You're Pegula. What do you do in the offseason?

[Mr. Cynical]

Choose...

[TacklingDummy]

Tank for Cook or whoever the highest rated QB is this draft.

[Mike]

Do what he did with the Sabres

Blow up the Team Tank for the next Top Prospect.

- - - Updated - - -

Next Luck Type QB

[Mr. Pink]

Fire Whaley and Ryan.

Hire Eliot Wolf or Eric DeCosta. Either one would take a lot of work and probably a boatload of money.

Only problem with DeCosta is he may end up bringing in McDaniels as HC.

[Mr. Cynical]

I think they both need to be shown the door. I like Rex's passion, but that's also his weakness. While I don't want a repeat of Jauron the Cryptkeeper, they need a disciplined head coach that can take advantage of these kids' talents. Letting the inmates run the asylum hasn't worked, and that's the only way Rex can coach (his words, actually)

[YardRat]

He didn't listen to me last year, I have no reason to believe he will now.

[Historian]

Do whatever it takes to find a real QB.

Laugh at the 60K plus renewals.

Count my money

[Jan Reimers]

Fire Ryan. His coaching is inexcusable. He is a huge pile of excrement with a loud, stupid mouth on top.

[DraftBoy]

My heart says blow the team up and start over...and what I mean by that is that this:
1. Fire Whaley and Ryan and the entire coaching staff
2. Hire DeCosta or Wolf (h/t to Mr. Pink, he and I both have been calling for DeCosta for nearly a decade)
3. Every veteran is on the trade market (Mario, Marcel, Hughes, A. Williams, Graham, Wood, McCoy, R. Woods, etc.) and all I want back is picks in the 2016 and 2017 draft.
4. Resign Glenn and Gilmore.

In my head what I think will actually happen is:
1. They commit to finding a new QB, and probably a guy like RGIII.
2. Resign Gilmore or Glenn.
3. We get to be around .500 again.

[Victor7]

Fire Whaley about 0.001 seconds after the year ends.

Put Ryan on notice that if the defense does not go back to the elite level it had before he got here he's next.

Make Russ Brandon disappear from the face of the earth. At the very least send him on whatever mission to the farthest place on earth. Far far from the team. The North and South Poles are options.

[EDS]

I would have fired Whaley last year and never hired Rex. But, if I were Pegula now I would just sleep in the bed I made for a another year. Then, if they do not make the playoffs again, I would completely clean house.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Choose...

I like how the only logical and most probable option comes with the backhanded comment that we'll miss the playoffs next year if you choose it.

Like firing the Head Coach/GM or blowing up the entire roster isn't going to end up with us missing the playoffs next year.

[Mr. Pink]

My heart says blow the team up and start over...and what I mean by that is that this:
1. Fire Whaley and Ryan and the entire coaching staff
2. Hire DeCosta or Wolf (h/t to Mr. Pink, he and I both have been calling for DeCosta for nearly a decade)
3. Every veteran is on the trade market (Mario, Marcel, Hughes, A. Williams, Graham, Wood, McCoy, R. Woods, etc.) and all I want back is picks in the 2016 and 2017 draft.
4. Resign Glenn and Gilmore.

In my head what I think will actually happen is:
1. They commit to finding a new QB, and probably a guy like RGIII.
2. Resign Gilmore or Glenn.
3. We get to be around .500 again.

DeCosta and Kirk Ferentz is my dream pair up.

I've been touting both of those guys names forever now it seems :rofl:

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I would demand that the team return to a 4-3 front and stay there. The constant flopping between 3-4, 4-3, and hybrid fronts is what's throwing our players off. But what's clear is that we haven't built a really successful 3-4 team since Wade Phillips left.

I think the roster is generally too set on defense to start cutting and slashing veterans and the cap is too tight to make major moves, so the best bet is to return to the scheme this talent fits - ie what we should have done when Marrone left.

We should also explore a trade up for a QB this year - the top teams in the draft are likely to be ones like San Diego, Tennessee, and Dallas who already have QB options and might be willing to listen to offers.

[Cleve]

I don't like this topic simply because Russ Brandon wasn't included. It seems fashionable to exclude him from all responsibility for the on-field product; but his finger prints are all over this team.

[Turf]

The lack of attention to detail is what makes me give up hope on this coaching staff. They just aren't smart enough, they don't have it in them. X's and O guys, hell yeah they've been around it their whole lives and talk the talk and know the lingo. Elite coaching material? No. Zero skill in game management.

[Skooby]

Whaley has to go until the Bills win next week, then he'll be a genius keeper. So I took fire him only so I can change my mind again, Prozac willing of course.

[Night Train]

If I'm Pegula, I sit at my laptop in Boca and make 5 star resort reservations for Saint Croix.

He's a dumb fan with big money. He needs a football consultant to help him.

[Cleve]

Pegula is basically repeating, with his ownership of the Bills, the same blunders he made when he took over the Sabres. Don't get me wrong - it's awesome that Terry Pegula bought the teams, and they'll remain in Buffalo in perpetuity. But still, one should learn from one's mistakes.

[OpIv37]

Pegula is basically repeating, with his ownership of the Bills, the same blunders he made when he took over the Sabres. Don't get me wrong - it's awesome that Terry Pegula bought the teams, and they'll remain in Buffalo in perpetuity. But still, one should learn from one's mistakes.

Couldn't agree more. Whaley will say that the lack of a first round pick from Nix held him back, and look what he did with Darby, Miller and K Williams. Rex will say he was hampered by injuries and the players need more time to learn his system. Pegula will believe their BS just like he did with Regier and Ruff, and we will suffer through another couple years of mediocrity before breaking it down and starting over.

[OpIv37]

I just hope Pegula doesn't become the next Snyder and think he can make all the team's problems go away by throwing money at them.

I know, someone will say "you always criticized Ralph for not spending and now you are criticizing Pegula for spending too much- which is it?" But I've always maintained that they have to spend wisely. McCoy looks like he was worth the money. Hughes- not so much. Clay- it's too soon to tell. He's had his ups and downs and I think the downs are more on Roman and Tyrod than Clay himself.

[Mace]

I'm off to Bali, why is it I was dorking around in Buffalo again anyway ?

[stuckincincy]

I would have fired Whaley last year and never hired Rex. But, if I were Pegula now I would just sleep in the bed I made for a another year. Then, if they do not make the playoffs again, I would completely clean house.

Sounds like the plan.

They will have to find a way to finance their key FAs, what with the lousy cap situation.

2016 FA list:

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/buffalo-bills/

[BuffaloRedleg]

Tanking doesn't work in the NFL, you guys should know this by now. That is the type of logic that got us in this trouble in the first place- don't waste a pick on a QB unless he is a "homerun." Well, you had plenty of opportunities to draft 1st round talent over the years but waited until the EJ draft when there were none to pick from.

You can draft a QB 15ish next year and develop him just fine. He can learn behind Tyrod who can start for a year or so or whenever he gets injured. Not having a top 5 pick is not an excuse.

I'd also like to go one offseason without 50% coaching staff turnover, however unpopular Rex may be right now.

[Mace]

I'd also like to go one offseason without 50% coaching staff turnover, however unpopular Rex may be right now.

You wouldn't care whatever in Bali though. Bali is the only real choice here.

[chris66]

If I'm Pegula, I sit at my laptop in Boca and make 5 star resort reservations for Saint Croix.

He's a dumb fan with big money. He needs a football consultant to help him.
He definitely needs a football guy to run the entire football op. Pegula essentially paid 5 mill for a dc.

[X-Era]

My heart says blow the team up and start over...and what I mean by that is that this:
1. Fire Whaley and Ryan and the entire coaching staff
2. Hire DeCosta or Wolf (h/t to Mr. Pink, he and I both have been calling for DeCosta for nearly a decade)
3. Every veteran is on the trade market (Mario, Marcel, Hughes, A. Williams, Graham, Wood, McCoy, R. Woods, etc.) and all I want back is picks in the 2016 and 2017 draft.
4. Resign Glenn and Gilmore.

In my head what I think will actually happen is:
1. They commit to finding a new QB, and probably a guy like RGIII.
2. Resign Gilmore or Glenn.
3. We get to be around .500 again.

I was about to blast this when I read the line about putting all the vets on the market. But...

I'd want to keep the roster in tact if we were in win now mode and felt Rex can get us there. The team made big investments feeling they had a playoff caliber roster. But if you fire Rex the players may not fit the new coaches and schemes. I have little faith Rex can get us to the playoffs. If you fire him you're in rebuild mode. In that situation, most of those vets are replaceable and would not gut the team to the point where it's a total rebuild. On your list:

I'd keep:
Marcell- He can be the core of the D. Kyle is gone, you're making Mario available. Keep him.

Hughes- He'll be just fine when he is actually used correctly again and under a coach who expects discipline I think he'll be brought in line

Woods- Dirt cheap and a solid #2. Why trade him?

Can go:
McCoy- The combination of Karlos and a relatively easy chance of landing a very good RB from the draft makes McCoy trade-able

Wood- Fine with moving on if we're in rebuild mode

Mario- The production doesn't justify the contract anymore. He's 30 and will start to decline. His problems this year are again being misused. But even if we get a real DC who uses him properly the potential production no longer justifies the contract.

Graham- He's solid but thats it. He can be replaced from FA or the draft

Kyle retires- DL becomes a priority, Dareus becomes the core and we go looking in the draft.

Bradham- We need an upgrade. Let him walk. Go to the draft.

Resign:
Glenn
Gilmore

On the QB:
Taylor- Let him continue to run the team. He's impressed me. Let him keep running it for now.

Draft- Were not getting the #1 pick in 2016 and there isn't a Luck. But we should still be looking to get a QB from this draft to compete. We should be drafting a QB every year until we find one that can be our future. But I don't rule out Tyrod as being that guy yet.

All that said, I think it's highly unlikely Rex is canned after this year. However, I bet he gets told he has to fire Thurman and possibly Roman and that both sides of the ball must play much better next year. Where the talent we have is much better utilized.

​I'd say that this post is one year early.

[Bill Cody]

I'm usually the sit back, look at the positives, voice of reason guy. That guy 's spirit is dead. New me. Fire Rex. Fire Whaley. Fire the ball boys. Fire the grounds crew. Fire till you run out of bodies to fire.

[feldspar]

I'm not Pegula.

I'll tell you what WILL happen. Nothing. The main core will remain in charge...QB, coach, GM, President, etc.

Just various roster changes.

[sukie]

I say stay the course... is there a course anyway after 11 games? to change up everything and start over yet again... new scheme... players starting from scratch...

Our good players on D will retire before there is any continuity.

[swiper]

What a horrible discussion to be having at this point of the year. We have to wait all year to get here. And people are talking about blowing it all up. Same Bills story for each of the past almost 20 years now.

[trapezeus]

I think starting over is the prudent thing to do. the current bills roster is the Stafford, vanek, roy, and prayers that we can get just good enough to squeak in.

I also think it is more expensive sticking with Mario, kyle,clay, etc because you are paying another year on a non guaranteed contract.And the coach is a guaranteed contract. So it is better to get the players he wants, than it is to make him work with pieces that don't fit his scheme.

[sukie]

I didn't expect playoffs in fact predicted 7-9 due to Oline and QB situations... and on a side... I hate the 3-4 but what do I know?

[Mr. Cynical]

can we all agree now that rex needs to go? so many penalties, so much undisciplined football at this stage of the season...and it's 100% a continuation of what he did in NY the past 4 years....(yet ny is gonna make it this year) ... he's got to go...pegula, wake up and smell the hot garbage

[Novacane]

can we all agree now that rex needs to go? so many penalties, so much undisciplined football at this stage of the season...and it's 100% a continuation of what he did in NY the past 4 years....he's go to go...pegula, wake up and smell the hot gabage



I don't know of any Rex defenders here.

[Mr. Pink]

can we all agree now that rex needs to go? so many penalties, so much undisciplined football at this stage of the season...and it's 100% a continuation of what he did in NY the past 4 years....(yet ny is gonna make it this year) ... he's got to go...pegula, wake up and smell the hot garbage

He should go and the search for a real QB should begin from a real NFL GM but it won't.

So you're looking at at least 2 more seasons of the Ryan show, before he's inevitably fired, the defense is dismantled and you're starting over in another rebuild process.

20 years of no playoffs is staring this franchise and fanbase straight in the face.

[swiper]

Get Schwartz back.

Keep Roman for now.

Get rid of Whaley. He only knows how to draft defense. He sucks at offense.

[Novacane]

Money shouldn't be the issue. He's a billionaire. They 20 mill he'd owe Rex is less than 1% of his net worth. Do the right thing. Don't waste another season! Pleeeeaaaassssse!

[Mr. Cynical]

He should go and the search for a real QB should begin from a real NFL GM but it won't.

So you're looking at at least 2 more seasons of the Ryan show, before he's inevitably fired, the defense is dismantled and you're starting over in another rebuild process.

20 years of no playoffs is staring this franchise and fanbase straight in the face.

I think if they miss again next year, he's def gone...jmo.

So using that logic, best case scenario....

New coach 2017 season, playoffs 2018 season. At least they have a chance to get there before hitting the 20 year mark (although that could make for some great tshirts for Russie boy to sell)

[Joe Fo Sho]

can we all agree now that rex needs to go? so many penalties, so much undisciplined football at this stage of the season...and it's 100% a continuation of what he did in NY the past 4 years....

No, it isn't.

The Jets have never finished worse than 9th in penalties under Rex and were actually 29th in penalties in 2012.

Where did the Bills finish in penalties last year under Marrone? Second.

[Mr. Cynical]

No, it isn't.

The Jets have never finished worse than 9th in penalties under Rex and were actually 29th in penalties in 2012.

Where did the Bills finish in penalties last year under Marrone? Second.

Wrong.

Jets were 13th most penalized in 2013, and 20th most penalized last year, so that's 2 years not 9th or better. And the Bills were 5th most last year, not second. This year they are 2nd in the league so going in the wrong direction.

Facts link:

http://www.nflpenalties.com/index.php?view=total&year=2014

But, if you want to defend Rex, go for it. He also took a #4 D in 2014 and turned it into a #20 D this year, and the Jets are #5.

And then there are the team records...

Jets...

2011: 8-8
2012: 6-10
2013: 8-8
2014: 4-12

Bills...

2015: Lucky to get 8-8.

But even more that the facts and numbers, it's the way the team is playing. They win when the raw talent makes it happen. They lose when the gameplan and discipline isn't there. That is on the coach, plain and simple.

[Mr. Cynical]

I don't know of any Rex defenders here.

joe fo sho might beg to differ

[SpikedLemonade]

If I was Pegula, I would take 2 or 3 viagras and screw Kim up the ass.

He has no clue about professional sports teams and should hire a top President for both teams.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Wrong.

Jets were 13th most penalized in 2013, and 20th most penalized last year, so that's 2 years not 9th or better. And the Bills were 5th most last year, not second. This year they are 2nd in the league so going in the wrong direction.

Sigh...9th is worse than both 13th and 20th, which is exactly what I said.


Facts link:

http://www.nflpenalties.com/index.php?view=total&year=2014

Do you think it would make sense to sort by regular season penalties? Maybe leave out the additional penalties that were given to playoff teams?

Here's the actual 'Facts link' :

http://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html?yr=2014

As you can see, the 2014 Bills are 2nd and the 2014 Jets are 19th. Whether the penalties this year are Rex's fault or not, this is not a pattern by his teams. This year is an outlier.


But, if you want to defend Rex, go for it. He also took a #4 D in 2014 and turned it into a #20 D this year, and the Jets are #5.

And then there are the team records...

Jets...

2011: 8-8
2012: 6-10
2013: 8-8
2014: 4-12

Bills...

2015: Lucky to get 8-8.

But even more that the facts and numbers, it's the way the team is playing. They win when the raw talent makes it happen. They lose when the gameplan and discipline isn't there. That is on the coach, plain and simple.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the one singular thing I defended Rex for.

[Joe Fo Sho]

joe fo sho might beg to differ

Yikes, I guess I should have just agreed with the false accusations you made.

My bad.

[Mr. Cynical]

Sigh...9th is worse than both 13th and 20th, which is exactly what I said.

You said, The Jets have never finished worse than 9th in penalties under Rex and were actually 29th in penalties in 2012.

That sounds more like an endorsement than not. It depends on how you mean "9th"...9th most penalized? or 9th least (21st most)?

Either way, doesn't matter, not going to get into a debate about Rex's ability to field a disciplined team. You are quite literally the only person I've ever heard saying that that is not an issue of his coaching.

[Mr. Cynical]

Get Schwartz back.

Be great to get him back but hard to see that happening the way he left.

[Joe Fo Sho]

You said, The Jets have never finished worse than 9th in penalties under Rex and were actually 29th in penalties in 2012.

That sounds more like an endorsement than not.

I was defending Rex against a false claim you made. That is not what an endorsement is.


It depends on how you mean "9th"...9th most penalized? or 9th least (21st most)?

This entire time both you and I have been using "1st" as in the most penalized team. I don't know why that's a question now. Being 9th in that category is worse than being 29th. Rex has never been worse than 9th, like I said.


Either way, doesn't matter

Because you're wrong?


You are quite literally the only person I've ever heard saying that that is not an issue of his coaching.

Did I say that it's not an issue? Man, some of you guys hear someone say 1 thing about a guy and assume 17 other things. I'm disagreeing with your statement that the penalties are "100% a continuation of what he did in NY the past 4 years." That's why that statement was bold when I first replied to you. That is simply not the case.

[BuffaloRedleg]

Yeah, because people are going to want to come coach a team that has had 3 different coaches in 4 years. Job security is something that actually matters to people who are applying for head coaching jobs. Fans obviously don't give a ****, but it matters.

We're stuck with Ryan so deal with it.

[Mace]

I was defending Rex against a false claim you made. That is not what an endorsement is.



This entire time both you and I have been using "1st" as in the most penalized team. I don't know why that's a question now. Being 9th in that category is worse than being 29th. Rex has never been worse than 9th, like I said.



Because you're wrong?



Did I say that it's not an issue? Man, some of you guys hear someone say 1 thing about a guy and assume 17 other things. I'm disagreeing with your statement that the penalties are "100% a continuation of what he did in NY the past 4 years." That's why that statement was bold when I first replied to you. That is simply not the case.


Yeah, I started typing out an elaborate disagreement with what I thought you said and it suddenly dawned on me what you really said. It's a mess but it's just not 100% continuation of what he did with the Jets.

We hired an enthusiasm guy for an over excited team on the edge with a bunch of people needing to prove themselves, and ended up predictably over sugared. But we aren't the Jets who already had a handle on his inadequate system at and at least weren't the squarest pegs in the roundest defensive holes.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Yeah, I started typing out an elaborate disagreement with what I thought you said and it suddenly dawned on me what you really said. It's a mess but it's just not 100% continuation of what he did with the Jets.

We hired an enthusiasm guy for an over excited team on the edge with a bunch of people needing to prove themselves, and ended up predictably over sugared. But we aren't the Jets who already had a handle on his inadequate system at and at least weren't the squarest pegs in the roundest defensive holes.

We were 2nd in penalties this year, and we were 2nd in penalties last year. The common denominator being the players on the roster.

Rex has done nothing to help the penalty issue, clearly. There is no denying the lack of discipline on this team. It's to the point where I barely get excited about a big play because I assume it's getting called back.

The solution to every problem cannot be to 'fire everyone and start over,' though.

[Mace]

We were 2nd in penalties this year, and we were 2nd in penalties last year. The common denominator being the players on the roster.

Rex has done nothing to help the penalty issue, clearly. There is no denying the lack of discipline on this team. It's to the point where I barely get excited about a big play because I assume it's getting called back.

The solution to every problem cannot be to 'fire everyone and start over,'

Well hold up on that though or you're running into my elaborate misdirected agreement. We were actually 5th including playoff games : http://www.nflpenalties.com/phase.php?year=2014 , and the number and type match up poorly in terms of technique and discipline. Like we're already tied at the number of penalties and past the yardage loss of 2014.

I think Ryan made it worse, some are growing pains in system sure, other ones are just lack of accountability (you can look at them at that site by type).

But Ryan isn't continuing a trend, he started a new one if you compare to 2014, and I agree you can't fire everyone and start over, it's too late. This team is being remodeled into Ryan. It's either going to work or not, sloppy or not and we have a couple years to chew on it more.

Edits : Cats are all over me.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Well hold up on that though or you're running into my elaborate misdirected agreement. We were actually 5th including playoff games

Why would you include playoff games, though? The 2 most penalized teams in the league last year were the Pats and the Seahawks. That probably has something to do with how they played more games than everyone else.


Like we're already tied at the number of penalties and past the yardage loss of 2014.

Penalties on the season are up by something like 10-12 penalties per week. The flags are flying this year and I'd rather compare our number of penalties to other teams versus comparing to other years.


I think Ryan made it worse, some are growing pains in system sure, other ones are just lack of accountability (you can look at them at that site by type).

He may have. Although Jerry Hughes accounts for more than 10% of our penalties this year. The guy needs to figure out the snap count.

We have 6 unnecessary roughness penalties (league average is 5.69) and 5 unsportsman like conduct penalties (league average is 2.16). I think the bigger problem is our offensive holding penalties, 30 of them! That's 12 more than the league average...ridiculous.


But Ryan isn't continuing a trend, he started a new one if you compare to 2014, and I agree you can't fire everyone and start over, it's too late. This team is being remodeled into Ryan. It's either going to work or not, sloppy or not and we have a couple years to chew on it more.

Yup, hiring Rex was at least a 3 year commitment. I don't see him leaving before that, whether it should happen or not.

[Historian]

F. Transfer Brandon to Rochester so he can **** up the Amerks.

[Mike]

DeCosta and Kirk Ferentz is my dream pair up.

I've been touting both of those guys names forever now it seems :rofl:

I have wanted Kirk for sometime as well (last 3 hires)
but I have heard that there is virtually no chance he leaves Iowa.

[Jan Reimers]

Petition the league to be allowed to get rid of every player and coach, plus every other person on the football side of the operation, build a new stadium in Cheektowaga, and start all over as an expansion team.

[swiper]

Yeah, because people are going to want to come coach a team that has had 3 different coaches in 4 years. Job security is something that actually matters to people who are applying for head coaching jobs. Fans obviously don't give a ****, but it matters.

We're stuck with Ryan so deal with it.

The new owner has only hired one coach. If he publically calls out the sloppy play and penalties and tells fans that level of play is intolerable, then a change can be made. No problem.

It's not as if the early penalty problems have improved because Ryan tightened up the ship. He hasn't. It's the same sloppy product now as it was day #1 with him.

15 penalties in a game is inexcusable.

[Mr. Cynical]

This team is being remodeled into Ryan. It's either going to work or not, sloppy or not and we have a couple years to chew on it more.

If that's the case, then imo prepare for not making the playoffs until at least 2018 under a new HC. Ryan has had 2 winning seasons out of 6 (and most likely 7 now). That's a 28.5% season win percentage, and a .477 career average. I don't see any reason whatsoever that that is going to change from the way things have gone since his last winning season in 2010. I hope I'm wrong, but haven't heard one single reason to justify that it's going to change.

To be honest, I admit I was initially excited that he was coming here, given I thought there were some rational arguments here in NY that could explain the crappy 4 year run. But clearly the common denominator from his last 4 years, to this year, is him. I didn't want to believe it, but "wrecks" is turning out to be an apt nickname.

[BuffaloRedleg]

The new owner has only hired one coach. If he publically calls out the sloppy play and penalties and tells fans that level of play is intolerable, then a change can be made. No problem.

It's not as if the early penalty problems have improved because Ryan tightened up the ship. He hasn't. It's the same sloppy product now as it was day #1 with him.

15 penalties in a game is inexcusable.

I just don't agree with this. This franchise is synonymous with being a coaching carousel, new owner or not. Starting off your ownership losing 2 coaches in a year does not bode well.

Would you want to work there if you were an up and coming coach or a proven winner? Absolutely not.

[swiper]

New owner = clean slate. Will happen once in your & my lifetime for the Bills.

I would have loved to see what Schwartz could do. I would have rather had John Fox however.

[sukie]

New owner = clean slate. Will happen once in your & my lifetime for the Bills.

I would have loved to see what Schwartz could do. I would have rather had John Fox however.
Didn't we see what Schwartz could do in Detroit?

[Joe Fo Sho]

I wonder if there's ever been a coach who was with one team for an extended period of time, was unsuccessful, got fired, signed with another team, was unsuccessful for their 1st year, but then went on to do well.

[cookie G]

Make Russ Brandon disappear from the face of the earth. At the very least send him on whatever mission to the farthest place on earth. Far far from the team. The North and South Poles are options.

It was almost a year ago, in early January, when the Buffalo Bills called Rex Ryan back for a second interview for their head-coaching vacancy. Team president Russ Brandon was so impressed that he told owner Terry Pegula not to let Ryan out of the building.

"That's when we knew that Rex could be our coach, if he wanted to be," Pegula said days later, when Ryan was officially hired. "We just felt that he was our guy and trust me, we had some pretty impressive people that we felt could the Bills coach, but we said, 'Hey, let's go after Rex.'"

http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/22828/playoff-promise-among-rex-ryan-statements-that-will-likely-prove-false

That's really all you need to know.

Why the **** this guy is anywhere near any football decisions is so beyond me...

[swiper]

Didn't we see what Schwartz could do in Detroit?

Yep. Just like we saw what Belichick could do in Cleveland.

[Mr. Pink]

Yep. Just like we saw what Belichick could do in Cleveland.

11-5 and in the playoffs in 1994. Franchise low in points allowed, franchise low in sacks allowed, media darlings for 1995 Superbowl...and then Art Modell happened.