Rob Ryan decked in Bills gear at practice.

[Victor7]

FML

That fat useless poor excuse of a DC is at practice fully decked in Bills gear. Certainly looks like he's coaching IMO.

Some info to ruin your week. Here are the performances of Ryan's defenses this season vs our next 3 opponents.

vs Dal
335 Total 220 Air 115 Ground

Not that bad

vs Phi
519 Total 333 Air 186 Ground

Pathetic would be a compliment

vs Washington
510 Total 301 Air 209 Ground

Another cluster ****

Strap on to your seats Bills fans. If Rob has any say on our defense this week its gonna be ugly. Chip gonna roll 500+ on us.

[Dr. Lecter]

You should look at his numbers for his entire career.

[justasportsfan]

I hope his evil twin brought him in to learn on what not to do. If Rob says one thing, do the opposite

[Joe Fo Sho]

Some info to ruin your week. Here are the performances of Ryan's defenses this season vs our next 3 opponents.

vs Dal
335 Total 220 Air 115 Ground

Not that bad

vs Phi
519 Total 333 Air 186 Ground

Pathetic would be a compliment

vs Washington
510 Total 301 Air 209 Ground

What I'm getting out of this is that we just brought in a coordinator who has already played (this year) each of our next 3 opponents.

It's not like the guy is going to come in here and start running our defense. His knowledge of our opponents is definitely valuable.

[Victor7]

You should look at his numbers for his entire career.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/RyanRo0.htm

There you go, knock yourself out. He sucks

Brief sumary

8 years (out of 12) as a DC he's ranked his D below 20 overall in yards allowed. 4 of those 8 seasons they ranked 30 or lower. Thirty or lower !!

Just twice he's finished in the top 10.

Wanna use points ?

Same. 8 out of 12 over 20 and one more ranked 19. Below 30 three times. Only one top 10 finish.

Takeaways ?

Never in the top 10. NEVER

Run defense ? 9 out of 12 times below 25 !!!

His "best" performances have been on pass defense where's his D's have finished twice as No. 2 and once as No. 1. Shockingly, but not really 2 of those 3 seasons were when he finished below 25 in rushing.

Point proven. Get that man away from the team ASAP.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Rex said recently on WGR that he wouldn't be offered a position with the Bills because "he wouldn't look good in team pictures".

[Victor7]

What I'm getting out of this is that we just brought in a coordinator who has already played (this year) each of our next 3 opponents.

It's not like the guy is going to come in here and start running our defense. His knowledge of our opponents is definitely valuable.

Given how bad he failed vs them I'd say his only value is if we do the exact opposite of what he says.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Given how bad he failed vs them I'd say his only value is if we do the exact opposite of what he says.

Maybe true, but a reasonably intelligent person should know how and why the defense that they are in charge of failed. Despite how the Ryan family is portrayed in the media, they must be halfway intelligent to get as far as they are in the NFL. I mean, right? Maybe I'm trying to convince myself of this more than anyone else.

[Mr. Miyagi]

I want to see Rob Ryan get a haircut and dressed up just like Rex standing on the sideline on game day. Opposing teams will have a hard time figuring out whose lips to read to steal signals.

[Buffalogic]

Let him coach a position unit. Who cares.

[Uncle Jesse]

Given how bad he failed vs them I'd say his only value is if we do the exact opposite of what he says.


Can you even name anyone on that Saints D besides Byrd, who has been awful? Exactly. Just because they lost, doesn't mean Rob Ryan can't offer some insight into what they liked to do, or what types of plays like ran in certain situations.

You have to be a real buffoon to think there is nothing valuable someone like him could offer to us going into games against teams he's coached against this year.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Can you even name anyone on that Saints D besides Byrd, who has been awful? Exactly. Just because they lost, doesn't mean Rob Ryan can't offer some insight into what they liked to do, or what types of plays like ran in certain situations.

You have to be a real buffoon to think there is nothing valuable someone like him could offer to us going into games against teams he's coached against this year.
Let's just pray to Jesus the Lord my Savior that Rob Ryan isn't our DC next year. Please God. :pray:

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Maybe they are like the Sedin twins, and they suck whenever they get separated but are dominant when together

[gebobs]

Maybe they are like the Sedin twins, and they suck whenever they get separated but are dominant when together

Can Whaley and hire Buddy as GM. Big brother Jim can be the new chaplain. We can't lose.

[Ginger Vitis]

The paranoia from the thread starter is laughable.... I doubt Rob Ryan will have much influence on the outcome of the upcoming game this sunday

[more cowbell]

Ralph is cheap.

[Victor7]

Can you even name anyone on that Saints D besides Byrd, who has been awful? Exactly. Just because they lost, doesn't mean Rob Ryan can't offer some insight into what they liked to do, or what types of plays like ran in certain situations.

You have to be a real buffoon to think there is nothing valuable someone like him could offer to us going into games against teams he's coached against this year.

For sure there may be something valuable to contribute. I just doubt it outweighs the bad. Which is really bad.

Please refer to my earlier post about his rankings. This goes far beyond his roster in NO at the moment. He's been a bad DC everywhere he's been.

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Can you even name anyone on that Saints D besides Byrd, who has been awful? Exactly. Just because they lost, doesn't mean Rob Ryan can't offer some insight into what they liked to do, or what types of plays like ran in certain situations.

You have to be a real buffoon to think there is nothing valuable someone like him could offer to us going into games against teams he's coached against this year.

For sure there may be something valuable to contribute. I just doubt it outweighs the bad. Which is really bad.

Please refer to my earlier post about his rankings. This goes far beyond his roster in NO at the moment. He's been a bad DC everywhere he's been.

[swiper]

Rex said recently on WGR that he wouldn't be offered a position with the Bills because "he wouldn't look good in team pictures".

LOL.

[Victor7]

The paranoia from the thread starter is laughable.... I doubt Rob Ryan will have much influence on the outcome of the upcoming game this sunday

Why is he here then ? Decked in Bills gear and in practice talking to players ? Just exactly when we are about to face 3 teams he already did ? I guess it must be just a coincidence right.

Its not paranoia at all. I'm just telling you he failed in a big way vs our next 3 rivals. Whatever he did better not be tried again.

[Scumbag College]

Sexy Rexy's weirdo brother > Gym Shorts.

[gebobs]

Why is he here then ? Decked in Bills gear and in practice talking to players ? Just exactly when we are about to face 3 teams he already did ? I guess it must be just a coincidence right.

Its not paranoia at all. I'm just telling you he failed in a big way vs our next 3 rivals. Whatever he did better not be tried again.

It's not like our defense has been so awesome this year that anything Robbie contributes is going to make them fall apart. There's no bigger critic here of Rexy than me, but if his bro can provide any insight into the next three opponents, I'll take it.

Look at it this way. It's 11 pm at the casino and we've been crapping out most of the night. We have four throws left. Maybe, just maybe, he shakes his long, beautiful locks, blows on the dice, and we toss sevens. Or maybe he blows on the dice and it's snake eyes.

Or maybe blowing on the dice doesn't do anything.

[swiper]

Ron Ryan offers NO value for anything. Escort the fat slob out of town. He has been horrid everywhere he's been. If he could offer insight about anything he'd be doing it for the Saints. Just because some little kid poster doesn't know the names of any Saints defenders off the top of his head doesn't mean a thing. The Saints had to bring in Dennis Allen to right the ship as a paid assistant to Ryan because he was so bad.

[Mace]

Maybe they are like the Sedin twins, and they suck whenever they get separated but are dominant when together

Whoa...that hit me like a train. You might be on to something. That was profound.

[Mace]

Ron Ryan offers NO value for anything. Escort the fat slob out of town. He has been horrid everywhere he's been. If he could offer insight about anything he'd be doing it for the Saints. Just because some little kid poster doesn't know the names of any Saints defenders off the top of his head doesn't mean a thing. The Saints had to bring in Dennis Allen to right the ship as a paid assistant to Ryan because he was so bad.

Sedin twins. This could be stunningly successful. If it doesn't work, not like anything else is working all that great anyway. Can't stand Rob, don't much like Rex, but if you put them together and get this divine power effect. It would be awesome even if you wouldn't be able to see which was which for the glow of perfect combined defensive excellence, or hear for the thunderous tones of destiny.

If it doesn't work just fire him later and try and figure out if the effect mutated anyone.

[tomz]

Sedin twins. This could be stunningly successful. If it doesn't work, not like anything else is working all that great anyway. Can't stand Rob, don't much like Rex, but if you put them together and get this divine power effect. It would be awesome even if you wouldn't be able to see which was which for the glow of perfect combined defensive excellence, or hear for the thunderous tones of destiny.

If it doesn't work just fire him later and try and figure out if the effect mutated anyone.

doesnt look like he's been hired for anything so what's the difference. Marrone used to talk to his dad, right? An extra pair of skilled eyes does no harm.

[Night Train]

Why is he here ? His twin brother ?

Obviously, to end your world.

[BertSquirtgum]

Why do we always need an ax to grind? Who cares.

[SeatownBillsFan21]

You really thought they wouldn't have brought him in its Rex's brother of-course he was making an appearance. That said I don't think he's doing much coaching or calling plays so it's whatever to me.

[BuffaloRedleg]

https://dr56wvhu2c8zo.cloudfront.net/everythingisterrible/assets/9da9b5fd-d809-4ffb-af01-5a998d9146c4/header.png

[gebobs]

You really thought they wouldn't have brought him in its Rex's brother of-course he was making an appearance. That said I don't think he's doing much coaching or calling plays so it's whatever to me.

And as far as I know, their mother is still in Toronto. It would be a surprise if he didn't.

[Mace]

I don't know, I'm still intrigued by the idea two twins, inadequate apart, could morph into this Superior Ryan of Magnificence if paired.

Watchmen analogy. Apart, Rex is The Comedian and Rob is Rorschach, they have their moments, but combine them and you might get Dr. Manhattans. Granted, you might also get Elmer Fudd, but you could get Dr. Manhattans which would be cool if they at least wore clothes in public and I'm sure the Pegulas would insist on it.

[Oaf]

It's not like we're going to the playoffs anyway..

[Mace]

It's not like we're going to the playoffs anyway..

Or if we fall into them backwards by some convoluted tiebreaker we're going to be less than shamed by a good coach/QB on the road anyway in a necessarily clutch game where personal fouls are flying everywhere on ramped up emotion from The Motivator, who will go inexplicably conservative on defense.

[feldspar]

Rob Ryan isn't in Buffalo to coach anybody.

[YardRat]

So which one is Tweedle-Dee, and which one is Tweedle-Dumbass?

[Mace]

So which one is Tweedle-Dee, and which one is Tweedle-Dumbass?

Never trust the one on the right.

[mdcas22]

Coaching career[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rob_Ryan&action=edit&section=3&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro)]Ryan was a graduate assistant at Western Kentucky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Kentucky_Hilltoppers_football) in 1987 and at Ohio State in 1988. Ryan then spent 5 seasons atTennessee State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_State), where he coached running backs (1989–91), wide receivers (1992) and the defensive line (1993). He served as defensive coordinator at Hutchinson Community College (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutchinson_Community_College) in 1996, where they led the nation in total defense (228 yards per game) and in sacks (56). His defense also set a national record by forcing 49 turnovers.
Ryan originally entered the NFL coaching ranks in 1994 as defensive backs coach on his father's staff for the Arizona Cardinals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cardinals). He also coached Cardinals cornerbacks and safeties in 1995. With Ryan as his position coach, cornerback Aeneas Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeneas_Williams) earned two trips to the Pro Bowl in 1994 and 1995. In 1995, the Cardinals led the NFL with 32 interceptions and 42 total takeaways. The 1994 Cardinals ranked second in the NFL total defense, second in run defense and third in pass defense. From 1997–99, Ryan was the defensive coordinator at Oklahoma State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_State_Cowboys_football), where the Cowboys defense continually ranked among the best in the nation, also he was named Coordinator of the Year by The Sporting News in 1997.
In 1999, they were ranked 10th in the nation in total defense. In 1998, they were second in the nation with 41 sacks. In his first season at Oklahoma State, the Cowboys defense finished among the nation top-20 in turnover margin, rushing defense, scoring defense and total defense, allowing just 302.7 yards per game. It was an over 100-yard improvement per game from the year before and helped the Cowboys produce an 8–4 mark and capping the 1997 season with a berth in the Alamo Bowl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Alamo_Bowl).
From 2000 to 2003, Ryan was the linebackers coach (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linebackers_coach) for the New England Patriots (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Patriots).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-OhBrotherWhatAStart-2) In 2003, the Patriots ranked first in the NFL in fewest points allowed 238 while ranking seventh overall in the NFL in total defense. Ryan's unit also contributed to one of the best scoring defenses in franchise history in 2001, as the Patriots allowed just 17 points per game and produced Pro Bowlers Willie McGinest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_McGinest) and Tedy Bruschi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tedy_Bruschi).[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-4)
From 2004 to 2008, Ryan was the defensive coordinator for the Oakland Raiders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Raiders).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-OhBrotherWhatAStart-2) In 2006, the Raiders ranked third in yards allowed per game but a low eighteenth in points allowed per game.
Former Cleveland Browns (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns) head coach Eric Mangini (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Mangini) named Ryan as defensive coordinator on January 14, 2009.
He was officially named the Dallas Cowboys (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys) defensive coordinator on January 19, 2011.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-5) The Cowboys missed the playoffs again in 2011 and were ranked 14th in yards allowed per game and 16th in points allowed per game. Dallas missed the playoffs yet again in 2012. In 2012 Dallas was ranked 14th in yards allowed per game and 23rd in points allowed per game while only ranking 16th in QB sacks. On January 8, 2013, the Cowboys ended Ryan's employment with the franchise.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-6)
In January 2013, Ryan agreed to become the defensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis_Rams), but resigned less than five days later.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-7) In February 2013, Ryan was hired as the New Orleans defensive coordinator, implementing a 3–4 defense (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3%E2%80%934_defense) to the team and scrapping their previous 4–3 defensive scheme.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-8)[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-9) [10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-10) Ryan's defense finished well statistically in 2013, but New Orleans played over half of their games against teams with losing records. New Orleans was near the bottom of the league in all defensive categories in 2014.
On November 16, 2015, the day after a 47-14 loss to the Washington Redskins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins), and with the New Orleans defense ranked last in the NFL, Ryan was fired. New Orleans defensive assistant coach Dennis Allen was appointed Defensive Coordinator following Ryan's dismissal.[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ryan#cite_note-11)

[Oaf]

Or if we fall into them backwards by some convoluted tiebreaker we're going to be less than shamed by a good coach/QB on the road anyway in a necessarily clutch game where personal fouls are flying everywhere on ramped up emotion from The Motivator, who will go inexplicably conservative on defense.

I didn't get any of that until the last part.

[Mace]

I didn't get any of that until the last part.

If we fall into the playoffs backwards....get there because other people lost not that we won...

Not like we're going there anyway but if we did by other teams dorking up and then had the bejesus whaled out of us....wouldn't matter how many Ryan's we had.

[Historian]

I say hire him.

Then wheel in the old man as a consultant.

Then maybe we have a shot at the playoffs....

[cookie G]

It's not like our defense has been so awesome this year that anything Robbie contributes is going to make them fall apart. There's no bigger critic here of Rexy than me, but if his bro can provide any insight into the next three opponents, I'll take it.

Look at it this way. It's 11 pm at the casino and we've been crapping out most of the night. We have four throws left. Maybe, just maybe, he shakes his long, beautiful locks, blows on the dice, and we toss sevens. Or maybe he blows on the dice and it's snake eyes.

Or maybe blowing on the dice doesn't do anything.

He'd be better off just watching game tape from the prior 2 years.

[YardRat]

I say hire him.

Then wheel in the old man as a consultant.

Then maybe we have a shot at the playoffs....

One Ryan is more than enough. Three would be unbearable.

[feldspar]

One Ryan is more than enough. Three would be unbearable.

Why, is Rob pregnant?

I had my suspicions...