Is This The Last Year For Mario Williams In A Bills Uniform?

[BillsImpossible]

Mario Williams has a $20 million cap hit in 2016. His dead cap hit would be $7 million.

IF the Bills trade Mario Williams in the 2016 NFL Draft, does the dead cap hit count?

He doesn't fit in Rex Ryan's defense for that kind of money.

Rex is going to create his defense in the image of himself, not Jim Schwartz.

I'm anticipating a serious defensive overhaul in 2016.

Take a look at this incredibly long list of 2016 NFL Free Agents:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

The Bills will have to resign Richie Incognito next year.

If Tyrod Taylor continues his excellent play and takes the Bills to the playoffs, that's another big contract.

Nigel Bradham is also a free agent in 2016, but that's kind of trivial.

Gilmore has an $11 million cap hit in 2016.

The Bills are in serious salary cap jail.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

The Bills have $119,385 of salary cap space to work with in 2016.

Freeing up $19.9 million worth of cap space would help.

[OpIv37]

Check your math. You didn't subtract the dead cap for Mario. It would be more like $12.9 million.

[BillsImpossible]

Check your math. You didn't subtract the dead cap for Mario. It would be more like $12.9 million.

That's this year, $13.9 million.

Next year is $7 million.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/mario-williams/

IF the Bills trade him, does the dead cap money count?

[Mace]

19.9 cap, 7 million dead, 12.9 savings in 2016 if booted. Yes, dead cap is on the books.

Yes might be the last we have him, or he renegotiates for longer and less with a guaranteed chunk.

[Mr. Pink]

I would say a restructure would be far more likely than him just being released.

Athletes like restructures, it gives them more guaranteed money up front.

[BillsImpossible]

19.9 cap, 7 million dead, 12.9 savings in 2016 if booted. Yes, dead cap is on the books.

Yes might be the last we have him, or he renegotiates for longer and less with a guaranteed chunk.

$12.9 million in savings if the Bills cut him, with a $7 million dead cap hit.

I get that. Thanks for clarifying.

But what if he gets traded?

Does the dead cap money count if they trade him?

Anyone know?

[Mace]

$12.9 million in savings if the Bills cut him, with a $7 million dead cap hit.

I get that. Thanks for clarifying.

But what if he gets traded?

Does the dead cap money count if they trade him?

Anyone know?

Yes, it counts. It's basically money paid and cost deferred from previous guarantees and bonuses.

[BertSquirtgum]

Mario Williams has a $20 million cap hit in 2016. His dead cap hit would be $7 million.

IF the Bills trade Mario Williams in the 2016 NFL Draft, does the dead cap hit count?

He doesn't fit in Rex Ryan's defense for that kind of money.

Rex is going to create his defense in the image of himself, not Jim Schwartz.

I'm anticipating a serious defensive overhaul in 2016.

Take a look at this incredibly long list of 2016 NFL Free Agents:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

The Bills will have to resign Richie Incognito next year.

If Tyrod Taylor continues his excellent play and takes the Bills to the playoffs, that's another big contract.

Nigel Bradham is also a free agent in 2016, but that's kind of trivial.

Gilmore has an $11 million cap hit in 2016.

The Bills are in serious salary cap jail.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

The Bills have $119,385 of salary cap space to work with in 2016.

Freeing up $19.9 million worth of cap space would help.

Is this the last year for Mario Williams in a Bills uniform? No. /thread.

[BillsImpossible]

I think this answers my own question, but I need the help of Billszone interpreters to understand it.

Mario Williams had a $19 million signing bonus.

Is it, 'unamortized,'

What the hell does that mean?

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/2/23/4017138/salary-cap-101-proration-amortization-cap-hits-dead-money-and-more

Player cut or traded
If a player is cut before the end of his contract, the entire unamortized signing bonus money (the remaining prorated bonus money) accelerates immediately and counts against the 2013 salary cap.
The same rule applies when a player is traded or picked up by another team off the waiver wire. The signing bonus remaining on the player's contract accelerates into his old team's salary cap in 2013. The new team takes no cap hit whatsoever.

[coastal]

Please God!

[BillsImpossible]

Is this the last year for Mario Williams in a Bills uniform? No. /thread.

Then how in the hell are they going to sign anyone next year?

Sure, the salary cap will go up, but not nearly enough to sign Incognito and a quarterback too.

Somebody's got to go if the Bills want to pay the water guys next year.

[Mace]

I think this answers my own question, but I need the help of Billszone interpreters to understand it.

Mario Williams had a $19 million signing bonus.

Is it, 'unamortized,'

What the hell does that mean?

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/2/23/4017138/salary-cap-101-proration-amortization-cap-hits-dead-money-and-more

Player cut or traded
If a player is cut before the end of his contract, the entire unamortized signing bonus money (the remaining prorated bonus money) accelerates immediately and counts against the 2013 salary cap.
The same rule applies when a player is traded or picked up by another team off the waiver wire. The signing bonus remaining on the player's contract accelerates into his old team's salary cap in 2013. The new team takes no cap hit whatsoever.




Best to think of it simple.

Dead money is the salary cap space a team must allocate to a particular player who has been cut. It serves as a device to ensure that every dollar a team has paid players is eventually allocated to that team's salary cap.

If we already gave him any money, it will always count one way or another, even if deferred. His bonus was spread out over the contract, next year that's the 7 million deferred that we already paid him.

Now if you want to get more complex, you can unamortize your amortization, or amortize your unamortized which will leave you either mortized or entirely dismortized meaning you need to remortize pretty darn fast or your unmortized which means you need to reamortized mortizations reamortizing the unmortizement to unmortise the reamortization you mortized. You just don't want to go there and best you think of it as money we paid him will always cost us.

[BillsImpossible]

Best to think of it simple.

Dead money is the salary cap space a team must allocate to a particular player who has been cut. It serves as a device to ensure that every dollar a team has paid players is eventually allocated to that team's salary cap.

If we already gave him any money, it will always count one way or another, even if deferred. His bonus was spread out over the contract, next year that's the 7 million deferred that we already paid him.

Now if you want to get more complex, you can unamortize your amortization, or amortize your unamortized which will leave you either mortized or entirely dismortized meaning you need to remortize pretty darn fast or your unmortized which means you need to reamortized mortizations reamortizing the unmortizement to unmortise the reamortization you mortized. You just don't want to go there and best you think of it as money we paid him will always cost us.

That was seriously funny!

After a good laugh, thanks to Mace, the big question remains.

How can the Bills sign anyone next year without getting out the cleaver?

Who gets chopped?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/216fTfRzJpL._SS160_.jpg

[MillsapsBillsFan]

I think this answers my own question, but I need the help of Billszone interpreters to understand it.

Mario Williams had a $19 million signing bonus.

Is it, 'unamortized,'

What the hell does that mean?

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/2/23/4017138/salary-cap-101-proration-amortization-cap-hits-dead-money-and-more

Player cut or traded
If a player is cut before the end of his contract, the entire unamortized signing bonus money (the remaining prorated bonus money) accelerates immediately and counts against the 2013 salary cap.
The same rule applies when a player is traded or picked up by another team off the waiver wire. The signing bonus remaining on the player's contract accelerates into his old team's salary cap in 2013. The new team takes no cap hit whatsoever.




It means it all hits in one year. If it were amortized it would be spread out over a number of years.

[kingJofNYC]

One of the worst pass productivity grades this season. He feasts on bums.

[stuckincincy]

I just don't understand BUF's penchant for purchasing "name" marquee players. It's not as if they need a boost in gate - they sell out year after year. Add in all the goofy drafting and trade-ups and tossing big $$$ year after year to pass-through qbs in their eternal quest to get a new Kelly.

What an oddball club they are... :stretcher

[jamze132]

One of the worst pass productivity grades this season. He feasts on bums.

You have to consider he also is not getting the opportunity to go after the QB because stupid coach has him in coverage. But that's none of my business.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I just don't understand BUF's penchant for purchasing "name" marquee players. It's not as if they need a boost in gate - they sell out year after year. Add in all the goofy drafting and trade-ups and tossing big $$$ year after year to pass-through qbs in their eternal quest to get a new Kelly.

What an oddball club they are... :stretcher

Mario was a player in his physical prime at a position of dire need. He's given us 3 years of double-digit sacks and two pro bowl nods. He didn't ask to play under four different DCs in four seasons, and he didn't insist that we turn our offense over to Tire Fire Manuel.

[Cleve]

Why the worries about Defense... again? Why does it need to be "overhauled"? The Bills have slipped considerably in 2015 vs 2014 (Good old foot fondling Rex's magic touch?); falling from 4th to 11th in total yards, and from 3rd to 17th in passing yards, but they still rank ahead of Green Bay and Cincinnati, and are neck and neck with the Patriots - those teams seem to be doing "ok" with their inferior defenses.

The problem has been, is, will be, the lack of a friggin QUARTERBACK on this team!!! That's been the team's most desperate need for at least a decade. Jeez!!!

[Ingtar33]

as much as i hate the idea of cutting williams, if Ryan is going to use him as an outside linebacker covering running backs $20mil is too much.

i never thought i'd see the day a 10-15 sack a year pass rusher would become a "liability" and a "poor fit" for any defensive scheme but ryan somehow managed to do it.

[Luisito23]

i never thought i'd see the day a 10-15 sack a year pass rusher would become a "liability" and a "poor fit" for any defensive scheme but ryan somehow managed to do it.

This is the same idiot that had IK guarding a RB at the goal line...

[BertSquirtgum]

Then how in the hell are they going to sign anyone next year?

Sure, the salary cap will go up, but not nearly enough to sign Incognito and a quarterback too.

Somebody's got to go if the Bills want to pay the water guys next year.

I know you're an attention whore that likes to post **** that's been talked about a hundred times. So, I will just say that they will rework the deal and he will continue being a Buffalo Bills next year.

[Mr. Cynical]

I'd have zero issues with moving him if it meant saving money for other players. I've never been a fan of his - waaaaaaaaaay too much money for what you get - a good pass rusher that takes plays off, and feasts in garbage time to pad his stats. He's not an every down elite player who gives 100% all the time, disrupts offenses and dictates the tempo. He'd be better off going to a team as a pass rush specialist, playing 50% of the snaps, and calling it a day.

[coastal]

I'd have zero issues with moving him if it meant saving money for other players. I've never been a fan of his - waaaaaaaaaay too much money for what you get - a good pass rusher that takes plays off, and feasts in garbage time to pad his stats. He's not an every down elite player who gives 100% all the time, disrupts offenses and dictates the tempo. He'd be better off going to a team as a pass rush specialist, playing 50% of the snaps, and calling it a day.freaking thank you!!!!!!

[stuckincincy]

Mario was a player in his physical prime at a position of dire need. He's given us 3 years of double-digit sacks and two pro bowl nods. He didn't ask to play under four different DCs in four seasons, and he didn't insist that we turn our offense over to Tire Fire Manuel.

The franchise has been in dire need at many positions for many years. Buying up high-priced marquee players hasn't worked out well.

[BertSquirtgum]

People that think Mario isnt good are idiots.

[BillsImpossible]

I know you're an attention whore that likes to post **** that's been talked about a hundred times. So, I will just say that they will rework the deal and he will continue being a Buffalo Bills next year.

I'm not an attention whore, I'm a Bills whore. Total slut I am.

I have no shame.

If I was an attention whore, I'd be on Facebook with all of my imaginary friends.

Mario's not the kind of guy that's going to restructure his contract.

I think he's legitimate trade bait. The Bills can't afford him.

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People that think Mario isnt good are idiots.

He's good, but he's not $20 million good.

[coastal]

People that think Mario isnt good are idiots.
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