2016 - Draft simulator time....

[Mace]

Someone posted this last year, forgot who, step up for another thanks. Had endless fun with it right up until draft day. Already having fun with it again though it's way too early. At the very least it helps me get familiar with prospects.

http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/

[Mace]

It's too early. I keep taking the best kicker in the 4th round, panicking he won't be available next.

[YardRat]

Using CBS...


19: R1P19
DT JARRAN REED
ALABAMA



49: R2P18
SS VONN BELL
OHIO STATE



80: R3P17
K ROBERTO AGUAYO
FLORIDA STATE



114: R4P19
WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON
MISSISSIPPI STATE



144: R5P17
CB CYRUS JONES
ALABAMA



174: R6P17
OT AVERY YOUNG
AUBURN



I completely whiffed on LBer, and DB's going to be pissed at me because Wentz was available at 19 and I passed on him.

[Mace]

Using CBS...


19: R1P19
DT JARRAN REED
ALABAMA



49: R2P18
SS VONN BELL
OHIO STATE



80: R3P17
K ROBERTO AGUAYO
FLORIDA STATE



114: R4P19
WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON
MISSISSIPPI STATE



144: R5P17
CB CYRUS JONES
ALABAMA



174: R6P17
OT AVERY YOUNG
AUBURN



I completely whiffed on LBer, and DB's going to be pissed at me because Wentz was available at 19 and I passed on him.

Haha, you panicked on the kicker also.

[YardRat]

Draftek...


19: R1P19
DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON
ALABAMA



49: R2P18
OLB DARRON LEE
OHIO ST



80: R3P17
WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON
MISSISSIPPI ST



114: R4P19
QB KEVIN HOGAN
STANFORD



144: R5P17
OT SPENCER DRANGO
BAYLOR



174: R6P17
S TONY CONNER
OLE MISS

[YardRat]

Fanspeak...


19: R1P19
DE EMMANUEL OGBAH
OKLAHOMA STATE



49: R2P18
DT JARRAN REED
ALABAMA



80: R3P17
OLB JORDAN JENKINS
GEORGIA



114: R4P19
WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON
MISSISSIPPI STATE



144: R5P17
K ROBERTO AGUAYO
FLORIDA STATE



174: R6P17
CB WILLIAM JACKSON III
HOUSTON



Damn Wilson is there every time. Got to hold until the fifth for kicker :D

[YardRat]

Bleacher Report...


19: R1P19
WR LAQUON TREADWELL
OLE MISS



49: R2P18
S VONN BELL
OHIO STATE



80: R3P17
DT SHELDON DAY
NOTRE DAME



114: R4P19
K ROBERTO AGUAYO
FSU



144: R5P17
CB KEVON SEYMOUR
USC



174: R6P17
QB VERNON ADAMS
OREGON



I can't get my hands on big men for the oline to save my life :sad:

[Mace]

I'm noticing so far I always (past the kicker fixation) go after Su'a Cravens (OLB listed but a OLB/safety hybrid in the 2nd), De'Runnya Wilson (tall WR) and Cardale Jones (in the 3rd and 4th, depending), and Nile Lawrence-Stample (DT/NT) later.

First round I'm always going after ILB Ragland if available, or OT Conklin.

[sukie]

This kicker is worthy of a fixation... I don't see him making it to round 4. Especially with the PAT changes

[Mace]

This kicker is worthy of a fixation... I don't see him making it to round 4. Especially with the PAT changes

Thanks, now I'm back to panic picking the kicker.

[SpikedLemonade]

If we actually draft a K before we draft any OL, I will absolutely lose my mind.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I just did one round and Goff fell all the way to 19. Alrighty then.

[Ginger Vitis]

Draftek


19: R1P19


QB JARED GOFF

CALIFORNIA


49: R2P18


DT JARRAN REED

ALABAMA


80: R3P17


OLB SU'A CRAVENS

USC


114: R4P19


C AUSTIN BLYTHE

IOWA

[cookie G]

I can't think of a draft I've looked forward to less than this..because I know how its going to be. 4 of the 1st 5 picks will be "3-4 D" scheme guys...a RB and a late round steal OT. so..this really means little.

And..I didn't get to watch much college football this year ,but anyway:

I used the Fanspeak list..and I question whether some will be there..

1. Miles Jack, LB UCLA. Unlikely to be there, but there he was, so it was too good to pass up. Now...use him as a 2 gap DT, Rex...or maybe as a CB..but don't complain about lack of talent, Buffoon.

2. OT JOHN THEUS GEORGIA Rex and Rob whined about not taking a SS or 5 Tech DE ...but its time they learned to coach beyond their own egos.

This is another stab at fixing the RT position with a 4 year SEC starter. The position was bad last year, and it was bad the year before and no talk of getting a 7th round steal changes that. I'm falling away from the 6'8" 340 lb RT's. Teams are sending quicker and quicker outside rushers to that side. Your RT needs some athletic ability.

3. C RYAN KELLY Not big on his size, but big on his playing ability. John Miller, who I like, has to get better as a G, he just does. Even with a run oriented team, you can't pass block that poorly and hope to make it in the NFL.

So....enter the Rimington award winning center who hasn't given up a sack in 2 seasons. Am I beginning to question Bama Olinemen in the NFL? Yes. Do I prefer that Miller gets better? yes. But it does open possibilities. If Kelly is better as a center, Wood can be moved to guard, or ...Kelly can move to guard.

4. WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO ST - better 2014 than 2015, but lost his coach and his QB. He works out ...great. If not..its like most other 4th round picks.

5. DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH - there's your fat NT, Rex...now let Dareus and Kyle Williams 1 gap, twist, stunt and go back to doing what they do best..ya moron.

6. TE TYLER HIGBEE The Hilltoppers. Not likely he is there in the 6th. But 2 athletic TE's is a nice option. Unless one of them is a gang banger and ends up murdering people.

[ParanoidAndroid]

1. OT Taylor Decker
2. DT Austin Johnson
3. LB Scooby Wright III
4. DE Sean Oakman
5. OLB Yannick Ngakoue
6. WR Cayleb Jones

Defense retooled/backed up, the next late-round WR steal and an OT to provide leverage against Glenn.

[sudzy]

Drafttek ranking

1) Shaq Lawson OLB Mario's replacement
2) Jarran Reed DE/NT Couldn't believe he was there
3) Su'a Cravens OLB/S starter at safety day one
4)Rashard Higgins WR Looked at Cardale Jones here, went for the reliable WR that's an upgrade to Hogan.
5) Pearce Slater OT 330# goes into the mix at RT
6) Robert Aguayo PK 6th rounder who replaces 2 guys on the team. Can't beat that.

Pretty happy. Three guys that can play Rex's defense. Would have liked to drafted someone at ILB, No one was ever there. Maybe I'd get Brandon Spikes cheap. Also would have liked a QB.

[Mace]

OK, pre-combine, using CBS, I don't really think it can possibly work out this way, but it's early and I'm having fun. I nearly completely bailed on the offense to load Rex with toys, if he can't use them he needs to leave and give back money or be beaten with sticks and pelted with rocks and garbage.


19: R1P19 DE SHAQ LAWSON CLEMSON : He's there, welcome to Buffalo, Shaq, goodbye Mario.



49: R2P18 DT JARRAN REED ALABAMA : Alrighty then. NT, DE, both ? Say hello to Orchard Park and get nice neighbors.



80: R3P17 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE : "Hollywood" Higgins, snarky, capable possession receiver, go home Roman, that's it for you.



114: R4P19 SS JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON : Big developmental guy with a boatload of maybe for just about everything if he puts on some weight muscle, have fun, Rex.



144: R5P17 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD : Smart, capable, new MLB, welcome to the bench, Preston.



174: R6P17 OLB CURT MAGGITT TENNESSEE : Tank. Quick tank. Dance with Mr. Martinez, Mr. Maggit, move around and do your thing, Kearse and Martinez will do the rest.

If Rex can't make a top 5 defense with these guys, Whaley's chosen o-line can't hold up their end, and Roman can't hold up his end like he did this year, fire everyone and start over and too damn bad you spent too much money on them because your team blows.

[Mace]

Pre combine Draftek :


19: R1P19 OLB MYLES JACK UCLA : He was there, no brainer.




49: R2P18 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON : Ryan's future SS of glory.




80: R3P17 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU : Every good defense needs a Phil Hansen who is better than Phil Hansen.




114: R4P19 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA ST : Well, he was available, end this right tackle wondering right now.




144: R5P17 G JORDAN WALSH IOWA : Is he a guard, is he a center ? He's goodbye to Urbik.




174: R6P17 DT NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE FLORIDA STATE : Nose tackle. Violent hands. Got to like a nose tackle with violent hands.

[Mace]

I noticed they added more big boards (I love it when they add a combined big board). I'm unfamiliar with NFL Draft Geek so decided to use it as my source. I put some thought and strategy into this one which I will explain after.


19: R1P19 FB GLENN GRONKOWSKI KANSAS STATE



49: R2P18 FB DAN VITALE NORTHWESTERN



80: R3P17 FB SIONE HOUMA MICHIGAN



118: R4P19 CB FABIAN MOREAU UCLA



156: R5P17 CB V'ANGELO BENTLEY ILLINOIS



195: R6P17 CB ARTIE BURNS MIAMI



I quickly noticed there were only 3 fullbacks, so I took all of them to screw the rest of the league. After I got them all, put that in your pipe and smoke it Belichick, I went after nothing but the lowest rated CB's, because you can never have enough of them and I'd surely find a sleeper to back up Darby & Gilmore. One of these guys should be able to punt also in case Schmidt gets hurt at an inopportune time. Got a guy named Fabian too to sing rousing songs before practice. Also got a V'Angelo and an Artie Burns (use some ointment for that) ! I wanted Taveze too but ran out of picks too soon.

[ParanoidAndroid]

It's fixed! WR was a fail for me. Other, more intriguing players kept making me move away from them.

19: R1P19 DT SHELDON RANKINS
LOUISVILLE


49: R2P18
OT GERMAIN IFEDI
TEXAS A&M



80: R3P17
OLB JORDAN JENKINS
GEORGIA



118: R4P19
QB DAK PRESCOTT
MISSISSIPPI STATE



140: R4P41
S KJ DILLON
WVU



157: R5P17
RB KEITH MARSHALL
GEORGIA



193: R6P17
DE CHARLES TAPPER
OKLAHOMA



219: R6P43
WR CAYLEB JONES
ARIZONA

[DraftBoy]

19: R1P19 - OLB DARRON LEE - OHIO STATE

49: R2P18 - DT KENNY CLARK - UCLA

80: R3P17 - QB CONNOR COOK - MICHIGAN STATE

118: R4P19 - OT JOHN THEUS - GEORGIA

140: R4P41 - WR CHARONE PEAKE - CLEMSON

157: R5P17 - DE SHAWN OAKMAN - BAYLOR

193: R6P17 - TE DEVON CAJUSTE - STANFORD

219: R6P43 - WR DUKE WILLIAMS - AUBURN

Bleacher Report Big Board

[k-oneputt]

NFL.com

DT-Nkemdiche
LB- Floyd
WR- P.Cooper
LB- A. Morrison
QB- Hackenberg
S- D. Bush
K- Aguayo
CB- Worley

[ParanoidAndroid]

Gave it one more go. Fanspeak Board. And..... SUPERBOWL! This is ridiculous... but fun as hell.

19: R1P19 DT SHELDON RANKINS
LOUISVILLE


49: R2P18
ILB REGGIE RAGLAND
ALABAMA



80: R3P17
OLB JAYLON SMITH
NOTRE DAME



118: R4P19
OT LE'RAVEN CLARK
TEXAS TECH



140: R4P41
CB RASHARD ROBINSON
LSU



157: R5P17
OLB DEION JONES
LSU



193: R6P17
G CONNOR MCGOVERN
MISSOURI



219: R6P43
WR MALCOLM MITCHELL
GEORGIA

[YardRat]

OK I like this draft (CBSSports)


19: R1P19
ILB REGGIE RAGLAND
ALABAMA



49: R2P18
DT AUSTIN JOHNSON
PENN STATE



80: R3P17
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA



118: R4P19
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



140: R4P41
K ROBERTO AGUAYO
FLORIDA STATE



157: R5P17
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



193: R6P17
QB JAKE COKER
ALABAMA



219: R6P43
OLB ANTWIONE WILLIAMS
GEORGIA SOUTHERN



A starting ILB and possible NT in the first two rounds. A road-grader guard, a big WR with ball skills. I resisted temptation in the third round, and first pick in the fourth, but couldn't pass up Aguayo as he was still just sitting there at the comp pick (sorry Mace). Bradberry I actually took under the notion he can be moved (and is probably a much better fit) for safety. A project QB, and hard-hitting OLB. Didn't get a DE or OT, but I'm OK with that after filling a bunch of other holes.

[Mace]

Post combine - CBS (I think the CBS is harshest and most likely)



19: R1P19 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE : A mashing mean tackle to end the RT follies for 5 years.




49: R2P18 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA : Hybrid OLB/safety with range, made for a Ryan defense.




80: R3P17 DE JIHAD WARD ILLINOIS : Undervalued impact player imho, having a killer offseason. Won't miss Mario.




118: R4P19 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE : Well, here's another one in need of tuning, mobile tank with rocket arm = next maybe.




140: R4P41 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD : Dependable lb with flashes of impressive.




157: R5P17 DT NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE FLORIDA STATE : There's the rotational 2 gap NT who can play some football.




193: R6P17 G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE : Former LT and dependable swing lineman who can step in wherever if needed.




219: R6P43 OLB CURT MAGGITT TENNESSEE : Underrated (imho) lb with range and ability for inside/outside as needed.

I could never bring myself to take Aguayo (sorry Yardrat), without being sorry I didn't take someone else. I took 3 lb's thinking I took two and a strong safety to butch up Ryan's D. Couldn't resist Conklin in the 1st or Dahl in the 6th to add some stable to the OL, and I think Martinez, Cravens, Jihad Ward, and Maggit (Maggit like legit) could have impressive careers in the right defense. Ryan's ? Ryan's.

I still think you get a kicker and WR from udfa, and as many replacement rb's as you need.

[YardRat]

OK, I resisted the temptation at both K and QB...(Bleacher)


19: R1P19
DT VERNON BUTLER
LOUISIANA TECH



49: R2P18
OLB SU'A CRAVENS
USC



80: R3P17
C GRAHAM GLASGOW
MICHIGAN



118: R4P19
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



140: R4P41
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



157: R5P17
TE TYLER HIGBEE
WESTERN KENTUCKY



193: R6P17
OT AVERY YOUNG
AUBURN



219: R6P43
DT D.J. READER
CLEMSON

[Mace]

OK, I resisted the temptation at both K and QB...(Bleacher)


19: R1P19
DT VERNON BUTLER
LOUISIANA TECH



49: R2P18
OLB SU'A CRAVENS
USC



80: R3P17
C GRAHAM GLASGOW
MICHIGAN



118: R4P19
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



140: R4P41
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



157: R5P17
TE TYLER HIGBEE
WESTERN KENTUCKY



193: R6P17
OT AVERY YOUNG
AUBURN



219: R6P43
DT D.J. READER
CLEMSON

Hm, why a center, a cb, te and 2 dt's with no de, or ilb ? I have to try bleacher.

[Mace]

3/17 - Bleacher, might have been my best draft ever.


19: R1P19 DT JARRAN REED ALABAMA



49: R2P18 DE EMMANUEL OGBAH OKLAHOMA STATE



80: R3P17 G LANDON TURNER NORTH CAROLINA



118: R4P19 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE



140: R4P41 OLB YANNICK NGAKOUE MARYLAND



157: R5P17 ILB TYLER MATAKEVICH TEMPLE



193: R6P17 OT SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR



219: R6P43 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE

[YardRat]

Hm, why a center, a cb, te and 2 dt's with no de, or ilb ? I have to try bleacher.

Glasgow can play any of the three interior positions.
Bradberry, again, being moved to safety. Don't think he has enough agility to play corner.
I have real problems finding a DE no matter whose list I use...the good ones that fit go early, and the later ones are too light, probably better fits at OLB.
Disappointed I didn't land an ILB, but couldn't pass up Lawler, Higbee in the fifth, or Reader at the end of the sixth.

[Mace]

Glasgow can play any of the three interior positions.
Bradberry, again, being moved to safety. Don't think he has enough agility to play corner.
I have real problems finding a DE no matter whose list I use...the good ones that fit go early, and the later ones are too light, probably better fits at OLB.
Disappointed I didn't land an ILB, but couldn't pass up Lawler, Higbee in the fifth, or Reader at the end of the sixth.

I've grabbed Lawler, Reader and Glasgow a few times. James Cowser is not a bad middle rounds DE option (not a great one either, but think stand up DE) or Jihad Ward if he's there in the 3rd because he never will be in the 4th, and I occasionally fall back on Jordan Walsh g/c from Iowa near the end of the draft to add some depth. I'm always looking at de's they figure will add some weight reliably (because they have) to avoid Maybins. More than a few Hughes type hybrid ends, but I'm thinking Ryan moves Kyle to end role in 3-4 anyway, when not tackle in 4-3.

In most of my sim drafts I still like getting Su'a Cravens as hybrid olb/ss, or make a play for Jayron Kearse, or Miles Killebrew if he lasts too long, and I go after Blake Martinez often (he's one of those who plays better than he seems on paper).

Best thing I think about this draft, and the most optimistic I'll get about Ryan, is that there are a ton of guys he can move around with deadly effect if he's really all that.

[YardRat]

The problem I seem to continue to have with CBS is once you get into the fourth round there are a plethora of offensive skill positions stacked up (as far as their rankings, anyway) and you really have to reach a little bit to get to any big guys or defensive front seven.


19: R1P19
ILB REGGIE RAGLAND
ALABAMA



49: R2P18
S VONN BELL
OHIO STATE



80: R3P17
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA



118: R4P19
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



140: R4P41
DE JIHAD WARD
ILLINOIS



157: R5P17
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



193: R6P17
OT AVERY YOUNG
AUBURN



219: R6P43
OLB ANTWIONE WILLIAMS
GEORGIA SOUTHERN



However, I actually like this draft a lot. I know I grabbed Bell in the second, but I can't get past leaving Bradberry there in the fifth with the thought of converting him. Finally got a DE that should fit Wrecks' system with Jihad Ward in the fourth, but wasn't able to land an NT.

[Mace]

Heh, I can't get Jihad Ward in the 4th using CBS to save my life.

[swiper]

19: R1P19
QB JARED GOFF
CALIFORNIA


49: R2P18
OT SHON COLEMAN
AUBURN


80: R3P17
S JALEN MILLS
LSU


118: R4P19
WR RASHARD HIGGINS
COLORADO ST


140: R4P41
CB DAMONTAE KAZEE
SAN DIEGO ST


157: R5P17
DE ROMEO OKWARA
NOTRE DAME


193: R6P17
K ROBERT AGUAYO
FLORIDA ST


219: R6P43
CB DARYL WORLEY
WEST VIRGINIA

[ParanoidAndroid]

The composite board is up and it just dumps DT's, OT's and LB's in the first 2 rounds. There's nothing left by round 3.

[Mace]

The composite board is up and it just dumps DT's, OT's and LB's in the first 2 rounds. There's nothing left by round 3.

That's why I love it, it's mean and makes you work for it.

[Mace]

That's why I love it, it's mean and makes you work for it.

Hm, on the other hand sometimes you get such improbably good results you can't even use them in your wildest dreams.

[YardRat]

First attempt with the composite...


19: R1P19
DE SHAQ LAWSON
CLEMSON



49: R2P18
DT VERNON BUTLER
LOUISIANA TECH



80: R3P17
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA



118: R4P19
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



140: R4P41
K ROBERTO AGUAYO
FLORIDA STATE



157: R5P17
ILB TYLER MATAKEVICH
TEMPLE



193: R6P17
OLB TERRANCE SMITH
FSU



219: R6P43
OT FAHN COOPER
OLE MISS



Had to wait until late to get LBers, and no safety prospect.

[YardRat]

19: R1P19
ILB REGGIE RAGLAND
ALABAMA



49: R2P18
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA



80: R3P17
DE JIHAD WARD
ILLINOIS



118: R4P19
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



140: R4P41
DT D.J. READER
CLEMSON



157: R5P17
OT JOHN THEUS
GEORGIA



193: R6P17
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



219: R6P43
OLB ANTWIONE WILLIAMS
GEORGIA SOUTHERN

[YardRat]

Here's my composite wish list-

Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama / LaQuon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss / Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama / Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
Von Bell, S, Ohio State / Vernon Butler, DT, La Tech / Darron Lee, ILB, Ohio State / Landon Turner, OG, North Carolina
Su'a Cravens, S/LB, USC / Jihad Ward, Dt, Illinois / Graham Glasgow, C/G, Michigan / Charone Peake, WR, Clemson
Kenny Lawler, WR, California / De-Runnya Wilson, WR, Miss. St / Jayron Kearse, S, Clemson / Spencer Drango, OT, Baylor
Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia / Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky / John Theus, OT, Georgia / Roberto Aguayo, K, Florida State
James Bradberry, CB (S), Samford / Avery Young, OG, Auburn / Tyler Matakevich, ILB, Temple / Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss / DJ Reader, DT, Clemson / Max Tuerk, C, USC / Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford
Antwione Williams, OLB, Georgia Southern / Terrance Smith, OLB, Florida State / Jake Coker, QB, Alabama / Nile Lawrence-Stample, DT, Florida State

[ParanoidAndroid]

My best go on the composite for 1-4 was Leonard Floyd, Vernon Butler, Le'Raven Clark, Tyler Higbee, and Scooby Wright.

[Mace]

I'm still having major issues with the combined board. It's not that I can't find anyone to take, but keep finding too many people to take. I click the OK for a pick and notice someone else still available, adjust my philosophy, try again, half the people are gone but there's a different trove. Click OK, notice someone else still available....

[YardRat]

My 'issue' is I'm starting to zero in on guys in certain rounds, or passing on others because I know somebody else from the same position I'd like is probably going to be available the next time up. I've passed on Peake a couple of times, for example, because I know Lawler will be there later.

[Mace]

My 'issue' is I'm starting to zero in on guys in certain rounds, or passing on others because I know somebody else from the same position I'd like is probably going to be available the next time up. I've passed on Peake a couple of times, for example, because I know Lawler will be there later.

You'd mostly call that BPA on your board, but the composite is freaky and random. I've passed on some guys knowing they will be there later after multiple drafts, to run into some where they aren't. Heh, I suppose that's what happens to real GM's and is why we aren't them. I can scrap a draft as a dork up and move on to the next try, they can't.

Ok, that's it, dork up or not this next draft is the one I post.

[Mace]

Can't bring myself to do it.

[YardRat]

lol...

[Mace]

lol...

Trying to psyche myself up for it. Keep telling myself this is THE time, DO IT. Hands are shaking too much to hit the link, sweat's pouring out of me in buckets, can't see, jaw is clenched so tight my toes are cramping.

[YardRat]

Trying to psyche myself up for it. Keep telling myself this is THE time, DO IT. Hands are shaking too much to hit the link, sweat's pouring out of me in buckets, can't see, jaw is clenched so tight my toes are cramping.

Sounds more to me like feldspar trying to get laid.

[Mace]

3/28 - Combined board.

Ok, I manned up. Got past my fixation on getting Jarran Reed, Su'a Cravens, Jihad Ward, Vadal Alexander and Blake Martinez in one draft. I'm still weeping.


19: R1P19 DE NOAH SPENCE EASTERN KENTUCKY




49: R2P18 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS




80: R3P17 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH




118: R4P19 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE




140: R4P41 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE




157: R5P17 OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT ARIZONA




193: R6P17 OT ALEX LEWIS NEBRASKA




219: R6P43 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA


Ryan gets glorious moving parts in Spence, Nkemdiche, Killebrew and Wright, Roman gets some cornfed beef potential in Lewis, Lee gets a maybe tank of a QB to play with in Cardale (and I get to keep saying "Cardale" like "Dinsdale"), Lol, er Lal gets an Adams amazingly still there in the 6th, and Hollywood Higgins, who is basically a skinnier Stevie Johnson who runs better routes.

That's it for me, I'm still shaking and can hear Yardrat snickering from the boonies and combing his luxurious locks neurotically.

[YardRat]

I'm really disappointed in the lack of Williams' in this draft.

[Mace]

I tend to zero in myself, and have developed names I tend to home in on, depending on the round.

DE - Emmanuel Ogbah, Jihad Ward, Shilique Calhoun, Bronson Kaufusi, James Cowser (see him as hybrid DE/OLB), Shawn Oakman
DT - Jarran Reed (see him as hybrid NT/DT/DE), Vernon Butler, Niles Lawrence-Stample, DJ Reader
OLB - Leonard Floyd, Su'a Cravens (see him as hybrid OLB/SS), Joshua Perry, Kyler Fackrell, Yannick Ngakoue, Curt Maggit (see him as hybrid ILB/OLB)
SS - Miles Killebrew, Jayron Kearse
ILB - Reggie Ragland, Scooby Wright, Blake Martinez

OT - Jack Conklin, Joe Haeg, John Theus, Alex Lewis, Willie Beavers
OG - Vadal Alexander, Landon Turner, Spencer Drango, Joe Dahl, Jordan Walsh (see him as a G/C depth)
QB - Cardale Jones, I'm on the fence about Kevin Hogan after our last Stanford QB
TE - Glenn Gronkowski (see him as hybrid TE/FB/H-Back, if he's there late), Jerell Adams (if he's there late)
WR - Rashard Higgins, Kenny Lawler, Charone Peak, De'Runnya Wilson

[YardRat]

I want to go big early, but if Treadwell drops to us (which I really don't think he will) I can't pass him up.


19: R1P19
WR LAQUON TREADWELL
OLE MISS



49: R2P18
DT JIHAD WARD
ILLINOIS



80: R3P17
G LANDON TURNER
NORTH CAROLINA



117: R4P19
S JAYRON KEARSE
CLEMSON



139: R4P41
DE SHAWN OAKMAN
BAYLOR



156: R5P17
OLB TERRANCE SMITH
FSU



192: R6P17
ILB TYLER MATAKEVICH
TEMPLE



218: R6P43
OT FAHN COOPER
OLE MISS

[Mace]

I want to go big early, but if Treadwell drops to us (which I really don't think he will) I can't pass him up.


I'm not disagreeing with Treadwell's value or skill level, but when he's available I always wonder :
- Do we throw enough balls for Watkins & Treadwell in a rushing offense to justify spending a 1st in this draft on what will essentially be tits on a bull ?
- Is Taylor enough of a passer in a rushing offense to maximize 2 number 1 WR picks who are going to get cranky about how many passes they see ?
- Is there someone there we would miss more if we didn't get him ?

I think if we had a passing offense and a gunslinger QB, he's make perfect sense, but it would greatly distress me to see him running around a lot for nothing while opponents keep tearing us up for 8 yard runs and slicing us with 15 yard passes to TE's while our pick is running around alot on running plays or routes where Taylor can't find him in the middle of the field.

That's no slam on Treadwell.

[cookie G]

I haven't remembered a year when I've cared less about a draft. Maybe I need to find Admarc and Merk on Twitter or something.

19: R1P19
OT JACK CONKLIN
MICHIGAN ST

Starter, day 1 He gets into it with Incognito during training camp and it ends up a draw. Unfortunately, they fall in love and get married in a ceremony officiated by Jonathan Martin. Good for them, bad for us.


49: R2P18
OLB JORDAN JENKINS
GEORGIA

A good but not great senior season. Played with a groin injury all year. Block his internet porn, he'll be fine.

80: R3P17
OT LE'RAVEN CLARK
TEXAS TECH

3 time Big 12 All Star. At the combine, was asked to get into a 3 point stance and had a deer in the headlights look. Kept looking at the other OL to see what they were doing.

Red Raiders are like that. He'll learn.


117: R4P19
DT NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE
FLORIDA STATE

Short, fat, quality NT. Shoulders are big enough to keep his hyphenated name on one line. Stample is a name that just fits a DT.


139: R4P41
QB KEVIN HOGAN
STANFORD

Better than Elway and Luck combined. Sold more records in Spain than either Elvis or the Beatles.
The first person that starts a Hogan's Heroes cheering section gets banished to the Russian Front.

156: R5P17
TE TYLER HIGBEE
WESTERN KENTUCKY

He just keeps showing up in rounds 5-6. A guy I went to school with is a former Hill topper, he'll be happy.

192: R6P17
WR GERONIMO ALLISON
ILLINOIS

I liked the name. That might be bad, but I did.

218: R6P43
ILB ANTONIO LONGINO
ARIZONA STATE

See above...just kind of rolls off the tongue.

[cookie G]

1: R1P19
TE BRYCE WILLIAMS
EAST CAROLINA

2: R2P18
RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS
ARKANSAS

3: R3P17
S R.J. WILLIAMSON
MICHIGAN ST


4: R4P19
WR JORDAN WILLIAMS
BALL STATE

5: R4P41
QB MARQUISE WILLIAMS
UNC

6: R5P17
RB JAMAAL WILLIAMS
BYU

7: R6P17
TP SERENA WILLIAMS
NONE

[YardRat]

If Wrecks drafted Serena he'd have her serving underhand and aiming all returns to the center of the court by the middle of training camp.

[Mace]

I haven't remembered a year when I've cared less about a draft. Maybe I need to find Admarc and Merk on Twitter or something.

His big board baffles me, but Merk at least is still cooking.

http://profootballwarroom.com/

[Ginger Vitis]

Walter football



1: R1P19


ILB REGGIE RAGLAND

ALABAMA


2: R2P18


DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE

OLE MISS


3: R3P17


S VONN BELL

OHIO STATE


4: R4P19


LB JAYLON SMITH

NOTRE DAME

[YardRat]

I used the new KC board for the first time, some of the rankings seem a little wonky to me. Olinemen went early in rounds, and in streaks. A few times I was looking at a slew of WR's and CB's and had to scroll. Was really able to beef up the front 7 though with Ragland (ILB), Butler (NT), and Ward (DT/DE). Lawler was BPA in the third, and couldn't resist snagging Peake also in the fourth. Got a safety prospect in Bradberry, and oline with Glasgow and Young on Day 3.


19: R1P19
ILB REGGIE RAGLAND
ALABAMA



49: R2P18
DT VERNON BUTLER
LOUISIANA TECH.



80: R3P17
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



117: R4P19
WR CHARONE PEAKE
CLEMSON



139: R4P41
DT JIHAD WARD
ILLINOIS



156: R5P17
C GRAHAM GLASGOW
MICHIGAN



192: R6P17
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



218: R6P43
OT AVERY YOUNG
AUBURN

[YardRat]

I dunno about Crabbs' rankings...both ILB Ragland and S Bell were available in the fourth.


19: R1P19
OT JACK CONKLIN
MICHIGAN STATE



49: R2P18
DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON
ALABAMA



80: R3P17
CB ELI APPLE
OHIO STATE



117: R4P19
ILB REGGIE RAGLAND
ALABAMA



139: R4P41
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



156: R5P17
WR KENNY LAWLER
CALIFORNIA



192: R6P17
DE CARL NASSIB
PENNSYLVANIA STATE



218: R6P43
S JAYRON KEARSE
CLEMSON

[Mace]

Taking safety off my list. I think recent pickup White is going to be the depth if SS Aaron goes down. Ryan system exp, big man. I'm thinking Ryans are with safeties like Gailey is with QB's, want vets.

Of course, since then my simulator drafts using the redoubtable CBS big board have rocketed into the universe of improbable. Last two tries I got Shaq Lawson in R1, and Leonard Floyd in R2, and then Jared Goff in R1, Paxton Lynch in R2, Cardale Jones in R4, and Kevin Hogan in R5, figuring the rest of the league can come begging me for QB's.

[YardRat]

I ran a couple drafting as the Broncos, just to see what the sim would do drafting as the Bills...

Fanspeak-

1-OT Jack Conklin
2-WR Josh Doctson
3-OLB Scooby Wright
4a-DE James Cowser
4b-CB Tavon Young
5-CB Keivarae Russell
6a-DT Nile Lawrence-Stample
6b-ILB-Casanova McKinzy

Composite Big Board-
1-OT Taylor Decker
2-DE Kamalei Correa
3-ILB Kentrell Brothers
4a-DT Sheldon Day
4b-WR Caleb Jones
5-CB Maurice Canady
6a-P Drew Kaser
6b-CB Michael Jordan

Why in the hell the sim would take a punter, especially considering the site doesn't have the position listed as a need, I have no idea.

[Mace]

I ran a couple drafting as the Broncos, just to see what the sim would do drafting as the Bills...

Fanspeak-

1-OT Jack Conklin
2-WR Josh Doctson
3-OLB Scooby Wright
4a-DE James Cowser
4b-CB Tavon Young
5-CB Keivarae Russell
6a-DT Nile Lawrence-Stample
6b-ILB-Casanova McKinzy

Composite Big Board-
1-OT Taylor Decker
2-DE Kamalei Correa
3-ILB Kentrell Brothers
4a-DT Sheldon Day
4b-WR Caleb Jones
5-CB Maurice Canady
6a-P Drew Kaser
6b-CB Michael Jordan

Why in the hell the sim would take a punter, especially considering the site doesn't have the position listed as a need, I have no idea.

Great idea. I can probably have awesome drafts as the Browns. Don't even care about the team anymore, I'm addicted to the process.

Hm, anyway, the obvious reason for the punter is for much needed punter depth. We only have one of them you know.

[Mace]

Attempting to draft as the Browns completely screwed up my karma. I have ill humors, disharmonious vibes, and disturbed vapors. Haven't been able to come up with a draft that makes me happy using any board since.

[YardRat]

Attempting to draft as the Browns completely screwed up my karma. I have ill humors, disharmonious vibes, and disturbed vapors. Haven't been able to come up with a draft that makes me happy using any board since.

That's why I used the Broncos and not the Browns. Silly.

[YardRat]

This mock draft using CBS Sports is dedicated to cookie...


19: R1P19
OT TAYLOR DECKER
OHIO STATE



49: R2P18
G VADAL ALEXANDER
LSU



80: R3P17
G JOSHUA GARNETT
STANFORD



117: R4P19
G SPENCER DRANGO
BAYLOR



139: R4P41
OT WILLIE BEAVERS
WESTERN MICHIGAN



156: R5P17
C EVAN BOEHM
MISSOURI



192: R6P17
G JOE DAHL
WASHINGTON STATE



218: R6P43
OT HALAPOULIVAATI VAITAI
TCU

[Mace]

That's why I used the Broncos and not the Browns. Silly.

Would have been good if you'd have pointed that out earlier before I harshed my kismet.

[Mace]

I need to get a grip on myself, I'm drafting 8 times a day.

[YardRat]

Only 8? Ummmm.....

[YardRat]

OK, here's my 'Let's pretend Wrecks was never hired' mock.

A few assumptions...

An offensive-minded head coach was hired, bringing along a competent OC and offensive staff. Schwartz and the defensive coaches were retained. Last season's cluster**** of free agency (Clay, Harvin, Felton...maybe even Taylor) never happened. Incognito, re-signing Hughes, maybe even the Shady trade still did. Some of the money wasted on offense was given to Spikes and he stayed. The team is still running a Wide 9 on defense, Mario re-structured this off season and stayed. Last year's draft stays the same. The defense is still mostly dominant, but Searcy still walked.

Team needs = Oline, TE, QB, WR, safety and defensive depth/eventual replacements.


19: R1P19
OT JACK CONKLIN
MICHIGAN STATE



49: R2P18
TE HUNTER HENRY
ARKANSAS



80: R3P17
DT JAVON HARGRAVE
SOUTH CAROLINA STATE



117: R4P19
QB DAK PRESCOTT
MISSISSIPPI STATE



139: R4P41
C MAX TUERK
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA



156: R5P17
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD



192: R6P17
WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON
MISSISSIPPI STATE



218: R6P43
OLB ANTWIONE WILLIAMS
GEORGIA SOUTHERN



If Conklin is there (one of the top three OT's) you take him.
Henry may be the top TE in the draft, good replacement for Chandler.
Hargrave is the eventual replacement for KW.
Prescott, with or without Taylor, is a good risk/reward gamble in the fourth (Goff, Wentz and Cook were gone in the first 15 picks, no thanks on Lynch)
Tuerck--b/u guard center, Woods eventual replacement.
Bradberry switches to safety.
Wilson adds a WR with size for depth.
Williams depth/special teams...eventual replacement for Brown on the outside when he moves inside to replace Spikes.

[Mace]

Ok, using your scenario :


19: R1P19 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE : Enough said.




49: R2P18 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME : D is doing fine, I can afford to waste a season healing a potential superstar.




80: R3P17 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE : Stevie Johnson with route discipline works for me.




117: R4P19 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE : Still think he's the best potential QB in this draft, howitzer arm, big as a tank, mobile, and freed from Ohio State's bootleg.




139: R4P41 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG : Smart, has time to learn, can spell Mario and develop. I think he's going to like the wide-9.




156: R5P17 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE : Smart, worker bee, rotational, eventually replaces Kyle.




192: R6P17 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE : Schwartz uses safeties like centerfielders. Single high safety is just his cup of tea.




218: R6P43 G JORDAN WALSH IOWA : Future Urbik, from Iowa, guard/center.

Skimped on ILB & TE. At TE, Nick O'Leary is getting plenty of snaps and at LB, I'll shore it up with FA's or UDFA's until next season when I can see what Jaylon can do.

[DraftBoy]

I went with the Buddy Nix Dedication Draft per Illumi suggestion, nothing but ACC/SEC picks.

19. ILB REGGIE RAGLAND, ALABAMA
49. G VADAL ALEXANDER, LSU
80. K ROBERTO AGUAYO, FLORIDA STATE
117. QB DAK PRESCOTT, MISSISSIPPI STATE
139. OLB JORDAN JENKINS, GEORGIA
156. WR CHARONE PEAKE, CLEMSON
199. DT D.J. READER, CLEMSON
218. S KEANU NEAL, FLORIDA

Don't think it turned out too bad.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I went with the Buddy Nix Dedication Draft per Illumi suggestion, nothing but ACC/SEC picks.

19. ILB REGGIE RAGLAND, ALABAMA
49. G VADAL ALEXANDER, LSU
80. K ROBERTO AGUAYO, FLORIDA STATE
117. QB DAK PRESCOTT, MISSISSIPPI STATE
139. OLB JORDAN JENKINS, GEORGIA
156. WR CHARONE PEAKE, CLEMSON
199. DT D.J. READER, CLEMSON
218. S KEANU NEAL, FLORIDA

Don't think it turned out too bad.

I'm still not a fan of taking a kicker so high, but otherwise I would walk away feeling good after that one.

[DraftBoy]

I'm still not a fan of taking a kicker so high, but otherwise I would walk away feeling good after that one.

Me either but with the board falling the way it did then I'll deal.

[YardRat]

Another 'sim' mock, with me drafting as the Steelers, using NFL...

1-LB Reggie Ragland
2-DE Carl Nassib
3-OLB Kentrall Brothers
4a-DT Maliek Collins
4b-WR Leonte Carroo
5-TE Thomas Duarte
6a-CB Jonathon Jones
6b-OT Brandon Shell

Left players like DJ Reader, Spencer Drango, Antwione Williams, and John Theus on the board.

[Mace]

I can't wait to draft as Mularkey's Titans.

[YardRat]

A 'Reach' draft of players that are projected (by NFL,com) to go at least a full round later than actually picked below...


19: R1P19
S VONN BELL
OHIO STATE



49: R2P18
OT JERALD HAWKINS
LSU



80: R3P17
OLB JORDAN JENKINS
GEORGIA



117: R4P19
QB DAK PRESCOTT
MISSISSIPPI STATE



139: R4P41
DT NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE
FLORIDA STATE



156: R5P17
CB JUSTON BURRIS
NC STATE



192: R6P17
WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON
MISSISSIPPI STATE



218: R6P43
DE JOSH DAWSON
GEORGIA



Bell-An early gift for Ed Reed who was brought in for a reason, right?
Hawkins-Need an OT to challenge Henderson.
Jenkins-An OLB to push and eventually replace Lawson.
Prescott--They may actually have to pull the trigger earlier if they want this kid.
Lawrence-Stample-KW's 'breather' guy and eventual replacement.
Burris-Wouldn't be a Bills draft without a corner.
Wilson-Just don't trade up over a team that plans on taking a punter again. Please?
Dawson-Solid, unspectacular. Size and experience (played LBer before switching to DE in '15) = good depth/situational rotation.

[Mace]

I'm not so sure about nfl.com being grounded in reality after this, but why look a gift horse in the mouth, using their big board.

19: R1P19 QB JARED GOFF CALIFORNIA : Well, he was sitting there all alone looking so sad.
49: R2P18 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA : Karlos and his concussions to NY Giants, McCoy back to Philadelphia.
80: R3P17 DE JIHAD WARD ILLINOIS : I get the end I wanted.
117: R4P19 G VADAL ALEXANDER LSU : Yeah sure, one of the best guards is there in the 4th, he's mine now.
139: R4P41 DE YANNICK NGAKOUE MARYLAND : OLB, not DE. My OLB.
156: R5P17 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA ST. : Ok, Joe Haeg makes it to round 5 ? He's not making it to round 6. My Joe Haeg.
192: R6P17 OLB TYLER MATAKEVICH TEMPLE : ILB, not OLB, my ILB in round 6 ? Ok.
218: R6P43 DT NILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE FLORIDA ST : I like this guy. There's the NT.

[YardRat]

Straight-up, BPA according to Walter Football (because they were the most recently updated). No questions asked, the guy at the top of the list at my pick, was the pick. One exception, the very last choice, the top two were WR (already had two) and CB, and Kearse was third.


19: R1P19
CB VERNON HARGREAVES
FLORIDA



49: R2P18
WR MICHAEL THOMAS
OHIO STATE



80: R3P17
C NICK MARTIN
NOTRE DAME



117: R4P19
DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON
OHIO STATE



139: R4P41
DT JIHAD WARD
ILLINOIS



156: R5P17
ILB KENTRELL BROTHERS
MISSOURI



192: R6P17
WR BRALON ADDISON
OREGON



218: R6P43
S JAYRON KEARSE
CLEMSON

[Mace]

I tried straight up BPA a bunch of times. Ended up with mostly WR's and CB's, like 3 of each.

[YardRat]

I tried straight up BPA a bunch of times. Ended up with mostly WR's and CB's, like 3 of each.

I was surprised, in all honesty, how well it went (except for late when WR's and CB's populated the top of the list). I waited as long as I could without 'cheating' a little bit (the very last pick), and still ended up with a WR, two DTs, an olineman, and a LBer.

[Mace]

I was surprised, in all honesty, how well it went (except for late when WR's and CB's populated the top of the list). I waited as long as I could without 'cheating' a little bit (the very last pick), and still ended up with a WR, two DTs, an olineman, and a LBer.

I'm finding myself hoping they trade down a bit, and gain another pick or two. This really is a deep draft where we need it to be, imho.

[Mace]

This will be one of my last sim drafts, I'm pretty locked into my reasoning and players by now. The general tone will be skilled, flexible raw players to be taught or built. I think that's where they are going and it's what I want for what they want.

19: R1P19 OLB Leonard Floyd Georgia : He's a younger, better Manny Lawson who can learn with Manny Lawson. In my perfect world they'd get a pure OLB like Joshua Perry, and a pure DE like Emmanuel Ogbah or Jihad Ward, but I'm thinking they have their 2nd necessary 3 down LB in Zach Brown and they want another Hughes in the form of Lawson, and that's Floyd if he's there.

49: R2P18 CB Xavien Howard Baylor : Best suited to be a press corner and built like a safety. I think Gilmore is going to get hurt, if he doesn't they can wave goodbye to him after this kid has a year under Ryan.

80: R3P17 G Vadal Alexander LSU : A run game masher to step in if Miller gets hurt again or train to replace Incognito down the road.

117: R4P19 WR Kenny Lawler California : Needs some weight for the pro game, excellent ball skills, give him some time in the weight room, groom him behind 2017 FA Woods, and enjoy the plays the man will make.

139: R4P41 DT D.J. Reader Clemson : A big, versatile DT who can play multiple positions and needs some technique. Who better to learn from than Kyle and Dareus ? He can move.

156: R5P17 OT Willie Beavers Western Michigan : Has the tools, needs refinement. Is Kromer all that ? If he is, this kid could end the Henderson/Koundjio sweepstakes and put them back to depth where they belong.

192: R6P17 ILB Blake Martinez Stanford : A solid lb, an effort guy, a guy who will surprise you, and someone ready to roll 3 downs a pop if the Browns aren't all that and maybe even if they are.

218: R6P43 S Jayron Kearse Clemson : Sitting there in the 6th, with his size and possibility, Ryan's love of safeties and formation roles, if Aaron Williams gets hurt again, he'll lose his job. Probably will anyway in a year if this kid can learn.

-For the love of Cookie, I didn't think Conklin is there at 19 or I'd grab him surely, I ruled out Jarran Reed as a better 4-3 DT prospect, ruled out Ragland because of the Zach Brown signing, ruled out Darron Lee because he's not a Lawson type so perfectly as Floyd is.
-I just can't throw a pick at a QB with the choices available at each slot.
-I just can't go too early or too late on a WR or CB because the quality for WR is either wasted on a rushing offense, or the quality plunges on cb's
-I'm thinking they want trainable guys, putting priority on athletes over polish because this staff is not going anywhere

I'm thinking this is one of those rare drafts that can give us 8 future starters, "can" not "will" and these guys are close to my best bets on potential who can also make immediate effect if needed, obviously with growing pains.

[Mace]

It's a shame they don't have a final sim draft big board with the players ranked by draft order, for retrospect. Then again, maybe it's not a shame, I'd be upsetting myself daily and beating dead horses for a year.