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MidnightVoice
12-31-2015, 01:32 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000613044/article/bills-planning-to-cut-mario-williams-this-offseason

Mario Williams is playing his final game in Buffalo on Sunday.

The Associated Press reported Thursday that the Bills plan to cut the defensive end this offseason, per an unnamed source with direct knowledge of discussions.
Every game, all season

The report meshes with NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport stating earlier this month that the disgruntled Williams could reach the free agent market. There is a "clear, fundamental disconnect" between coach Rex Ryan and his defensive line and Williams might be at the heart of the trouble, Rapoport said at the time.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c4f034441db348268846fc5fb08e4928/ap-source-bills-planning-cut-mario-williams-offseason

coastal
12-31-2015, 01:37 PM
17623

Mr. Cynical
12-31-2015, 02:13 PM
:bf1::bigwave:

bleve
12-31-2015, 02:17 PM
Wrecks is here

Never fear

He just needs

Another year

YardRat
12-31-2015, 02:36 PM
Not surprising. Best of luck Mario, hope you land with a coach that will best utilize your abilities and recognizes what your strengths are.

X-Era
12-31-2015, 02:40 PM
Not surprised.

Since day one I felt the best part of signing Mario was the fact that Buffalo was willing to pay the big money to sign a premiere free agent.

It made us relevant and a real player in free agency.

Mission accomplished.

I don't like that we are gutting the defense to adopt Rex's **** scheme but Mario way under-performed and is no longer worth the money.

Mr. Cynical
12-31-2015, 02:54 PM
Not surprised.

Since day one I felt the best part of signing Mario was the fact that Buffalo was willing to pay the big money to sign a premiere free agent.

It made us relevant and a real player in free agency.

Mission accomplished.

I don't like that we are gutting the defense to adopt Rex's **** scheme but Mario way under-performed and is no longer worth the money.

Yup. That really is the #1 thing he brought to the table. Otherwise, way overpriced for his production, which never lived up to the "super mario" nickname where he was supposed to disrupt and dominate games.

He'll get a chance somewhere else to be pass rush specialist, not an every down DE. And that will work for him since he already takes off 50-60% of the plays anyway. Has ever since he got here. The issue is $, I'm very curious what he'll get, since any team to pay him $19M should be declared clinically insane.

Ingtar33
12-31-2015, 03:40 PM
Not surprising. Best of luck Mario, hope you land with a coach that will best utilize your abilities and recognizes what your strengths are.

he'll be in NE next year. happily playing OLB, and rolling up 20 sacks in an LT like season.

Cause that's just how buffalo rolls.

Mr. Cynical
12-31-2015, 04:15 PM
he'll be in NE next year. happily playing OLB, and rolling up 20 sacks in an LT like season.

Cause that's just how buffalo rolls.

Normally I'd say yes, but....there's zero chance they will pay $19M as it's not the "patriot way". So, either Whinio takes a pay cut and decides he wants to win before he's done, or he shops himself to some stupid team willing to pay it out. Honestly, my guess is the latter. You just get the feeling he's in it for the $$$, not the love of the game.

Ingtar33
12-31-2015, 04:32 PM
Normally I'd say yes, but....there's zero chance they will pay $19M as it's not the "patriot way". So, either Whinio takes a pay cut and decides he wants to win before he's done, or he shops himself to some stupid team willing to pay it out. Honestly, my guess is the latter. You just get the feeling he's in it for the $$$, not the love of the game.

i would have said the same thing about a number of the vets they signed for well under market value. I think the appeal of winning a superbowl is still pretty good to 30+ yo players with tens of millions of dollars in the bank.

Mr. Pink
12-31-2015, 04:48 PM
He'll go somewhere else and play his natural 4-3 DE role, get paid around 10m per season and put up his normal 35 tackle 11 sack season.

Mr. Cynical
12-31-2015, 04:51 PM
He'll go somewhere else and play his natural 4-3 DE role, get paid around 10m per season and put up his normal 35 tackle 11 sack season.

....and take half the snaps off. But, at $10M, I'd almost be ok with that. Almost.

Mace
12-31-2015, 04:57 PM
May as well get it out of the way. I'm already resigned to losing Kyle also, and needing to rebuild the defense again in a couple years anyway once Ryan is booted.

Inevitable is inevitable.

justasportsfan
12-31-2015, 05:28 PM
All talent, not much heart. Took a DC like Schwartz to bring the best out of him .

Oh well. We have IK to replace him anyways.

BillsImpossible
12-31-2015, 05:44 PM
Mario should have never said that he wanted to play as the Will linebacker.

Rex did use Mario Williams at defensive end this year, and tried using both schemes early in the season to satisfy the players.

Didn't work. They went 4-3, more than people are willing to admit.

What I don't understand is how people blame Rex Ryan for the defensive falter. The players failed to adapt to a new system.

Pettine and Schwartz had two good defenses, but the window of opportunity closed on them in the Black Hole of Oakland last year.

2 years is a long time to dissect a defense.

An NFL defense can be "easy and not complex," for only so long before the Derek Carr's of the football world carve them up.

Coaches are still trying to figure out Bill Belichick's defense. It's like an unspoken foreign language with NSA encryption.

That's the kind of defense Rex is trying to implement, because you can't beat Belichick and the Patriots without knowing how to play their game.

The Bills and Rex Ryan need to knock the Patriots off of the AFC mountain, and the only way to do that is by learning how to speak Rexanese.

Ryan has the defensive clout to be given the benefit of the doubt.

Roman went to a Superbowl and how many NFC Championship games?

Mario had no respect for these coaches from the start, and that's puzzling.

He publicly stated that he wanted to play Will linebacker, got his opportunity and then *****ed about the defense.

Mario Williams is a World Class defensive diva with colored contacts.

I used to think he was HoF material, but his selfishness this season shown by his complete lack of effort is nothing short of disqualifying.

No coach wants a player that gives up.

"Buh-bye"

YardRat
12-31-2015, 05:55 PM
Belichek does well with multiple defenses because he keeps it simple (regardless of scheme or front), and puts the players in positions that play to their strengths, not weaknesses.

Mr. Cynical
12-31-2015, 06:10 PM
Belichek does well with multiple defenses because he keeps it simple (regardless of scheme or front), and puts the players in positions that play to their strengths, not weaknesses.

Tapping the other teams' headphones helps too. j/k

Mace
12-31-2015, 06:12 PM
Tapping the other teams' headphones helps too. j/k

After he deflates his balls.

BillsImpossible
12-31-2015, 06:22 PM
Belichek does well with multiple defenses because he keeps it simple (regardless of scheme or front), and puts the players in positions that play to their strengths, not weaknesses.

Then why in the hell did Belichick elect to kick off against the Jets in OT last week?

If he's playing to his team's strengths, you put the ball in Brady's hands.

Ingtar33
12-31-2015, 07:07 PM
Then why in the hell did Belichick elect to kick off against the Jets in OT last week?

If he's playing to his team's strengths, you put the ball in Brady's hands.

he knew the steelers lost, so he wanted to keep the steelers out of the playoffs. he tanked OT on purpose. (I'm only half kidding, at this point I'm not sure what this jackass has plotted out in advance anymore)

anyway, off to a NewYears party with the wife. have a good one everyone

IlluminatusUIUC
12-31-2015, 08:32 PM
Belichek does well with multiple defenses because he keeps it simple (regardless of scheme or front), and puts the players in positions that play to their strengths, not weaknesses.

Yeah one of his tricks that I heard about recently is interesting. He has weak (relatively) corners but a good free safety. Where most teams put their best corner on the opponent's best receiver, Belichick actually puts one of his weaker corners (Logan Ryan IIRC) on the opponent's #1 nearly all game but brackets him high with a safety on every snap. Ryan gets to play confidently because he always has help and Butler has an easier matchup against the #2.

BertSquirtgum
12-31-2015, 08:54 PM
Coastal has had a special bottle of lube ready for this news for three years. Its actually Jergens hand lotion with a picture of gold taped to it.

Turf
12-31-2015, 09:08 PM
WHy the hell did we sign Darius then, to play pass coverage? Might as well let him go as well to suit Ryan.

OpIv37
12-31-2015, 11:56 PM
We got some production out of Mario- certainly not what we paid for, but he contributed signifcantly to two really good defenses.

The bigger issue: only a dumpster fire of an organization like the Bills lets something like this leak when he still has a game to play in our colors. Maybe it motivates him to play for his last contract. Most likely, it ensures he takes every play off instead of just running downs.

swiper
01-01-2016, 04:13 AM
Williams certainly delivered some in his time here, but it never lived up to what it was supposed to be. Underachiever.

His unwillingness to renegotiate his contract means bye-bye with no apologies from Buffalo.

IlluminatusUIUC
01-01-2016, 06:54 AM
We got some production out of Mario- certainly not what we paid for, but he contributed signifcantly to two really good defenses.

The bigger issue: only a dumpster fire of an organization like the Bills lets something like this leak when he still has a game to play in our colors. Maybe it motivates him to play for his last contract. Most likely, it ensures he takes every play off instead of just running downs.

It wouldn't surprise me to see him benched, if his relationship with Rex and the team has eroded to this degree.

DynaPaul
01-01-2016, 08:02 AM
It blows my mind that with all the money he's making he has this attitude. If I'm making that much I don't give a crap if they switched me to CB, I'd still give it my best shot out there and thank the team.

Ginger Vitis
01-01-2016, 08:28 AM
I agree why bother playing him tomorrow it would be like having only 10 players on the field


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/01/unnamed-of-course-bill-mario-williams-has-totally-checked-out/

X-Era
01-01-2016, 10:39 AM
I think he's replaceable but we should expect less double teams on his position which will have a ripple effect on the D. I'd expect more runs making it to the LB level when the opposing OL is freed up to carry out more blocks.

We would need a solid replacement that really doesn't exist on the team.

Bill Cody
01-01-2016, 06:47 PM
I'd rather we cut Rex

EDS
01-01-2016, 08:54 PM
I am not sure how Mario crying about how he is used is any different than Watkins whining about wanting more balls thrown his way.

X-Era
01-02-2016, 09:01 AM
I am not sure how Mario crying about how he is used is any different than Watkins whining about wanting more balls thrown his way.
One doesn't want to help the team, the other wants to help more.

IlluminatusUIUC
01-02-2016, 09:57 AM
It blows my mind that with all the money he's making he has this attitude. If I'm making that much I don't give a crap if they switched me to CB, I'd still give it my best shot out there and thank the team.

If Mario was motivated by money, it is 100% in his interest to get off of Ryan's defense as fast as possible. It is not designed to produce gaudy sack numbers for any individual player and if he spent three years in that system it would crater his next deal.

Bill Cody
01-02-2016, 12:03 PM
If Mario was motivated by money, it is 100% in his interest to get off of Ryan's defense as fast as possible. It is not designed to produce gaudy sack numbers for any individual player and if he spent three years in that system it would crater his next deal.

Apparently it's not designed to produce sacks period. I'm on Mario's side. You don't make Joe Montana run the option. We had one of the best DL's in football last year. The difference this year is Rex Ryan.

stuckincincy
01-02-2016, 01:37 PM
Apparently it's not designed to produce sacks period. I'm on Mario's side. You don't make Joe Montana run the option. We had one of the best DL's in football last year. The difference this year is Rex Ryan.

Eh. They sold out for the pass rush. Neither Mario or Hughes are counted among the DEs in the league that play a complete game. Dareus shows up and then not. K. Williams got away with a lot of chippy play.

The problem that they face is that the club spend the big bucks for Mario and Hughes and have simply not used picks to restock the DL, especially in the interior.

trapezeus
01-03-2016, 06:34 AM
he'll be in NE next year. happily playing OLB, and rolling up 20 sacks in an LT like season.

Cause that's just how buffalo rolls.
20 vs the bills alone