Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud?

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  • jpdex12
    Registered User
    • Jan 2005
    • 2670

    Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud?

    1-The fact that there has been no lawsuit from the Patriots against ESPN or any major media outlet that has reported these stories for slander or libel for falsely reporting stories and smearing their good name over the past decade?

    2-Why hasn't anyone heard from the two employees who were fired from deflategate? Because they were paid off not to talk?
    Where else would you rather be than right here right now?
  • POTLAND PSILBYLO
    Asst to Dean Vernon Wormer
    • Nov 2012
    • 13990

    #2
    Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

    2) They were suspended ... still on payroll? $$$ $-P
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    • Mr. Miyagi
      Lecter's Little *****

      • Sep 2002
      • 53616

      #3
      Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

      Why hasn't any former coaches come out to tell what they know? Surely there are some that are no longer working in the NFL, so there's no fear of career suicide. It's not like the Patriots are the mob and they have to fear for their lives. Unless they fear lawsuits from Kraft?

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      • sudzy
        Registered User
        • Apr 2013
        • 2802

        #4
        Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

        Originally posted by jpdex12 View Post

        2-Why hasn't anyone heard from the two employees who were fired from deflategate? Because they were paid off not to talk?
        Are they still alive? They pissed of the Godfather of the NFL Robert Kraft. They might be with "Luca Brasi" sleeping with the fishes.
        Last edited by sudzy; 09-08-2015, 02:06 PM. Reason: ?

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        • stuckincincy
          Buffalo Bills Fan
          • Sep 2003
          • 15084

          #5
          Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

          Originally posted by sudzy View Post
          Are they still alive. They pissed of the Godfather of the NFL Robert Kraft. They might be with "Luca Brasi" sleeping with the fishes.
          Yep. Billionaires have considerable clout...
          Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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          • IlluminatusUIUC
            Registered User
            • Sep 2012
            • 8966

            #6
            Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

            Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
            Why hasn't any former coaches come out to tell what they know? Surely there are some that are no longer working in the NFL, so there's no fear of career suicide. It's not like the Patriots are the mob and they have to fear for their lives. Unless they fear lawsuits from Kraft?
            There have been several who have come out complaining (Mike Martz, Tony Dungy) as well as some former Patriot employees. The former were treated as butthurt haters, and the latter as looking for a payday.


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            • jpdex12
              Registered User
              • Jan 2005
              • 2670

              #7
              Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

              I thought those two were fired from deflategate, no? This whole thing is so corrupt and wrong...
              Where else would you rather be than right here right now?

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              • sukie
                Seriously?
                • Sep 2012
                • 21511

                #8
                Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
                Why hasn't any former coaches come out to tell what they know? Surely there are some that are no longer working in the NFL, so there's no fear of career suicide. It's not like the Patriots are the mob and they have to fear for their lives. Unless they fear lawsuits from Kraft?
                They were part of the team wiring the thermite in the WTC towers... They are really good at silence.

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                • stuckincincy
                  Buffalo Bills Fan
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 15084

                  #9
                  Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                  Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                  There have been several who have come out complaining (Mike Martz, Tony Dungy) as well as some former Patriot employees. The former were treated as butthurt haters, and the latter as looking for a payday.
                  Yes - the vast thumb thug i-phone/android society that rules espouse their intolerance daily and attack at will.. I'm glad I'm of an age where I'm in the home stretch.
                  Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                  • trapezeus
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 19525

                    #10
                    Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                    why doesn't anyone bring up that the patriots miss on draft picks, jettison performing players, pick up aged trash and no name players and then repeat the same results. Meanwhile other teams when grossly undertalented tend to have much worse performance. Yet the pats never do. doesn't that make you think that maybe the skill of the players don't really matter for the pats system?

                    And the cheating here is good enough to keep average teams in games and to squeak them out. if your system is so obvious that you win every down, you are going to get busted. you win the 4-6 plays that define a game and run with that momentum, people don't see it clearly.

                    just like casino blackjack system people. the more obvious they are winning, the less chance it continues on.

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                    • Victor7
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 1270

                      #11
                      Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                      Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
                      Why hasn't any former coaches come out to tell what they know? Surely there are some that are no longer working in the NFL, so there's no fear of career suicide. It's not like the Patriots are the mob and they have to fear for their lives. Unless they fear lawsuits from Kraft?
                      They have !

                      Did you read the ESPN report ? It mentions Mangini, Martz, Dungy and other former coaches/players/execs. Like Ilum said. They have been branded as sore losers.

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                      • elroy16
                        Registered User
                        • May 2014
                        • 145

                        #12
                        Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                        Originally posted by Victor7 View Post
                        They have !

                        Did you read the ESPN report ? It mentions Mangini, Martz, Dungy and other former coaches/players/execs. Like Ilum said. They have been branded as sore losers.
                        the part where they convince Martz to say the taping was probably worthless and then changed his statement is shady as hell. Somehow the pats knew how to defend plays that the rams had never run, belichick must be a God.


                        Saying they misinterpreted a rule after telling their staff to hide their logos and make up excuses for why they were taping coaches is proof they knew they were breaking rules. Oh it didn't work, why do it for 6 years? Why do it in NY even after mangini brought it up and told them not to?


                        Football all is a game of inches and a handful of plays. You can't tell me knowing what a defense is going to run, even if it's only on 10% of the plays, isn't a big deal. From the report, they knew a lot more than that.


                        It'll all get swept under the rug and nothing will come of it which is the most frustrating part. I'm so glad this hasn't all happened to the bills. Rings would be awesome, but I would be embarrassed by all of this.
                        Last edited by elroy16; 09-08-2015, 05:06 PM.

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                        • DynaPaul
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 7540

                          #13
                          Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                          Personally I'm expecting a tell-all book from someone a few years after Brady, Belichick, and Adams run off into the sunset with their illegitimate wins.

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                          • Mace
                            Haha...yeah you think so ?
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 20315

                            #14
                            Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                            I don't even care if they cheat. Some teams still beat them. I want us to be one of them.

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                            • BillsImpossible
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 16206

                              #15
                              Re: Why has no one focused on two glaring facts with the Patriots to help prove fraud

                              Originally posted by Mace View Post
                              I don't even care if they cheat. Some teams still beat them. I want us to be one of them.
                              Rex Ryan knows teams cheat as much as they can and get away with it.

                              The Patriots knew how to bend the rules just as much as the Dallas Cowboys of the early 1990's.

                              The alleged use of deer-antler spray by professional athletes was the hot topic of Super Bowl week, but former defensive lineman Tony Casillas said "that's nothing" compared to what players used during his playing career.


                              Yes, horse ointment. Ask Ray Lewis about deer antler spray.

                              Stealing play calls is nothing new. Baseball teams have been stealing signals since the game was born.

                              How do you beat a cheat?

                              Outsmart them. Put out disinformation. Hide your plays under lock, key, and gun.

                              Play chess.

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