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notacon
12-05-2015, 08:39 AM
Oh, I know it's popular to blame the QB's for our probable missing of the playoffs for the 16th year...especially those zombies whining about EJ (Here's a hint...we are NOT missing the playoff because of EJ Manuel).

Certainly, it would be great to have some consistent QB play....especially when the Bills play better teams. But, the MAIN reason the Bills are going to miss the playoffs is the STUNNING digression of their defense, and specifically the anemic pass rush from the overpaid D-Line.

Now, we have quantitive proof....

JJ Watts Outperforming the Bills' Entire D-Line (http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/12/04/nfl-buffalo-bills-pass-rush-woes-jj-watt?xid=nl_siextra)



Buffalo was supposed to have one of the league’s best pass rushes this season, but Watt alone has more sacks and quarterback hits. What’s going on with Rex Ryan’s defense?

Going into the season I believed Buffalo’s defensive line had all the hallmarks of an all-time great unit: The players had a history of demonstrated ability, and new coach Rex Ryan is one of the smartest defensive minds in football. But things haven’t turned out that way.

At ProFootballFocus.com (http://profootballfocus.com/) we take pass rushing very seriously. The days of simply counting sacks is hopefully in the rearview mirror. As most defensive coaches will tell you, the key to success is generating pressure, even if the quarterback isn’t always brought to the ground. Why? Because when a QB is under pressure, on average, his passer rating drops by about 30 points. That’s pretty much the equivalent of turning Tom Brady into Colin Kaepernick.

So pressure is incredibly important—but measuring its impact isn’t as simple as adding up sacks, hit and hurries and dividing by the number of passing plays.

Not all pressures are equal; there’s a huge difference between a quick hit forcing an errant throw after 1.9 seconds and a late hurry after 3.5 seconds. Nor is every opportunity to get pressure created equally. For example, you are less likely to get to Tom Brady than you are to Andrew Luck, because Brady gets rid of the ball on average more than a half-second quicker. Across the NFL, seven-step drops account for 26% of passing plays. Luck uses a seven-step drop on 43% of his passes, the league’s second-highest rate behind Teddy Bridgewater. That’s hard to pass protect for and hence easier for the defense to get after.

At PFF we take all this into account to generate our pass rush rankings. The top five:

1) Dolphins
2) Broncos
3) Rams
4) Vikings
5) Seahawks

Perhaps the most surprising team here is the Dolphins. Their front four, despite having real issues in run defense, always get consistent pass-rush pressure. Over the last four weeks, few have done better in that regard than right end Olivier Vernon, who has picked up three sacks, a ridiculous 14 hits and 11 hurries.

But this article is concentrating on the bottom of the rankings:

28) 49ers
29) Jaguars
30) Colts
31) Bills
32) Chargers

Buffalo is the only surprise here.

Most people outside San Diego (and a good number inside) would have difficulty naming a current Chargers pass rusher. In Indianapolis, Dwight Freeney is long gone, and Robert Mathis, who looks like a shadow of his former self, has rushed the passer only 216 times. Jacksonville lost its most likely star, Dante Fowler, to a torn ACL before a snap was taken. San Francisco is still rebuilding from all its offseason departures. There are valid reasons that explain why these four teams are struggling.

Buffalo, which ranked No. 9 last year, has no excuses. On paper the Bills have one of the best groups of defensive linemen in football. Only the Rams pay their linemen more than the $37.6M in cap expenditure Buffalo has spent this year—and that number jumps by $6 million next year, according to overthecap.com (http://overthecap.com/).

Here is a breakdown of how Buffalo’s players are performing—and how their combine output stacks up against J.J. Watts’ stats.

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* An explanation of our grades can be found here (https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/).

Jerry Hughes is playing well, but not at the same level he was a year ago, Marcell Dareus and Kyle Williams have been average, and Mario Williams has been poor. Everyone else has either been below average or poor.

Of Williams’s 30 total QB disruptions, 12 have been unblocked and five more have been of the “clean-up” variety, where a QB either drifts to him or is forced his way by another player. Over half his stats are “unearned.”

So how does Rex Ryan figure into all of this? Well, scheme is an interesting component.

Last year, defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz stuck with his usual policy of rushing four as often as possible. The Bills blitzed the third-least of any NFL team, on just 20.6% of passing plays (the NFL average was 29.4%). Yet they were still our ninth-ranked pass rushing unit.

This year this blitzing has become far more prevalent—on 33.5% of dropbacks—but the Bills are getting to the QB less often. Some believe this is because quarterbacks react to this by throwing more quickly, and while this may be true, our grades do account for this.
Ultimately, it still comes down to the individual battles. Is your rusher beating his blocker frequently enough? The answer in Buffalo is a definitive no.


The pass rush, using a comprehensive rating system, and not just counting sacks, has the Bills' D-Line pass rushing pressure rating going down from #9 in the league to a dismal 2nd WORST #32.

What a stunning reversal to what was supposed to be the strongest part of the team...now, it's one of the worst.

So...I know it's popular to concentrate on QB play, but, that's NOT the reason the Bills' are underperforming this year and will most likely (unless a miracle happens) will miss the playoffs once again (much less be competitive in them).

The saddest part is, we could have had JJ Watts on our team. Instead they picked Dareus. Sure, he's a decent player, but JJ Watts is the head and shoulder BEST defensive player in NFL. The Tom Brady of pass rushers. The Bills have got to be one of the worst drawing teams in the history of football.

justasportsfan
12-05-2015, 08:51 AM
It's disgusting how the entire bills team has only 2 more sacks than Watt.

Goobylal
12-05-2015, 10:27 AM
Blame Ryan. It was a mistake to hire him and jettison Schwartz.

OpIv37
12-05-2015, 12:33 PM
The DL is not overpaid. They proved the last two seasons that they can get the job done. The problem is Ryan be his scheme.

And if we had beaten Jax, we'd still have a good shot at the playoffs, and EJ gift-wrapped that game for them. So, EJ is not the only reason we are missing the playoffs but he's one of them.

YardRat
12-05-2015, 12:43 PM
It's the coaches and scheme, not the players.

I hope anybody who, in the past, argued that coaching and scheme are over-rated have paid real close attention the past two seasons. A ****ty coach with a ****ty scheme that doesn't fit the players' skill sets can ruin a team.

JJ Watt is good, but even he would end up being pedestrian under Rex Ryan.

swiper
12-05-2015, 01:48 PM
Anyone who doesn't see the biggest problem is the play of the QB is just plain lost. How many games did our QBs fail to win for us this year? And then I get to watch Aaron Rodgers, who Tom Donahoe should have drafted for the Bills, beat the Lions on one single throw.

swiper
12-05-2015, 01:51 PM
And to the moron who suggested these aren't the right players or they are "adjusting" to this new scheme: Schwartz left Rex Ryan a book on what these players are good at. And he's not using it. These players are very good defenders. Darby improved the group. Ryan is not a good coach.

TacklingDummy
12-05-2015, 03:38 PM
Let's not forget EJ brought the Bills back in the Jags game and the defense blew it. But yeah let's blame EJ.

Ingtar33
12-05-2015, 03:41 PM
Let's not forget EJ brought the Bills back in the Jags game and the defense blew it. But yeah let's blame EJ.

after giving the jags 17 all by himself with turnovers. please don't omit this part.

TacklingDummy
12-05-2015, 03:51 PM
after giving the jags 17 all by himself with turnovers. please don't omit this part.

He's not the only QB to ever throw a pick 6 or fumble the ball.
I was happy to see him fight through adversity and help bring the Bills back.
It's too bad the defense couldn't hold on to that lead.

I much rather see EJ gunslinging the ball all over the place down the field over the 1 read to the outside or take off and run gimmick.

swiper
12-05-2015, 03:58 PM
Who's saying anything about Manuel? He's not even playing.

pmoon6
12-05-2015, 05:28 PM
Let's not forget EJ brought the Bills back in the Jags game and the defense blew it. But yeah let's blame EJ.You mean with the phantom PI call that gave them a first and 10 on fourth down?

Mace
12-05-2015, 05:41 PM
If we had Watts, Ryan would try to make him a safety.

I thought Kyle Williams in coverage or shadowing Mariota's running ability was bad until I saw Dareus in coverage and heard Ryan's gibberish explanation of it. I can't stomach people griping about our line underperforming in sacks when they're being used in coverage. You don't get sacks from linemen in coverage.

I'm not sure how they define pass rush snaps, but dropping guys into coverage leaves more linemen to block the other ones having a pass rush snap.

Ryan is still an idiot.

kingJofNYC
12-05-2015, 11:15 PM
Pettine, with the same scheme, #4 in DVOA.

pmoon6
12-06-2015, 02:15 AM
If we had Watts, Ryan would try to make him a safety.

I thought Kyle Williams in coverage or shadowing Mariota's running ability was bad until I saw Dareus in coverage and heard Ryan's gibberish explanation of it. I can't stomach people griping about our line underperforming in sacks when they're being used in coverage. You don't get sacks from linemen in coverage.

I'm not sure how they define pass rush snaps, but dropping guys into coverage leaves more linemen to block the other ones having a pass rush snap.

Ryan is still an idiot.Just another example of a coachs' ego over riding common sense. Sure, try "your" defense if you must, but when it isn't working as well as the D they were playing, go back to what was working. I will say they had the Patriots beat with that defensive game plan, but the Offense couldn't do anything. Ryan got "Bellichicked" once again.

It seems to me that all around the league, coaches routinely outsmart themselves. "We'll do this because the O or D is expecting this". Trying the unexpected play that doesn't work within your strengths like Seattle at the 3 yard line with the best power back in the game used as a decoy.

I don't like changing coaches before they really get a chance, but last Sunday was an example of incompetence in a game with basically the playoffs on the line that can't be forgiven. It will only continue.

sudzy
12-06-2015, 04:33 AM
Who's saying anything about Manuel? He's not even playing.

Thank god

Goobylal
12-06-2015, 09:13 AM
The DL is not overpaid. They proved the last two seasons that they can get the job done. The problem is Ryan be his scheme.

And if we had beaten Jax, we'd still have a good shot at the playoffs, and EJ gift-wrapped that game for them. So, EJ is not the only reason we are missing the playoffs but he's one of them.

The Chefs loss was worse.

justasportsfan
12-06-2015, 01:19 PM
Let's not forget EJ brought the Bills back in the Jags game and the defense blew it. But yeah let's blame EJ.

EJ brought the team back from the 21 points he gave up? Na we didn't forget.

Owen DeBoard
12-06-2015, 02:21 PM
And to the moron who suggested these aren't the right players or they are "adjusting" to this new scheme: Schwartz left Rex Ryan a book on what these players are good at. And he's not using it. These players are very good defenders. Darby improved the group. Ryan is not a good coach.

Like I said its Ryans fault the players cant tackle I guess they would tackle better for Schwartz. Also Andrew Luck and Tom Brady showed what you do to a dominate D line that rushes the passer by passing the ball quickly. You clowns have it figured out you should be GMs or coaches.

Goobylal
12-06-2015, 07:36 PM
EJ brought the team back from the 21 points he gave up? Na we didn't forget.

Yeah, actually he did. Defense gave up the go-ahead TD, although the BS penalty on Robey didn't help.

swiper
12-07-2015, 04:00 AM
Like I said its Ryans fault the players cant tackle I guess they would tackle better for Schwartz. Also Andrew Luck and Tom Brady showed what you do to a dominate D line that rushes the passer by passing the ball quickly. You clowns have it figured out you should be GMs or coaches.

The only clown here is you. They did tackle better for Schwartz. Perhaps something to do with their coach not having them run all over the place like chickens with their heads cut off? And there's long been a book on how to best handle 3 step, quick release guys. You've got some catching up to do.