Yzerman

[coastal]

Is his ego getting in the way of the success of the Lightning? Sure... they're coming off of Stanely Cup Finals berth, but there seems to be a pattern of Yzerman running off the talented leaders of the team.

Lecalvier - bought out
St. Louis - traded
Stamkos - no contract extension. Allegedly $8.5 million was offered but that's $2 million shy of Toews/Kane money. The year is coming to an end and Stammer may be a Leaf in a handful of months from now.
Drouin - 3rd overall pick and being shipped out of town here soon due to a control drama.

Now don't get me wrong... I think buying out Vinny L was a great move. He's no leader and akin to a Mario Williams. All the talent in the world and just out there collecting a pay check.

My point is this however, high end talent doesn't grow on trees and you can only add so many high character guys like Callahan on to your team before you need people that can put the biscuit in the net.

Losing Stamkos would be monumentally stupid on his part... especially with Drouin now on the outs.

[JATMtheJATM]

I don't think yzerman has an inflated ego. So no, I don't think that's it.

[coastal]

Is it just coincidence that he all of the high talented leaders are on the outs? Or are they all the right, albeit tough, decisions?

[JATMtheJATM]

Is it just coincidence that he all of the high talented leaders are on the outs? Or are they all the right, albeit tough, decisions?

Making a move that ends up being poor doesn't mean you have an ego, it just means you are wrong. It doesn't have to be one way or another

[coastal]

The pattern, if you agree one exists, isn't telling though?

[Dr. Lecter]

With the Stamkos situation is it him or ownership not offering the bucks?

[coastal]

With the Stamkos situation is it him or ownership not offering the bucks?
To my understanding, Yzerman is the man.

[JATMtheJATM]

The pattern, if you agree one exists, isn't telling though?

Lecavalier was a buyout. Needed to be done. St Louis requested a trade. Drouin is a young kid who needs to grow. It's not so much a pattern as it is running a team. Some moves win, some moves lose.

[mightysimi]

http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/tampa-bay-lightning

looking at this, it looks like it is all cap issues. They have a ton of dough tied up in mediocre D and some guys like Kucherov, Namestnikov, Killorn and others for a total of 7 RFA's on the roster and those 3 are good part of their team. There isn't enough to go around. You could probably keep 2 of those RFA's long term and get a nice package for him. He is elite and you should find a way but the numbers don't look good.

Then both goalies come up the year after. Enjoy Toronto Stammer.

[Ginger Vitis]

Some GMs around the league are encouraging Yzerman NOT to trade Drouin and make him suffer... The don't want this kid who is on a entry level contract to get his way

[DetDannyWilliams]

The Panthers could have just made it a little more harder for Yzerman and Tampa Bay Lightning to resign Stamkos as Barkov signed a contract of $35.4 million which runs through 2021-22 season

Financial terms were not disclosed. The Miami Herald reported the contract, which runs through the 2021-22 season, is worth $35.4 million. The Panthers selected Barkov with the second pick in the 2013 NHL Draft. His entry-level contract expires July 1; his salary-cap charge this season is $925,000, according to war-on-ice.com.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=799596

[JATMtheJATM]

No, the two players are at completely different stages of their careers and are not comparable

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No, the two players are at completely different stages of their careers and are not comparable

[Crisis]

No, the two players are at completely different stages of their careers and are not comparable

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No, the two players are at completely different stages of their careers and are not comparable

Right? Barkov is already proven at the NHL level and looks exceptional. Drouin is still a huge question mark at this point, on top of character issues now.

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No, the two players are at completely different stages of their careers and are not comparable

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No, the two players are at completely different stages of their careers and are not comparable

Right? Barkov is already proven at the NHL level and looks exceptional. Drouin is still a huge question mark at this point, on top of character issues now.

[JATMtheJATM]

Right? Barkov is already proven at the NHL level and looks exceptional. Drouin is still a huge question mark at this point, on top of character issues now.

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Right? Barkov is already proven at the NHL level and looks exceptional. Drouin is still a huge question mark at this point, on top of character issues now.

No, I mean the claim that barkovs deal makes the Tampa signing stamkos harder. Complete different circumstances.

This guy just makes **** up.

[Dr. Lecter]

He wasn't comparing Barkov to Drouin. he was comparing him to Stamkos

[Crisis]

I don't even know what I was reading. Read the post about Drouin right above I suppose. My mistake!

But still, Barkov has no bearing on what Stamkos will make. Florida is paying Barkov for RFA years.

[JATMtheJATM]

I don't even know what I was reading. Read the post about Drouin right above I suppose. My mistake!

But still, Barkov has no bearing on what Stamkos will make. Florida is paying Barkov for RFA years.

Exactly. Det Danny Williams makes bull**** up on the reg. Last week he claimed THE NHL was investigating detroits water situation. Except, the situation isnt in detroit. He got caught bull****ting. Bad

[JATMtheJATM]

I don't even know what I was reading. Read the post about Drouin right above I suppose. My mistake!

But still, Barkov has no bearing on what Stamkos will make. Florida is paying Barkov for RFA years.

Exactly. Det Danny Williams makes bull**** up on the reg. Last week he claimed THE NHL was investigating detroits water situation. Except, the situation isnt in detroit. He got caught bull****ting. Bad

[coastal]

http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/tampa-bay-lightning

looking at this, it looks like it is all cap issues. They have a ton of dough tied up in mediocre D and some guys like Kucherov, Namestnikov, Killorn and others for a total of 7 RFA's on the roster and those 3 are good part of their team. There isn't enough to go around. You could probably keep 2 of those RFA's long term and get a nice package for him. He is elite and you should find a way but the numbers don't look good.

Then both goalies come up the year after. Enjoy Toronto Stammer.
Then u trade assets to get prospects or draft choices and you PAY Stammer.

[JATMtheJATM]

I'd probably offer up bishop and let vasy take over.

[coastal]

Cooper has Stammer back at center and he's producing... shocking.

i hope he gets to FA and we take a run at him.

Love be the possibility of our first line being...

ROR - Stamkos - Reinhart