Wow, Carpenter may be in serious trouble here

[ghz in pittsburgh]

http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/09/rex_ryan_upset_with_bills_kicker_dan_carpenter_says_team_will_explore_other_opti.html

And for that matter, the Bills, too. The last thing you need is a missed field goal for a defense oriented team.

But really who is out there. The Steelers has gone on their 3rd one now due to injury.

[Forward_Lateral]

I think Dan will be fine. But if he misses a few to start the season, I'd bet he's gone.

[HHURRICANE]

Didn't Ryan fire this guy once before?

[swiper]

Carpenter will be the guy.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Still not so sure. History says if Rex is really mad, changes are made ...

There are a few teams having two kickers right now. Saints, Dolphins, Bengals, Giants, etc. Someone will be available after the last round of cuts.

The thing is Jordan Gay might be a collateral casualty should the Bills decide to go for a guy who's doing both.

[swiper]

Radio hosts in NYC talking about the Jets a couple a days ago all agreed they were glad that "the Rex circus is outta here now...."

[DraftBoy]

Not a huge shock, he was cut in Miami for inconsistency before he came here. Him finding his groove has been nice but it shouldn't surprise anybody that he would potentially struggle again.

[swiper]

Gotta wonder if he's trying to pull an "Orton" and taking the money and running. I'm sure the Steelers and a few others would welcome him.

[Meathead]

hes never really gotten over losing karen

https://timbrosnan.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/karencarpenterkaren2.jpg

[Mr. Miyagi]

Great. We have barely gotten over the instability at QB and now all we need is a kicker problem.

[swiper]

Great. We have barely gotten over the instability at QB and now all we need is a kicker problem.


LOL. We got over that?

[Night Train]

Kickers are a strange lot. They can get hot for a long run then suddenly just lose it. Then it becomes a mental issue they fight to overcome.

Never knew how he got hurt in the 1st place but he lives by his leg and if it's still hurt, he's on the bubble. 3 missed FG's and a missed XP makes any coach squirm.

[Mr. Miyagi]

LOL. We got over that?
Barely. At least we have one named and an actual direction.

[Mr. Pink]

Both Carpenter and Gay should be cut. Scour the waiver wire and bring in someone who does both.

They'll be kickers available.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Kickers are a strange lot. They can get hot for a long run then suddenly just lose it. Then it becomes a mental issue they fight to overcome.
Agreed. Many sure thing kickers suddenly dropped off the face of the Earth. See Mike Vanderjagt and Jeff Reed.

[The Jokeman]

People complain about keeping Jordan Gay, well look no further as to why we need one because of Carpenter. No doubt he's been a great field goal kicker but if he keeps struggling it makes more sense to replace him with a guy that can handle both duties and free up a roster spot.

[Night Train]

People complain about keeping Jordan Gay, well look no further as to why we need one because of Carpenter. No doubt he's been a great field goal kicker but if he keeps struggling it makes more sense to replace him with a guy that can handle both duties and free up a roster spot.

I watched Gay kick at camp. He missed a ton of kicks. Don't believe he's a fallback option and his shaky roster spot actually depends on whether Carpenter is kept.

[trapezeus]

what is his cap hit? didn't he sign a deal this year? he was so automatic at 50+ last year. Sad to see him struggle.

but remember norwood was really good up until he missed the superbowl kick and then struggled for 2 years and was gone.

i don't know the pysche of a kicker, but frankly, if carpenter's cap hit is significant, i would rather lose a game with carpenter missing than losing a game with a newbie kicking. in that second scenario we'll all wonder what would have happened if we just kept carpenter.

[Scumbag College]

I'm not an expert on placekicking, but it seems to me that that skill would all hinge on muscle memory, proper form, etc. If he had a hamstring injury, then there is no way that you can practice that muscle memory and it would take time to come back. And kickers seem to have the same psychological makeup as hockey goalies, once they're rattled it doesn't come back easily. I hope he can get it together-he was huge for us last year but with nine days til the opener it seems a little shaky.

[Albany,n.y.]

what is his cap hit? didn't he sign a deal this year? he was so automatic at 50+ last year. Sad to see him struggle.

but remember norwood was really good up until he missed the superbowl kick and then struggled for 2 years and was gone.

i don't know the pysche of a kicker, but frankly, if carpenter's cap hit is significant, i would rather lose a game with carpenter missing than losing a game with a newbie kicking. in that second scenario we'll all wonder what would have happened if we just kept carpenter.

Norwood wasn't very good at long distance kicks, the Super Bowl kick was even tougher because it was on grass which is tougher than turf, especially the type that was used in the 1990s.
Norwood only lasted one more year & was gone. That year the Bills had Brad Daluiso as the kickoff specialist. After that Christie was signed for all kicking duties & kicked the winning FG in the comeback game.

[more cowbell]

He was snipped in Miami for missing short field goals after he was solid for them for a few years.

I definitely think the Bills should at least explore what other options are out there, possibly via trade as well. The Steelers sent a 6th round pick to Los Angeles for Josh Scobee, who has been a solid kicker his entire career...so who knows what's possible? Dustin Hopkins has looked good in New Orleans.............

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I'm not an expert on placekicking, but it seems to me that that skill would all hinge on muscle memory, proper form, etc. If he had a hamstring injury, then there is no way that you can practice that muscle memory and it would take time to come back. And kickers seem to have the same psychological makeup as hockey goalies, once they're rattled it doesn't come back easily. I hope he can get it together-he was huge for us last year but with nine days til the opener it seems a little shaky.
I happened to caught on what Chris Brown said about Carpenter - he observed a lot of turf being kicked up from Carpenter, meaning going under the ball, not in proper form due to missed practice etc. You can easily imagine not striking the ball correctly the side to side as well. Maybe he's not completely healed either.

But you also have to consider the season start time does not wait for anyone ...

[ParanoidAndroid]

I liken it to a golf swing. It's a really repetitive, precise mechanism and there are subtleties depending on angle and distance. I think he just needs more reps because it's clear that he is still able to put 50 yarders up. He was automatic inside 45 yards the last two years. That said, if there is someone out there after cuts that has good percentages and can make Jordan Gay obsolete, then do it.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

what is his cap hit? didn't he sign a deal this year? he was so automatic at 50+ last year. Sad to see him struggle.

but remember norwood was really good up until he missed the superbowl kick and then struggled for 2 years and was gone.

i don't know the pysche of a kicker, but frankly, if carpenter's cap hit is significant, i would rather lose a game with carpenter missing than losing a game with a newbie kicking. in that second scenario we'll all wonder what would have happened if we just kept carpenter.

http://overthecap.com/player/dan-carpenter/678/

Looks like hes about the middle of the NFL for kickers. Cap number this year is 2.36, goes up over the next two years to almost 3 by 2017

[swiper]

Was activated from injured reserve on 8/16 (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/transactions.html). Still working out the kinks.

[feldspar]

Rex was really PISSED about Carperter.

Watch the video:

http://www.buffalobills.com/video/videos/Rex-Ryan-We-Have-a-Hell-of-a-Roster/b473e31c-4f98-4421-ae65-62a1e16713c4

[Bill Cody]

It's nuts to have two roster spots for kickers.

[chernobylwraiths]

I think Carpenter will be fine.

Maybe he is upset about losing his dog.

[Albany,n.y.]

He was snipped in Miami for missing short field goals after he was solid for them for a few years.

I definitely think the Bills should at least explore what other options are out there, possibly via trade as well. The Steelers sent a 6th round pick to Los Angeles for Josh Scobee, who has been a solid kicker his entire career...so who knows what's possible? Dustin Hopkins has looked good in New Orleans.............

When did Los Angeles get a team?

[Ed]

I would seem short-sighted to cut Carpenter right now. Hopefully Rex is just trying to light a fire under Carpenter.

[more cowbell]

When did Los Angeles get a team?


It was a joke...as in the Jaguars are a joke and should be in LA. I'm feeling witty today.

[YardRat]

When you plan on most of your scoring coming from FG's, you better have a K that is automatic. I'd like to think that Carpenter is still working out the kinks and getting in shape, but if that were the case I would think Ryan would be at least a little bit understanding.

[BillsImpossible]

I think Carpenter will be fine.

Maybe he is upset about losing his dog.

Dan Carpenter and his wife recently had to put their 11 year old family dog to rest.

Losing a family pet is like losing a close relative to a lot of people. It's no different than losing a son, or daughter or uncle.

After my brother had to put his dog down, he went in to a tailspin of depression.

I think it would be cool if Rex Ryan adopted a puppy, made it the Bills family mascot, and handed it Dan Carpenter in the locker room.

Best wishes to Dan and his wife.

[BidsJr]

Dan Carpenter and his wife recently had to put their 11 year old family dog to rest.

Losing a family pet is like losing a close relative to a lot of people. It's no different than losing a son, or daughter or uncle.

After my brother had to put his dog down, he went in to a tailspin of depression.

I think it would be cool if Rex Ryan adopted a puppy, made it the Bills family mascot, and handed it Dan Carpenter in the locker room.

Best wishes to Dan and his wife.

Do you have kids? Heaven help them if you think losing a dog or a cat is the same as losing one of them.

[BillsImpossible]

Do you have kids? Heaven help them if you think losing a dog or a cat is the same as losing one of them.

I do not have kids, thank God.

People love their pets just as much as their human family members.

I know people that have grieved more over the loss of a cat than their own mother.

Dan Carpenter is 29 years old. His dog was with him since he was 18 years old.

11 years of some of the best memories of his life, and now his best friend is gone.

That would be emotionally devastating to most people with a heart.

[Albany,n.y.]

I do not have kids, thank God.

People love their pets just as much as their human family members.

I know people that have grieved more over the loss of a cat than their own mother.

Dan Carpenter is 29 years old. His dog was with him since he was 18 years old.

11 years of some of the best memories of his life, and now his best friend is gone.

That would be emotionally devastating to most people with a heart.
Here's some advice:
If you're ever at a funeral, don't compare the loss of the person with a dog or cat.

[BillsImpossible]

Here's some advice:
If you're ever at a funeral, don't compare the loss of the person with a dog or cat.

Stop biting at my heels like a Chihuahua.

Don't even think of hoisting your leg on me!

[BillsImpossible]

NFL kickers and NHL goalies are, "different."

I think it would be best to have Rex Ryan adopt a puppy from the SPCA and hand it over to Dan Carpenter.

Problem solved.

If it's a male, his name should be Bill. If it's a female, her name should be Jill.

I would do anything to get back Dan Carpenter's mojo.

Did SpikedLemonade kill Dan Carpenter's dog?

[Jimkelly12203]

Norwood wasn't very good at long distance kicks, the Super Bowl kick was even tougher because it was on grass which is tougher than turf, especially the type that was used in the 1990s.
Norwood only lasted one more year & was gone. That year the Bills had Brad Daluiso as the kickoff specialist. After that Christie was signed for all kicking duties & kicked the winning FG in the comeback game.

We've had it rough as bills fans. But i firmly believe that Steve Christie spoiled the ever loving hell out of this fan base.

That man worked absolute miracles in **** conditions. He was the best FG kicker in Bills history as far as i'm concerned.

Total man-child.

[BidsJr]

I do not have kids, thank God.

People love their pets just as much as their human family members.

I know people that have grieved more over the loss of a cat than their own mother.

Dan Carpenter is 29 years old. His dog was with him since he was 18 years old.

11 years of some of the best memories of his life, and now his best friend is gone.

That would be emotionally devastating to most people with a heart.


If you ever are able to convince a lady to have a child with you, you will realize how idiotic that statement was.