Refs missed this call against Giants

[Skooby]

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Supposed to be automatically reviewed, in New York. Maybe we should send all the prostitutes directly to Jack the Ripper for night inspections, what could go wrong ?

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Refs were not the reason we lost that game. We can complain about the refs all we want, but the thing is if you need to rely on refs to win youre usually not going to anyways.

Bills need to control what they can control and the rest will fall into place

[Skooby]

Refs were not the reason we lost that game. We can complain about the refs all we want, but the thing is if you need to rely on refs to win youre usually not going to anyways.

Bills need to control what they can control and the rest will fall into place

Like the 2 TD's the refs took from the Bills and gave 2 to the Giants ?? You do have a visual on this correct? It was a scoring play that needs to be reviewed, from start to finish. Think this was missed on a 3rd down ? You can't play 2 teams on Sunday, refs / opponents.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Like the 2 TD's the refs took from the Bills and gave 2 to the Giants ?? You do have a visual on this correct? It was a scoring play that needs to be reviewed, from start to finish. Think this was missed on a 3rd down ? You can't play 2 teams on Sunday, refs / opponents.

Holding was the right call. I will say the chop block was iffy, but still you really want to blame the refs when incognito was stupid enough to try to take out the legs of another player thats 100% locked up and blocked?

Are you talking about the FG that the Bills got called for as one of the given touchdowns? Because that was 150% a penalty, sure maybe the ref should have warned him and tried to move him first, but do you seriously want to blame the damn refs for Kyle Williams not knowing you cant cover up the center on a Field goal? I've played football 8 years (high school and low level college) and I find it hard to believe that someone who's started in the NFL as long as I played my whole career doesnt know that rule.

The NFL does not have a vendetta against Buffalo. The Refs do not have a vendetta against Buffalo. Are we on a shorter leash than some teams when it comes to personal fouls? Absolutely, but thats not because the league hates us, its because Rex ALLOWS it to go on and cant control his team.

The reffing in the NFL this year has been horrendous. And I mean the whole league, not just against Buffalo. You cant honestly look at a team who is on pace to rack up the most penalties in NFL history and has DOUBLE the personal fouls of any other team and decide that it all must be the refs fault.

Im not arguing that this should have been reviewed, and probably should have been taken away. Even if this was a third down by the time he stepped out in this picture he still had the first down. All this would have done is let the Giants take even more time off the clock before scoring.

[sukie]

This was milk spilled last week. It's sour already.

[Ingtar33]

you got it backwards. that chop block was not iffy. that chop block was the very definition of a "chop block". if you don't call that, then there is no point to the penalty. the holding was the worst form of BS i've seen in a while. every down against the giants someone on the bills dline was getting held far worse and it was almost never called.

[Meathead]

the bills lost bc they couldnt run, couldnt stop the run, and let the giants play them like punk ass *****es

[MillsapsBillsFan]

you got it backwards. that chop block was not iffy. that chop block was the very definition of a "chop block". if you don't call that, then there is no point to the penalty. the holding was the worst form of BS i've seen in a while. every down against the giants someone on the bills dline was getting held far worse and it was almost never called.

The only reason I said iffy was because the "textbook definition" of a chop block says the contact has to be lower than what he did. But I do agree that it should have been called. The holding wasnt called because it was so egregious it was more because of the location of it, theres a huge difference between holding someone at the line of scrimmage and holding someone way back there behind the line and directly in front of the ref.

[GreedoII]

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Supposed to be automatically reviewed, in New York. Maybe we should send all the prostitutes directly to Jack the Ripper for night inspections, what could go wrong ?

who cares anymore..stop lamenting. Move on...

[gebobs]

We'll all feel better when we throttle the Titans.

[BuffaloRedleg]

You never lose because of just one thing, so saying we didn't lose because of penalties is a straw man and a really weak argument.

You lose for a lot of reasons, and poor referees can be one of those things.

Last Sunday, it was one of those things.

[Victor7]

Bills played a poor game and like BuffaloRedleg says you can lose for more than one reason.

This past Sunday enemy No. was the Bills themselves with poor play and even poorer discipline.

With that said there is zero, none, nothing, nada doubt that the NFL referees affected the outcome unfavorably for us. This is not debatable. Forget the hold and the chop penalties which are indeed arguable. This play right here should not have been a td and it was. Boom 7 points off the board. Its that simple.

So while we didn't loose exclusively because of the zebras they sure had their share of blame in our demise.

[Goobylal]

The refs were horrible. Add in the fact that the Giants were taking liberties like, I don't know, punching players, which is automatic ejection, and it's no wonder they lost. But that's why people are starting to say that the NFL is becoming unwatchable because it looks crooked. They better do something soon about this.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

You never lose because of just one thing, so saying we didn't lose because of penalties is a straw man and a really weak argument.

You lose for a lot of reasons, and poor referees can be one of those things.

Last Sunday, it was one of those things.

I'm with you. It just seems like some people lean on the refs saying thats the only we lost. It a reason, not the whole one.

But I think everyone can agree that NFL reffing has been god-awful this season and something needs to be done

[BuffaloRedleg]

I'm with you. It just seems like some people lean on the refs saying thats the only we lost. It a reason, not the whole one.

But I think everyone can agree that NFL reffing has been god-awful this season and something needs to be done

Yeah no doubt about that, and especially as a person who has season tickets this drives me absolutely batty.

I just want to make sure we don't let the NFL off the hook with this. We have all these things like challenges and booth reviews and whatever that slow down the flow of a game to an absolute crawl, I want something to show for it. Right now, all the crap they do to get things right is not only not increasing anyone's perception that the games are being accurately refereed AND make the game borderline unwatchable at times.

Now this garbage has poisoned hockey, for those who watched the game last night.

[Famous Amos]

It seemed like every time the Giants ran up the middle they would get 5 yards. We couldn't stop their running backs.
Everyone Manning dropped back, he'd get the the ball out way before our d line could get to him.
Our special teams sucked.
Bad penalties, these are the reasons Buffalo lost and they earned that lost, that game sucked.

[starrymessenger]

The two dimensional still makes it look like contact with the ground occurred out of bounds. While the left foot was out I'm not sure it touched outside the field of play.
a chop block is when the point of contact is the thigh or below. Cogs made contact at the waist. So not a chop block technically speaking.

[Novacane]

The mother ****ing refs cost me $70 on fanduel with that chop block call. I had Tyrod and Clay and finished out of the money by 6/100th of a point! :mad:

[gebobs]

The mother ****ing refs cost me $70 on fanduel with that chop block call. I had Tyrod and Clay and finished out of the money by 6/100th of a point! :mad:

Please. No one wants to hear another thing about Fanduel or Draftkings.

[gebobs]

We'll all feel better when we throttle the Titans.

And full cycle after we lose to Cinci.

[Skooby]

Looking back at the last time we played Cincy, it was pretty close. I think we're much deeper now, I personally think we trounce them.

[Novacane]

Looking back at the last time we played Cincy, it was pretty close. I think we're much deeper now, I personally think we trounce them.


It's possible. If they can pressure Dalton he's capable of one of those awful games. I thought Manning would have one of those games last week but the pressure wasn't there. Dalton is also capable of a huge day if they don't get pressure.

[Oaf]

We lost because we held, not because we got called for holding.

[Goobylal]

We lost because we held, not because we got called for holding.
More like we lost because they held and didn't get called for it. Among other things.

[gebobs]

Looking back at the last time we played Cincy, it was pretty close. I think we're much deeper now, I personally think we trounce them.

Depth? Where? At kicker?

[chernobylwraiths]

How is that a chop block? Chop block is a hit on an engaged lineman below the waist. He hit him in the waist. You need to hit a guy in the thigh or lower to be considered a chop block.

[Skooby]

How is that a chop block? Chop block is a hit on an engaged lineman below the waist. He hit him in the waist. You need to hit a guy in the thigh or lower to be considered a chop block.

You tell them Big Al.

[BrianCarr]

This was milk spilled last week. It's sour already.Depends on what temperature the floor is.

[yordad]

you got it backwards. that chop block was not iffy. that chop block was the very definition of a "chop block". if you don't call that, then there is no point to the penalty. the holding was the worst form of BS i've seen in a while. every down against the giants someone on the bills dline was getting held far worse and it was almost never called.How, he hit him ABOVE the waist. There isn't even a debate. It was a legal block all day.

[paladin warrior]

Rex should have throw red flag . ref are f c k it blind .