Whaley is an excellent GM!

[HHURRICANE]

Since the Whaley bashers have gone into hiding I decided to throw my praise on Whaley. He has had to make some tough decisions as well as building a rosetr that is young, talented, and dynamic.

Some highlights:

1) Don't care what you say but trading McCoy for Kiko was an excellent decision.

2) Signing Clay. Finally the real tight end we've been looking for. Watching Chandler in that New England game was the highlight of a tough game.

3) Sending Jackson packing. Tough decision but at the end of the day it was the right one. Karlos has looked crazy good.

4) Resigning Dareus and Hughes. Good contracts and excellent value for both parties.

5) Harvin. He has looked terrific.

6) Incognito. Another terrific signing.

7) Tyrod Taylor. Yes Rex will get credit but you need a GM to sign off on these decisions.

The only decision I have to give hime crap on is Bryce Brown. I admit I am a Bryce Brown homer and wish we could have kept him over Boobie Dixon. BTW, rumor is that he might be a Jet.

Hate away!!

[psubills62]

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I've been saying for the last couple years that he's done a good job filling this roster with talent. Do we remember the days of Chris Kelsay and Ryan Denney, where we couldn't find anyone year after year to replace them? We're now talking about not being able to keep all of our talent.

He's not perfect and "excellent" may be going too far, but I've seen nothing to dissuade me from believing that he's a good GM to have for the long term.

[FlyingDutchman]

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Was that Whaley that did the Hughes trade or Nix?

It's great to see us actually building through the draft which is crucial to any type of long term success. We got 3 studs this year alone without a #1 pick.

[DesertFox24]

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The other thing that people seem to forget is drafting.

We got Sammy, Cyrus, Preston, Randell Johnson, and Seantrell. Cyril and Ross are not that great but to get 3 starters out of any draft and potentially two more next year is huge. I have a feeling Manny and Cordy will not be on the team next year and I think Seantrell will move to Left and Cryus will battle early pick for RT, Randell will be Manny's replacement.

Additionally Darby, Miller, and Williams are good picks so far. I am also not ready to say bust to Nick O'leary I still think he can be a 10 year player and a solid number 2 TE in this league. Time will tell but I think if he can get stronger and get his blocking up to par he will beat out Mulligan for that role next year.

Additionally the other thing we need to look at with Whaley is waiver pick ups. Gray looks like he will be a decent player and decent special teams guy and that is not a bad thing. Stephan Charles, Corbin Bryant, and the MIKE LB that tore his ACL this training camp look like nice depth players and you need those guys to have a solid roster.

Bills fans know better than anyone we will have injuries and in order to stay competitive you need a good 53 not just a good 22.

All in all Bills fans should be pleased with Whaley and the front office, especially compared to the debacles of Tom Donahue, Marv Levy, the trio of levy Brandon Jauron, and even to some degree Nix. Nix was the start of the good scouting department overhaul as he fired and hired a bunch of new people, but he gets a minus from me for failing to draft any QBs that or developing them.

Whaley needs to show he and his staff can evaluate the QB position and draft a guy every year or two and develop one into a legitimate player. One just in case Tyrod shows he is not the guy this year, next year or 2017, but also if you can develop a good qb that you draft in rounds 2-5 you can usually trade them for high picks in 3 years if they develop (that is if Tyrod is a franchise guy and legit).

[DesertFox24]

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Was that Whaley that did the Hughes trade or Nix?

It's great to see us actually building through the draft which is crucial to any type of long term success. We got 3 studs this year alone without a #1 pick.

Technically Nix.

Nix retired a few weeks after the draft in May and I believe the Hughes trade happened after the draft in April.

that said if you want to put EJ on Whaley then Hughes goes to Whaley as well, but I do not put EJ on Whaley so not Hughes. He gets credit for resigning him though.

[BillsOwnAll]

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I always was confused why such hate for Whaley. If you look at the drafts the last 4-5 years compared to other teams drafts I bet were a top 5 team.

People here put such high standards like he needs to draft 7 starters every year. REALISTAICLY that's not possible. He's also done great at keeping players. We'll see if he can restructure a few contracts next year.

The fact is people here forgot what happens when you're a "good" team. You have many good players you need to resign not just 2-3 like we've grown accustomed to. Look at the pats. They don't resign everyone at all and seem to keep doing it. Because they draft well.

In a Whaley supporter he's made the bills not laughable. Teams see us on their schedule now and probally circle it as a harder game.

[FlyingDutchman]

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The other thing that people seem to forget is drafting.

We got Sammy, Cyrus, Preston, Randell Johnson, and Seantrell. Cyril and Ross are not that great but to get 3 starters out of any draft and potentially two more next year is huge. I have a feeling Manny and Cordy will not be on the team next year and I think Seantrell will move to Left and Cryus will battle early pick for RT, Randell will be Manny's replacement.

Additionally Darby, Miller, and Williams are good picks so far. I am also not ready to say bust to Nick O'leary I still think he can be a 10 year player and a solid number 2 TE in this league. Time will tell but I think if he can get stronger and get his blocking up to par he will beat out Mulligan for that role next year.

Additionally the other thing we need to look at with Whaley is waiver pick ups. Gray looks like he will be a decent player and decent special teams guy and that is not a bad thing. Stephan Charles, Corbin Bryant, and the MIKE LB that tore his ACL this training camp look like nice depth players and you need those guys to have a solid roster.

Bills fans know better than anyone we will have injuries and in order to stay competitive you need a good 53 not just a good 22.

All in all Bills fans should be pleased with Whaley and the front office, especially compared to the debacles of Tom Donahue, Marv Levy, the trio of levy Brandon Jauron, and even to some degree Nix. Nix was the start of the good scouting department overhaul as he fired and hired a bunch of new people, but he gets a minus from me for failing to draft any QBs that or developing them.

Whaley needs to show he and his staff can evaluate the QB position and draft a guy every year or two and develop one into a legitimate player. One just in case Tyrod shows he is not the guy this year, next year or 2017, but also if you can develop a good qb that you draft in rounds 2-5 you can usually trade them for high picks in 3 years if they develop (that is if Tyrod is a franchise guy and legit).

Agree 100%. During the Packers game, they were showing how all but 3 players on the current roster were drafted by the pack. We're starting to get to the point where the majority of our starters were drafted by the Bills.

I can't really fault Whaley for the EJ draft. It was just bad timing. We were finally going for a QB in a year that turned out to be TERRIBLE for QB's. Even with the miss on EJ, we still managed to turn that draft into getting big time contributors in Robert Woods and Lesean Mccoy. Also Goodwin, but who knows what to feel on him

[FlyingDutchman]

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I also think Whaley's aggressiveness and Pegulas willingness to spend (that we've seen so far) is going to pay out very well in the long term

[Albany,n.y.]

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Technically Nix.

Nix retired a few weeks after the draft in May and I believe the Hughes trade happened after the draft in April.

that said if you want to put EJ on Whaley then Hughes goes to Whaley as well, but I do not put EJ on Whaley so not Hughes. He gets credit for resigning him though.

The man who doesn't get enough blame for EJ is the guy who quit on us after giving up on his QB. Marrone is the one who wanted the guy who had all the prototypical physical features. He specifically mentioned hand size when EJ was drafted. He had to have huge input into not drafting Nassib.

[djjimkelly]

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ive liked whaley the whole time

preston brown cordy glenn the list he has picked is very solid

[Mahdi]

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ive liked whaley the whole time

preston brown cordy glenn the list he has picked is very solid

He didn't draft Glenn.

[Jimkelly12203]

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I haven't gone into hiding... Whaley has had many successes. Just look at the roster. But the two stupidest decisions he has made were also the two most critical. #1, of all the years to blow a first round pick on the QB, they had to set their sights on the EJ Manuel / Geno Smith year. That's something dumb teams do. #2, you then double down in one of the deepest WR drafts of the last 10 years and use two first round picks on Watkins and that's AFTER you've seen that EJ is not accurate enough to be a worthy franchise QB. These are decisions that dumb GMs make. It's arguable that you don't spend 200 million dollars on two DLmen and 50 million on another (I don't know what Kyle makes but I think it's around 6 - 7 M/year. I don't begrudge him that last piece because I love our DL. But it is a rather "unusual" arrangement as Belicheck the scum pointed out.

[GreedoII]

Re: Whaley is an excellent GM!

Since the Whaley bashers have gone into hiding I decided to throw my praise on Whaley. He has had to make some tough decisions as well as building a rosetr that is young, talented, and dynamic.

Some highlights:

1) Don't care what you say but trading McCoy for Kiko was an excellent decision.

2) Signing Clay. Finally the real tight end we've been looking for. Watching Chandler in that New England game was the highlight of a tough game.

3) Sending Jackson packing. Tough decision but at the end of the day it was the right one. Karlos has looked crazy good.

4) Resigning Dareus and Hughes. Good contracts and excellent value for both parties.

5) Harvin. He has looked terrific.

6) Incognito. Another terrific signing.

7) Tyrod Taylor. Yes Rex will get credit but you need a GM to sign off on these decisions.

The only decision I have to give hime crap on is Bryce Brown. I admit I am a Bryce Brown homer and wish we could have kept him over Boobie Dixon. BTW, rumor is that he might be a Jet.

Hate away!!

Don;t mind McCoy but don't like the fact they threw 40 mil at him. I would have waited to do that.

[BuffaloRedleg]

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If he gets us to the playoffs and to being a regularly competitive football club then yeah absolutely.

That has yet to be seen yet, however.

[Joe Fo Sho]

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I haven't gone into hiding... Whaley has had many successes. Just look at the roster. But the two stupidest decisions he has made were also the two most critical. #1, of all the years to blow a first round pick on the QB, they had to set their sights on the EJ Manuel / Geno Smith year. That's something dumb teams do. #2, you then double down in one of the deepest WR drafts of the last 10 years and use two first round picks on Watkins and that's AFTER you've seen that EJ is not accurate enough to be a worthy franchise QB. These are decisions that dumb GMs make. It's arguable that you don't spend 200 million dollars on two DLmen and 50 million on another (I don't know what Kyle makes but I think it's around 6 - 7 M/year. I don't begrudge him that last piece because I love our DL. But it is a rather "unusual" arrangement as Belicheck the scum pointed out.

I disliked the Sammy trade probably as much as anyone and I still don't want Whaley fired. I'm glad we have Sammy and I like him, I just don't like how we got him. It's also clear that he missed on a QB prospect in the 1st round. Those two draft picks combine for a questionable use of 3 1st round picks. That would absolutely be grounds for firing...if he had built a team around those 2 players. This is a solid team that can win despite those moves. If this team makes the playoffs, there's no way Whaley deserves to be fired. I doubt he would get canned even if we didn't make the playoffs, and I'd be OK with that. If every GM got released for missing on a QB high in the draft, there would be very few GMs left in this league.