taylor has a great year and takes the Bills to the playoffs, he's going to demand a huge new contract and that is a fact of life in America, not Montreal.

If this is the case he deserves to be paid for sure. But I am not sure the words huge come to mind after one season starting in the NFL.

[Zoneblitser]

Not for next year (2016) it does not....


The most interesting piece of the contract, also tied to Taylor's playing time, is a voidable clause. If Taylor plays in over 50 percent of the Bills' plays in either 2015 or 2016, and remains on the roster five days following the 2016 Super Bowl (http://www.sbnation.com/super-bowl), the third year of the contract voids. This clause would allow, if he received significant playing time in either 2015 or 2016, Taylor to become a free agent for 2017.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/3/18/8236345/tyrod-taylor-contract-details-buffalo-bills-qb-nfl-free-agency-2015


Thanks for wasting my time again buddy.

He's made up his mind spike, don't confuse him with the facts.

[Mahdi]

I think people are forgetting how talented Harvin is.

This guy was a beast when healthy in Minnesota and has the ability to rack up 90 catches and over 1000 yards easily.

Especially with Taylor at QB, Harvin should be able to use his skill set to get open when Taylor is on the move.

[trapezeus]

simms body of work last year, looks on par with cassel. so to me, it makes sense that simms is the same but cheaper as cassel. and is a great emergency QB to have.

[The Jokeman]

If Taylor has a great year and takes the Bills to the playoffs, he's going to demand a huge new contract and that is a fact of life in America, not Montreal.

Let's see what he does in Week 1 before we worry about Week 2 etc.

[Forward_Lateral]

You can't justify keeping Cassel as a backup if you just cut FJ. Cassel should be cut soon, IMO. Roll with Tyrod, EJ and Simmsy

[Bill Cody]

If Taylor has a great year and takes the Bills to the playoffs, he's going to demand a huge new contract and that is a fact of life in America, not Montreal.

So what's your point? We should extend him now just in case he does? I'm thinking the odds of that happening are zero.

[trapezeus]

So what's your point? We should extend him now just in case he does? I'm thinking the odds of that happening are zero.

I believe this is called "the Fitzpackage" giving out a contract way too early and only based on a few games that made us feel good.

[Victor7]

lol at needing to extend Taylor.

The man has not taken a regular season snap for us and someone here already trying to save coin for his extension.

For all we know he could suck in the regular season and be benched by week 4.

[Night Train]

lol at needing to extend Taylor.

The man has not taken a regular season snap for us and someone here already trying to save coin for his extension.

For all we know he could suck in the regular season and be benched by week 4.

Agreed. I want him to start but he just signed a 3 year deal. We have Dareus, Bradham, Gilmore, Glenn and more needing new contracts in the next year.

Internet GM's with 2 % of actual information = awesome ideas

[Goobylal]

Harvin is back practicing today and making hard cuts. He's not going anywhere.

[Ed]

You can't give a guy a lot of guaranteed money and then just cut him before he even plays. Harvin made the final roster for 2015 the moment he signed his deal.

[Mr. Miyagi]

i wish we could cut some people from this board
I have a few names in mind and my finger over the button.

[DesertFox24]

Harvin will be on the team this year only.

[djjimkelly]

ive been reading and thinking all day about cassel and ej


cassel will be cut 24 - 48 hrs after preseason game 4

[Mr. Pink]

Cassel could be cut but Harvin isn't going anywhere.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Rumor, the poster known as MST3KBillsfan will be sharing a bed with three porn stars of his choosing. He got this info in an incredibly erotic dream, the contents of which are unsuitable for a family friendly website such as this one.

[Night Train]

I bet we see Harvin running some jet sweeps.

[feldspar]

Rumor, the poster known as MST3KBillsfan will be sharing a bed with three porn stars of his choosing.

The three with the biggest schlongs?

[Generalissimus Gibby]

The three with the biggest schlongs?

That's not how you spell tits

[The Jokeman]

I believe this is called "the Fitzpackage" giving out a contract way too early and only based on a few games that made us feel good.

Looking back we did the same with Flutie and RJ.

[BillsImpossible]

Why is Matt Simms starting the 4th preseason game?

Why is every reporter and even Rex Ryan saying that Simms will likely play the entire game?

"Most, if not all the snaps," Ryan said about how much Matt Simms will play this Thursday night.

That is equally as head scratching as Cassel not playing against the Browns.

If the Bills are going to pay Cassel more than $4 million to ride the pine in 2015, and Cassel is complaining about a lack of reps in the preseason, why not play him for a quarter or more and prove he's worthy of at least being the backup QB?

Because the backup QB competition has already been decided as well. EJ Manuel earned it.

Matt Simms is going to have the opportunity to replace Matt Cassel on Thursday night.

Cutting Cassel saves the Bills $4.15 million in cap savings.

Cutting Manuel saves the Bills between $500,000 and $1.2 million.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-analysis-all-22/2015/9/1/9232967/matt-cassel-ej-manuel-salary-cap-numbers-buffalo-bills-2015-16

I think it's pretty obvious that EJ Manuel has won the 2nd quarterback position.

Cassel wasn't even in the locker room yesterday. That is poor leadership, in my opinion.

I absolutely love the idea of having EJ Manuel learn the game with the help from a competent coaching staff and a quarterback in Tyrod Taylor that knows what it's like to ride the bench for 4 years.

Congrats to Tyrod Taylor and EJ Manuel for RISING UP to the challenge and pulling through in the end.

Those guys make me proud to be a Bills fan.

[The Jokeman]

Why is Matt Simms starting the 4th preseason game?

Why is every reporter and even Rex Ryan saying that Simms will likely play the entire game?

"Most, if not all the snaps," Ryan said about how much Matt Simms will play this Thursday night.
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Likely to avoid an injury to a more important player and maybe give him a little more film so he can land elsewhere. The reason why Cassel didn't play against Cleveland is because the Bills wanted to see more out of EJ and Tyrod. We know what Cassel gives us he showed the same thing in both his appearances is that he is a move the chains type throw her with his dink and dunk. IF we cut Cassel we're taking a major gamble on Tyrod/EJ. I am EJ guy all the way but I hate the idea of leaving us with Tyrod and EJ and no Cassel. I mean for all we know Cassel is also part of EJ's development too. Simms is Jeff Tuehl part 2 but he has a famous father so people might be willing to give him more chances.

[BillsImpossible]

Likely to avoid an injury to a more important player and maybe give him a little more film so he can land elsewhere. The reason why Cassel didn't play against Cleveland is because the Bills wanted to see more out of EJ and Tyrod. We know what Cassel gives us he showed the same thing in both his appearances is that he is a move the chains type throw her with his dink and dunk. IF we cut Cassel we're taking a major gamble on Tyrod/EJ. I am EJ guy all the way but I hate the idea of leaving us with Tyrod and EJ and no Cassel.

I love the idea of having Tyrod and EJ and no Cassel.

On a side note, where is betterdays? He always chimes in on all this nonsense called the NFL.

Hope you're doing alright my fellow Bills fan and unknown friend.

[The Jokeman]

I love the idea of having Tyrod and EJ and no Cassel.

On a side note, where is betterdays? He always chimes in on all this nonsense called the NFL.

Hope you're doing alright my fellow Bills fan and unknown friend.

Why would you risk going with Tyrod and EJ alone when you don't have to?

[BillsImpossible]

Why would you risk going with Tyrod and EJ alone when you don't have to?

Simms can be on the practice squad and be the 3rd QB if necessary.

EJ has shown improvement in his game as of late and he has a ton of upside learning under Ryan, Roman, and Taylor.

Cassel has no upside and didn't attempt a single throw more than 15 yards when given the chance.

Cassel is more risky, in my opinion because has has proven over 10 years that he's not capable of winning a championship.

[Mace]

Why is Matt Simms starting the 4th preseason game?

Why is every reporter and even Rex Ryan saying that Simms will likely play the entire game?

"Most, if not all the snaps," Ryan said about how much Matt Simms will play this Thursday night.

Rexmeister is not well known for masterminding the finest quarterback decisions and having them amount to anything much. He's doing his Rexbaby pickup a solid. If any of the other QB's are so brittle they cannot play a series, good luck in week one. Week two comes a short while later, they might get ouchies.

[Goobylal]

Simms can be on the practice squad and be the 3rd QB if necessary.

EJ has shown improvement in his game as of late and he has a ton of upside learning under Ryan, Roman, and Taylor.

Cassel has no upside and didn't attempt a single throw more than 15 yards when given the chance.

Cassel is more risky, in my opinion because has has proven over 10 years that he's not capable of winning a championship.
Yup. The odds of both TT and EJ going down in the same game are incredibly low, so the Bills can activate Simms from the PS the following game. No need to pay the 3rd QB $4.15M.

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Rexmeister is not well known for masterminding the finest quarterback decisions and having them amount to anything much. He's doing his Rexbaby pickup a solid. If any of the other QB's are so brittle they cannot play a series, good luck in week one. Week two comes a short while later, they might get ouchies.
So you didn't think Taylor played well?

[Mace]

So you didn't think Taylor played well?

I guess we have a fundamental miscommunication. What I said was :

Rexmeister is not well known for masterminding the finest quarterback decisions and having them amount to anything much. He's doing his Rexbaby pickup a solid. If any of the other QB's are so brittle they cannot play a series, good luck in week one. Week two comes a short while later, they might get ouchies.

To refresh your memory, this was in regard to Simms starting and or playing all of the last preseason game if you truck on back a few posts.

[The Jokeman]

Yup. The odds of both TT and EJ going down in the same game are incredibly low, so the Bills can activate Simms from the PS the following game. No need to pay the 3rd QB $4.15M.

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So you didn't think Taylor played well?

Because when your #1 and #2 QBs are making $883k and $2.4 respectively you can pay $4.15 for an insurance policy in case your unproven guys ahead of him don't perform. I mean think about it between Tyrod and EJ we have two QBs with 14 NFL starts, I'd imagine that's the lowest number in the NFL.

[Goobylal]

Because when your #1 and #2 QBs are making $883k and $2.4 respectively you can pay $4.15 for an insurance policy in case your unproven guys ahead of him don't perform. I mean think about it between Tyrod and EJ we have two QBs with 14 NFL starts, I'd imagine that's the lowest number in the NFL.
Have you seen Cassel's past 4 seasons?

[BillsImpossible]

Have you seen Cassel's past 4 seasons?

Right!

Bang your head...for 15 years straight against a brick wall.

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[BillsImpossible]

Everyone that thanked your post thought Tyrod Taylor was garbage back in March when he was signed.

Why? Because they're stupid and let their egos get in the way of logic and reason.

They have small dicks that can't be seen beyond their fat, obese stomachs.

Jaybird, you're probably fat as hell too.

Go eat another taco, or some Chinese food full of crap and special sauce.

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[Albany,n.y.]

I'll go on record as guaranteeing that Cassel is cut before opening day. If he makes it to next week, he'll still get cut before the opener & replaced by a late, cheaper, pickup off the scrap heap. There's no way they're guaranteeing over $4 million dollars for a 3rd stringer. They have to cut him before opening day, otherwise his salary is guaranteed for the season.
Now, if Cassel doesn't sign elsewhere, then the Bills can re-sign him later at a much lower rate after contract guarantees end. However, I'd bet NE signs him before week 2.

[djjimkelly]

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-rumors/2015/9/2/9247963/matt-casse-expected-to-be-released-by-buffalo-bills-report


even vic carrucci is now saying cassel's days are numbered

[The Jokeman]

Have you seen Cassel's past 4 seasons?

I know he's had a 4-5 record in two seasons with the Vikings. I also know the Vikings have next to nothing when it comes to WR talent in those two seasons and last year outside the season opener didn't have their best offensive player in AP. To me a QB is more a product of the players around him then a sole entity.

[The Jokeman]

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-rumors/2015/9/2/9247963/matt-casse-expected-to-be-released-by-buffalo-bills-report


even vic carrucci is now saying cassel's days are numbered

No Vic is reposting what other people think and then spinning a reason behind why Cassel could be cut. No reporting what so ever just speculation and conjecture.

[Turf]

6.5 million for Darius between the two. I think Harvin stays.

[Goobylal]

I know he's had a 4-5 record in two seasons with the Vikings. I also know the Vikings have next to nothing when it comes to WR talent in those two seasons and last year outside the season opener didn't have their best offensive player in AP. To me a QB is more a product of the players around him then a sole entity.
EJ is 6-8 as a starter without nearly the experience Cassel has, and had just as bad a supporting cast.

[The Jokeman]

EJ is 6-8 as a starter without nearly the experience Cassel has, and had just as bad a supporting cast.

And if you were to ask me whom I want at QB it be EJ.

[Goobylal]

And if you were to ask me whom I want at QB it be EJ.
Then we're in contentious agreement.

[Mr. Pink]

If Simms plays well tonight, I think Cassel is gonna be gone.

[Albany,n.y.]

If Simms doesn't get injured tonight, Cassel is gonna be gone.
Fixed

[Cleve]

So if Jackson was cut because $3 million was too much and his numbers haven't been great in the last couple years, then it seems reasonable to assume Cassell will be cut for over $5 million of cap hit for a guy whose passer rating last year was a poor 65.

IF non- fan favorite Cassell remains for a lot more money than the fan-loved Jackson, then Whaley's decision making process is questionable.

[Ed]

So if Jackson was cut because $3 million was too much and his numbers haven't been great in the last couple years, then it seems reasonable to assume Cassell will be cut for over $5 million of cap hit for a guy whose passer rating last year was a poor 65.

IF non- fan favorite Cassell remains for a lot more money than the fan-loved Jackson, then Whaley's decision making process is questionable.
I'm completely in favor of Cassel getting the axe, but it's not quite the same scenario when you consider that we have an all-pro at RB in McCoy and other capable depth. Tyrod and EJ are still inexperienced unknowns. So there's more justification for keeping Cassel if they're not convinced they can just roll with Tyrod and EJ.

[sukie]

I do not want a journeyman vet on the team at QB... trigger on a young guy gets pulled too quickly. Live and die by the youth.

[Cleve]

I'm completely in favor of Cassel getting the axe, but it's not quite the same scenario when you consider that we have an all-pro at RB in McCoy and other capable depth. Tyrod and EJ are still inexperienced unknowns. So there's more justification for keeping Cassel if they're not convinced they can just roll with Tyrod and EJ.

That's a good point. But I think we could probably find a LOT cheaper backup with PR of 65 than Cassell. He's getting only 2 million less this season than Russell Friggin' Wilson! Pretty high price tag.

[Ed]

That's a good point. But I think we could probably find a LOT cheaper backup with PR of 65 than Cassell. He's getting only 2 million less this season than Russell Friggin' Wilson! Pretty high price tag.
I agree. I would much rather just go with EJ as the backup and keep a 3rd qb on the PS, and then just roll Cassel's salary into next years cap.

[HHURRICANE]

Can't they just get Cassel to redo his contract?

Nobody is paying him 4.5 million dollars.

[swiper]

I do not want a journeyman vet on the team at QB... trigger on a young guy gets pulled too quickly. Live and die by the youth.

I want a real QB, not a throwing RB. And, outside of Cassel, that's all that's left now that Simms was cut.

[YardRat]

Simms play on Thursday and Cassel's contract probably makes some wish we had Jeff Tuel still in the fold.

[sudzy]

Can't they just get Cassel to redo his contract?

Nobody is paying him 4.5 million dollars.

Worth a shot. Throw in another year at average back up #s. How many more chances does he really think he's going to get?

[Goobylal]

I think they're waiting to see if Simms clears waivers so they can put him on the PS, and if they can, then they'll cut Cassel. You don't pay a #3 QB (and that's what he is now) $4.15M.