An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

[blackonyx89]

Love the Bills, but it seems like no matter what they do, they keep falling short! Be honest and upfront, do you sometimes think that this team is jinxed and snakebitten beyond belief?
I do sometimes......

[Mr. Pink]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Nope, for the past 15 years the front office/coaching staff is disorganized and inept.

They reap what they sow.

[Mace]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Mostly I think I'm a snakebitten fan. If I lived in New England or Green Bay, they'd suck. whole thing is probably my fault for living here and liking football.

[blackonyx89]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Nope, for the past 15 years the front office/coaching staff is disorganized and inept.

They reap what they sow.

That definitely seems to be the case, a merry-go-round of ineptitude and failure..........

[Mr. Pink]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Mostly I think I'm a snakebitten fan. If I lived in New England or Green Bay, they'd suck. whole thing is probably my fault for living here and liking football.

Don't be such a defeatist! Just because both franchises here have hit historical levels of ineptness doesn't mean it happens in every sports town in America. Well, except maybe Cleveland, but that LeBron guy might have something to say about that.

[Ingtar33]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Love the Bills, but it seems like no matter what they do, they keep falling short! Be honest and upfront, do you sometimes think that this team is jinxed and snakebitten beyond belief?
I do sometimes......

Only if you consider someone who does not know how to handle snakes getting bitten by a cobra when he plays with it jinxed

Its pretty much self inflicted. There is a reason certain franchises are good for decades. it's not a mistake, it's the skill of the people in charge. Bill Polian when asked about FA and the changes it would make on the game said "it won't change anything, the teams that draft well will sign the right free agents, the teams that can't draft well will still sign the wrong ones." Teams pretty much make their own fortune. Granted having a franchise QB helps a lot, but it's not like we haven't had a swing at them. Carson Palmer isn't anything amazing but look at what the Cardinals are doing with him. He was available x2 for us and our front office never looked at him. Same for Payton Manning and Drew Brees; heck we skipped on Aaron Rodgers too.

Whining about there not being any franchise QBs in the draft 2 years ago when we drafted Manuel isn't an excuse for drafting a 3rd round talent in round one. Nor is it an excuse for passing on both Carson Palmer and Payton Manning the previous off season. No one put a gun to our heads and forced us to draft an above average 3rd down running back (Spiller), or further compound our problems with 3 RBs chosen in the first round over the past 15 years. We had fred jackson and willis mcgahee, decided to draft Marshawn Lynch, then just a few years later traded him for a handful of magic beans and drafted spiller. We did that to ourselves. No one forced us to not resign Fat Pat Williams, or run Aaron Schobel out of town, it only took us 8 years, 100 mil, a 3rd rounder and a 1st rounder to replace them. No one forced us to chose Robosack over Flutie, or to cut Reed, Thomas and Smith on the same day.

This team has been sabotaging itself ever since Butler's last season.

[Guest]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Location. Location. Location.

[sahlensguy]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Mostly I think I'm a snakebitten fan. If I lived in New England or Green Bay, they'd suck. whole thing is probably my fault for living here and liking football.

Same here, but I've lived in Utah for the last 25 years. You would think having two top fifty players of all time and a HOF coach all in their basketball primes, would have allowed me to relish in a championship at some point. But noo, Michael Jordan had to get the flu and then play lights out.

It's not the teams, it's me.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Same here, but I've lived in Utah for the last 25 years. You would think having two top fifty players of all time and a HOF coach all in their basketball primes, would have allowed me to relish in a championship at some point. But noo, Michael Jordan had to get the flu and then play lights out.

It's not the teams, it's me.

That MJ guy infuriated a lot of fanbases.

Remember when the Cavs were gonna be the team of the 90s? Michael Jordan decided to not allow that to happen.

[Thurmal]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

It is weird. When Graham took that pick to the house, my very first thought was, "we're gonna give up a gamie-winning TD on the next drive." It makes you feel pessimisstic and negative to think like that, but, with the Bills, you're always right!

[justasportsfan]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Could be. Our glory days of this franchise were 4 superbowl losses. We're still looking to replace the coach and qb that brought us 4 sb losses

[blackonyx89]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

That MJ guy infuriated a lot of fanbases.

Remember when the Cavs were gonna be the team of the 90s? Michael Jordan decided to not allow that to happen.

So painful to root for them and I still do. It may well be the case that there are some NFL teams that exist because their fans love them no matter what, but may never win a Super Bowl and if that's the case, it would be a miracle! The other day my brother said if Lebron James can't bring an NBA Championship to Cleveland, then there's no hope for smaller market teams in professional sports.

List of NFL Snakebitten Franchises

Buffalo
Minnesota
Tennessee
Detroit
Cleveland
Falcons?

The suffering continues..........


If there are more, feel free to add!

[Ingtar33]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

The other day my brother said if Lebron James can't bring an NBA Championship to Cleveland, then there's no hope for smaller market teams in professional sports.

That's a specious argument. The cavs are run by a bunch of monkeys, and LeBron James is not a "winner". LeBron James is the best player in the NBA today, there is no argument from me about that. However he does not make everyone around him better. He simply carries the people around him. There is a big difference between someone who caries a team and someone who can make everyone around them better. A superstar can do either, unfortunately only winners can do the later. This is why LeBron, while a superstar, is not a "winner" and will always seem to come up just short of expectations.

I think the Packers would like to have a word with you about "small market" teams having no chance.

[Discotrish]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Love the Bills, but it seems like no matter what they do, they keep falling short! Be honest and upfront, do you sometimes think that this team is jinxed and snakebitten beyond belief?
I do sometimes......

I wouldn't call their ongoing failures to draft quality offensive linemen "snakebitten."

It's a choice.

Patti

[Victor7]

Re: An honest question. Do you think the Bills are a snake bitten franchise?

Yes.

1000000% certain we are cursed.

The thing is I though it would go away once Ralph passed away. Seems to me like its still pretty much the same. Maybe we need to get rid of all of his stench. In other words. Doug Whaley and Russ Brandon to finally be 100% clean from it.