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  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129

    Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

    I took a look at some of the jets DL draft picks since Rex was there and the successful ones and found that the majority of his DL are between 6'3 to 6'5 and about 290-305 pounds. He then likes to have two DT that are your typical Nose tackles. I am under the impression that he would like Marcel to start as the NT and of the three backups I think Charles and that other guy will compete for the backup NT job and Kyle can play it as well.

    I really hope Bryant and Charles are back next year as I think one will be a starter and Carrington will be good depth.

    Starting DL I think will be Bryant/Charles at one DE, Kyle/Marcel NT, Kyle/Marcel DE. Marcel is athletic enough to play DE in 3 man front and so is Kyle.

    Hughes will be a pass rusher and I am considering that to be an OLB, we need one of those as well.

    So in no order guys I have watched and liked.

    A'shawn Robinson (probably off the board)
    Jaren Reed (probably off the board)
    Robert Nkemdiche (hopefully off the board I do not want this guy bad character and repeat problem child in college, plus not as good as hype)
    Austin Johnson
    Jonathon Bullard
    Anthony Zettle
    Carl Nassib
    Vernon Butler
    Adolphous Washington
    Chris Jones
    Adam Gotsis
    Matt Ioanndis
    Delvon Simmons
    Jihad Ward
    Joel Heath
    Darius Latham

    There are several DE I really like that could maybe play on DL but I think better OLBs now (Lawson, Dodd, etc...) over 6'3 and about 275, if they bulk up to 285+ could be option as well. Rex did well with pass rush DTs Richardson and Wilkerson. Marcel can be one of those need another and another pass rusher.
  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129

    #2
    Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

    Any comments at all? Of course there are some studs on that list and some late round depth players. Wondering if any mid round guys that people think could be real good.

    I for one think if we could get Joel Heath in round 4 or 5 he could potentially become a starter. Chris Jones is another nice prospect he is a second rounder but I would rather take him in round 3 he has some technique work ahead of him.

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    • Night Train
      Retired - On Several Levels
      • Jul 2005
      • 33117

      #3
      Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

      I could see a DL prospect at some point, with Mario leaving but I'm not seeing that as a slam dunk in Round 1.

      LB (Bills need 2) and OT come into play. Safety at some point but not round 1, I hope.
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      • Joe Fo Sho
        Making Spirits Bright
        • Mar 2006
        • 6194

        #4
        Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

        I don't know nearly enough about any of these guys to add anything of substance. My only issue would be that we had a top DL in 2014 with each player locked up for the foreseeable future. It's rather upsetting that we might draft a D-Lineman in the 1st round when we have other needs that I think are more important, like LB and OL. I'd be fine taking a D-Lineman in the 3rd round or later. The Bills never do what I think they should, so I've come to expect to be surprised when they turn in their card. If there's a guy that fits Rex's system, then I guess we they'll take him, as Rex is clearly not willing to run a system that fits the players we have.

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        • YardRat
          Well, lookie here...
          • Dec 2004
          • 86154

          #5
          Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

          They need a space eating monster in the middle...leave Dareus at one end, I could live with Bryant/Charles/Carrington at the other. Kyle should be there also. We have plenty of guys that can play DE in a three man front, but nobody to man the middle.
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          • Mace
            Haha...yeah you think so ?
            • Mar 2013
            • 20315

            #6
            Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            They need a space eating monster in the middle...
            ...who can drop into coverage.

            I want to get excited about some of the guys on that list, but I honestly don't expect them to draft anyone I'd get excited about. I know what I think they need, and it won't match what Whaley/Ryan think they need. Remember, Ryan figures he coaches people up, and Whaley grabs shinies and sticks with his previous picks like glue. So to me that means they get a safety, then a wr, or a wr then a safety in the first two rounds.

            After that, I dunno. Not even sure of that if Whaley inexplicably sees an available TE or RB he wants, or a CB he thinks is his best value.

            I love the draft lead up, window shopping and all, but I'm not feeling any enthusiasm because I don't even trust this team to do the obvious right thing anymore.

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            • DesertFox24
              Registered User
              • Jul 2005
              • 2129

              #7
              Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

              Well I will say this no matter who they draft they deserve benefit of the doubt. Whaley has done well.

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              • Mace
                Haha...yeah you think so ?
                • Mar 2013
                • 20315

                #8
                Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                Well I will say this no matter who they draft they deserve benefit of the doubt. Whaley has done well.
                I'd still disagree about Whaley, but I'd sure like me one a them linemen anyway. Bullard could be a younger Kyle, or Ioannidis. Any of the top 3 slip lower, I'd grab them.

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                • Turf
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8377

                  #9
                  Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                  We need another 300LB DT to play cover 4. Our biggest need.
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                  • k-oneputt
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7131

                    #10
                    Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                    A'Shawn Robinson would be the ideal pick imo.

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                    • stuckincincy
                      Buffalo Bills Fan
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 15084

                      #11
                      Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                      Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                      I took a look at some of the jets DL draft picks since Rex was there and the successful ones and found that the majority of his DL are between 6'3 to 6'5 and about 290-305 pounds. He then likes to have two DT that are your typical Nose tackles. I am under the impression that he would like Marcel to start as the NT and of the three backups I think Charles and that other guy will compete for the backup NT job and Kyle can play it as well.

                      I really hope Bryant and Charles are back next year as I think one will be a starter and Carrington will be good depth.

                      Starting DL I think will be Bryant/Charles at one DE, Kyle/Marcel NT, Kyle/Marcel DE. Marcel is athletic enough to play DE in 3 man front and so is Kyle.

                      Hughes will be a pass rusher and I am considering that to be an OLB, we need one of those as well.

                      So in no order guys I have watched and liked.

                      A'shawn Robinson (probably off the board)
                      Jaren Reed (probably off the board)
                      Robert Nkemdiche (hopefully off the board I do not want this guy bad character and repeat problem child in college, plus not as good as hype)
                      Austin Johnson
                      Jonathon Bullard
                      Anthony Zettle
                      Carl Nassib
                      Vernon Butler
                      Adolphous Washington
                      Chris Jones
                      Adam Gotsis
                      Matt Ioanndis
                      Delvon Simmons
                      Jihad Ward
                      Joel Heath
                      Darius Latham

                      There are several DE I really like that could maybe play on DL but I think better OLBs now (Lawson, Dodd, etc...) over 6'3 and about 275, if they bulk up to 285+ could be option as well. Rex did well with pass rush DTs Richardson and Wilkerson. Marcel can be one of those need another and another pass rusher.
                      Good post. I've been critical of BUF for the past several years for not drafting into the DT spot. You really need to develop some reliable "fresh legs" on the bench to beep up interior pressure.
                      Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                      • Mace
                        Haha...yeah you think so ?
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 20315

                        #12
                        Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                        Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                        You really need to develop some reliable "fresh legs" on the bench to beep up interior pressure.
                        Well most teams would, but we need better pass coverage DT's to take the pressure off of our pass rush db's. You forgot we have a defensive genius.

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86154

                          #13
                          Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                          Whaley has yet to draft a defensive lineman for Buffalo...ever.

                          2013-QB-WR-ILB-WR-S-S-PK-TE
                          2014-WR-OT-ILB-CB-G-OLB-OT
                          2015-CB-G-RB-OLB-TE-WR

                          21 picks---8 offensive skill positions, 4 dbacks, 4 lbers, 4 olinemen, 1 kicker.

                          Wryan's last three years in NYJ--

                          2012-DE-WR-OLB-S-RB-G-S-WR
                          2013-CB-DT-QB-G-G-G-FB
                          2014-S-TE-CB-WR-WR-OT-ILB-CB-WR-DE-QB-OLB

                          Wrecks has taken three dlinemen, two in the first round...one a bust. 27 picks total. 10 offensive skill positions, 6 dbacks, 5 olinemen, 3 dlinemen, 3 lbers.

                          48 total picks, one dlineman that is decent. If they pick a dlineman, it will be bucking a trend. If they get one that is actually a player, it will be a minor miracle.
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                          • Mace
                            Haha...yeah you think so ?
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 20315

                            #14
                            Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                            Whaley has yet to draft a defensive lineman for Buffalo...ever.
                            He didn't really do too good in drafting offensive ones either. It's probably a problem with his way of looking at things imho, not like Rex won't cover him in his ability to um, coach people up.

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                            • stuckincincy
                              Buffalo Bills Fan
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 15084

                              #15
                              Re: Def Line Prospects Bills May look at

                              Originally posted by Mace View Post
                              He didn't really do too good in drafting offensive ones either. It's probably a problem with his way of looking at things imho, not like Rex won't cover him in his ability to um, coach people up.
                              If you are scouting-challenged regarding OL, draft Iowa, Missouri, and Wisconsin players.
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