Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

[Mike]

2 Superstars that helped lead the Panthers to 15-1 and a SB 50

Bills wanted both players badly. Even tried trading up for both!

2 Games Separated the Bills from
the Panthers in 2011 (Cam Draft) & 2012 Draft (Luke draft).

> 2 Games and a tiebreaker these these superstars would be wearing a Bills uniform.<

Instead the Bills got the privlage of winning short term & 2 meaningless games while the Panthers won long term and lost a few extra meaningless games.

Who would you rather be?

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

If these 2 players is all it takes to get to the Super Bowl, then clearly we did not try hard enough to trade up.

[Oaf]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

I thought about this too. If Tebow would've beat us in '11, we would've had Kueckly. In 2010, Fitz won 3 games by 3 or less points.

In the '10 Fins win, Dan Carpenter went ZERO for FOUR.

[Oaf]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201011...23c3&tab=recap Pretty funny mik'd clip.

[feldspar]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

**** all that.

If you want to regret something, regret how we could have easily had Aaron Rodgers.

[Mouldsie]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

Don't forget they also did this to us in 2002 with Julius Peppers.

But those worthless late season victories helped us build a "culture of winning."

[pmoon6]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

"Woulda, shoulda, coulda". Only losers want to lose in order to draft a prospect and only losers cry about scenarios in hindsight.

Of course, "Loser" describes the portion of the Bills' Fanbase that posts here.

[BertSquirtgum]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

Why even bother looking back and thinking about this crap? It didn't happen, **** it. It is what it is.

[Albany,n.y.]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

When the Bills started 0-8, I thought we could get Newton. Then the team won 4 totally meaningless games and the fans felt so good because after every one of those 4 wins they celebrated wildly and went to work happy on Monday. Those 4 wins were fantastic and if you ask the fans who loved every moment of those 4 wins they'd tell you they wouldn't trade a single one for the opportunity to be in the Super Bowl 5 years later because the feeling after each win was so darn good.

[coastal]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

Who did we get instead of Gronk?

[MillsapsBillsFan]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

Who did we get instead of Gronk?

Torell Troup. Now that's one you can really look back and be mad about, not this "well if we would have lost more games we could have had _______" crap

[coastal]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

Torell Troup. Now that's one you can really look back and be mad about, not this "well if we would have lost more games we could have had _______" crap

Wasn't that John McCArgo's cousin?

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

I haven't liked plenty of their picks over the years, none of them really stand out to me as moments at that time where I thought they should have picked player x instead of player y, outside of the trade up for McCargo which I, and others, thought instantly was done to grab Mangold. Boy were we surprised and we would have been set at Center still if we made the right move.

There are guys like Korey Lichtensteiger and Mason Crosby who I thought the Bills should have picked up in mid to late rounds but that's all crapshoot anyway.

In the worthless wins category, a late season victory against the Jets cost the team Ben Roethlisberger. Ben was actually a guy the Donahoe led Bills were high on and was in a year where we taking the heir apparent to Bledsoe, as evidenced by the trade up to get Losman.

[coastal]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

Losman... lol.

[Mike]

Re: Cam Newton & Luke Keachly

Why even bother looking back and thinking about this crap? It didn't happen, **** it. It is what it is.

I only bring this up becuase, in just about every season of past 15 years, Bills find a way to Win those meaningless games and the Fans root for those meaningless wins sighting things like 'winning culture'

I bring this up because chances are the Bills will be in this same position next season or season after and like clockwork we will miss out on the next Cam, or Luke or Big Ben.

I bring this up so you see that it does make a difference. A win or 2 has NOT improved the Culture and turned this team into a Winner but it has Cost us opportunity to get great players.