Oh, and let's not forget Carpenter.

[Mr. Cynical]

How he still has a job is mind blowing. Enough is @#% enough. He shouldn't even be allowed on the same plane back.

[Ginger Vitis]

Re: Oh, and let's not forget Carpenter.

3 missed PATs this season... Awful

[GvilleBills]

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He's reverted to late Miami era Carpenter.

[Novacane]

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I dont know what you do about him at this point. He won't be our kicker next year

[BertSquirtgum]

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Are you people nuts?

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What is with all this Carpenter hate? He missed one ****ing extra point in a windy pouring rain game. Even the best kickers have been missing a few all year.

[Mace]

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Are you people nuts?

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What is with all this Carpenter hate? He missed one ****ing extra point in a windy pouring rain game. Even the best kickers have been missing a few all year.

Yep, and 30-23 would have been that much more satisfying.

[Novacane]

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Are you guys defending him confident he's going to hit a 45 yd fg at the end of a game? Not to mention we waste a roster spot cause he can't kick touchbacks. The position needs upgrading next year.

[Mace]

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Are you guys defending him confident he's going to hit a 45 yd fg at the end of a game? Not to mention we waste a roster spot cause he can't kick touchbacks. The position needs upgrading next year.

A lot of kickers kick touchbacks and can't hit long field goals. Santos from the Chiefs kicks touchbacks, couldn't kick a 54 yarder. I mean really, would you rather have touchbacks and iffy percentage on field goals ? For that matter how do you know what his touchback percentage would be ? We're one of the only teams that has a touchback specialist, if not the only one, I don't remember but think so. Is that rolling up the wins ?

[Novacane]

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That's the point. We dont get touchbacks and still get the iffy % on fg. I can only assume they carry a specialist because they know his TB % would suck.

You've got to admit he's not the kicker he was the last couple years. Maybe he's not 100% ? I'm not saying cut him. Just bring in some serious competition in camp next year.

[Crisis]

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Are you people nuts?

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What is with all this Carpenter hate? He missed one ****ing extra point in a windy pouring rain game. Even the best kickers have been missing a few all year.

Three on the year. He's been awful.

[BertSquirtgum]

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Three on the year. He's been awful.

The Arizona kicker has missed three today. Three is not a big deal.

[Mace]

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That's the point. We dont get touchbacks and still get the iffy % on fg. I can only assume they carry a specialist because they know his TB % would suck.

You've got to admit he's not the kicker he was the last couple years. Maybe he's not 100% ? I'm not saying cut him. Just bring in some serious competition in camp next year.

We have a better FG percentage than Pittsburgh and KC, and have a worse touchback percentage than Tennessee, San Francisco & Miami with a specialist touchback guy. I'd be worried about the kicking if we were losing games because of kicking. We aren't. Longer PATs shook the league a little. Cleveland, San Francisco and Tennessee are ahead of us in PAT pct, Green Bay is behind.

Kicking is a sliver in your toe when you've been shot in the leg at this point.

Get mad at Carpenter when he costs us games that are riding on his leg.

[pmoon6]

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Geez, you guys are so butthurt you're crying about a missed extra point, too?

What a bunch of pussies.

I think the Bills should give out tampons and tissues at every game so the so called fans won't flood the stadium with blood, sweat and tears.

[YardRat]

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That was a significant miss, but if Carpenter loses his job for missing three xp's in a season Ryan should lose his also for blowing four ****ing challenges IN ONE GAME.

[Victor7]

Re: Oh, and let's not forget Carpenter.

The missed extra point was huge. We had to go for 2 on our next score. We never recovered the lead or even tied from that point on. The whole complexion of the game changed because of that.

That's 3 missed on the year and he's also not been as good on fgs as he used to.

There's no immediate solution so he's not getting cut. But come next year he can't be the only guy in camp. He has to be on thin ice and some competition needs to be brought in.