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  • stuckincincy
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    • Sep 2003
    • 15084

    Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

    Douggie can jump back into the marquee FA market!

    Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.
  • feldspar
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 13620

    #2
    Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

    All I know is what "manna" means now...after I looked it up.

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    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86191

      #3
      Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

      Oh, goodie. Maybe Pegula, Brandon, Whaley and Ryan can get all tanked up on the yacht again and bring in another flashy toy at 9mil per season.
      YardRat Wall of Fame
      #56 DARRYL TALLEY
      #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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      • feldspar
        Registered User
        • Mar 2007
        • 13620

        #4
        Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

        Originally posted by YardRat View Post
        Oh, goodie. Maybe Pegula, Brandon, Whaley and Ryan can get all tanked up on the yacht again and bring in another flashy toy at 9mil per season.
        Yeah, we are all jaded Bills fans.

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        • Swiper
          Legendary Zoner
          • Sep 2010
          • 33105

          #5
          Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

          Yea! More Chris Williams's on the way.

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          • TacklingDummy
            Unreachable Douche
            • Jul 2002
            • 71725

            #6
            Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

            Unless the Bills have a franchise QB, $10 million more in cap space doesn't mean crap. More useless signing like Dareus.

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            • Night Train
              Retired - On Several Levels
              • Jul 2005
              • 33117

              #7
              Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

              Are we even sure Whaley will be here ? I'm not.
              Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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              • YardRat
                Well, lookie here...
                • Dec 2004
                • 86191

                #8
                Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                Are we even sure Whaley will be here ? I'm not.
                The thing is (Rex isn't getting fired after one season, granted) Whaley has the defensive players to hang his hat on ("Look how good these guys were with real coaching") and a few hits this off season on offense (Incognito, Clay, Shady, Miller, Karlos) which except for the the well-publicized 'Ryan's guy' at QB have improved the offense. I really don't seen anybody getting canned after this year (except for maybe an assistant or two).
                YardRat Wall of Fame
                #56 DARRYL TALLEY
                #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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                • BillsImpossible
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 16206

                  #9
                  Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                  The Bills can save $12.9 million against the cap by releasing Mario Williams this offseason.

                  Anyone remember when Mario publicly said back in January that he wanted to play linebacker after Rex was hired?

                  Mario Williams is undergoing yet another coaching change as he enters his 10th season in the NFL. A switch to linebacker has the veteran defender excited heading into the offseason in Buffalo.


                  "I look forward to it," he said. "So hopefully if (Ryan) hears this, this is my call-in: Will Linebacker. So hopefully it works out."

                  It's not working out.

                  Mario Williams is not going to be playing in a Bills uniform next season.

                  Neither will Kyle Williams ($8 million cap hit) Leodis McKelvin ($4.9 million cap hit) or EJ Manuel ($2.8 million cap hit).

                  That's almost $29 million in cap savings, plus an additional $10 million is $39 million to play with.

                  Corey Graham has a $4.7 million cap hit in 2016.

                  Manny Lawson has a $3.4 million cap hit in 2016.

                  Kraig Urbik has a $2.6 million cap hit in 2016.

                  That's about an additional $11 million.

                  $50 million of cap space is plenty to work with.

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                  • sudzy
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 2802

                    #10
                    Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                    I hope the Bills speed some money on improving the pass rush. They are 31st in the NFL in sacks. Maybe a really good pass rushing safety, so they can drop Mario more in coverage.

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                    • EDS
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5216

                      #11
                      Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                      Originally posted by BillsImpossible View Post
                      The Bills can save $12.9 million against the cap by releasing Mario Williams this offseason.

                      Anyone remember when Mario publicly said back in January that he wanted to play linebacker after Rex was hired?

                      Mario Williams is undergoing yet another coaching change as he enters his 10th season in the NFL. A switch to linebacker has the veteran defender excited heading into the offseason in Buffalo.


                      "I look forward to it," he said. "So hopefully if (Ryan) hears this, this is my call-in: Will Linebacker. So hopefully it works out."

                      It's not working out.

                      Mario Williams is not going to be playing in a Bills uniform next season.

                      Neither will Kyle Williams ($8 million cap hit) Leodis McKelvin ($4.9 million cap hit) or EJ Manuel ($2.8 million cap hit).

                      That's almost $29 million in cap savings, plus an additional $10 million is $39 million to play with.

                      Corey Graham has a $4.7 million cap hit in 2016.

                      Manny Lawson has a $3.4 million cap hit in 2016.

                      Kraig Urbik has a $2.6 million cap hit in 2016.

                      That's about an additional $11 million.

                      $50 million of cap space is plenty to work with.
                      Well, won't a portion of the money for any players that are cut count against the cap (dead cap money)? Also, if they lose Mario and Kyle the defense becomes pretty very thin on talent up front. Remember, they need to re-sign Glenn, Incognito, Bradham and others with that cap space, in addition to replacing Mario, Kyle, Graham, etc.

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                      • Mace
                        Haha...yeah you think so ?
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 20315

                        #12
                        Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                        Whaley is the same junk he always is, endless potential when they get healthy, overpay for whatever, express full confidence in your organization that can't scout cheap ass positions you overpay for, stick with your loud choices always, and bring in a new crop of whatever you have to wheel and deal to get in a stoner's video game.

                        Oh yeah, good deal. His higher calling is regional scout and that's the last you'll see of him once we boot him. No no, he'll find a cheap running back then and some outstanding linebacker in 5 years and a bunch of people will miss him but I won't be one of them. He'll spend that 10 million and cost us 25 and another year unless someone reins him in, and they won't but Ryan will blame him anyway down the road.

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                        • Buffalogic
                          Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 5345

                          #13
                          Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                          As it stands and with the 10m increase, the bills are currently over that cap by 18,000. Yes, 18,000.

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                          • X-Era
                            What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 27670

                            #14
                            Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                            Originally posted by EDS View Post
                            Well, won't a portion of the money for any players that are cut count against the cap (dead cap money)? Also, if they lose Mario and Kyle the defense becomes pretty very thin on talent up front. Remember, they need to re-sign Glenn, Incognito, Bradham and others with that cap space, in addition to replacing Mario, Kyle, Graham, etc.
                            12.9 is the saving on Mario, there is 7 mill in dead money.

                            Cap hit - dead money = savings if released

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                            • X-Era
                              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 27670

                              #15
                              Re: Cap may rise $10 million...manna for Whaley?

                              Originally posted by Buffalogic View Post
                              As it stands and with the 10m increase, the bills are currently over that cap by 18,000. Yes, 18,000.
                              I will be shocked if Mario's deal isn't re-worked. Clay is another deal that is likely to be re-worked.

                              Kyle probably retires, McKelvin gets cut, Urbik, probably Lawson. We'll have cap room I'm not at all worried about it.

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