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I was too small, so thankfully I don't really remember...
The Cowgirls' games where the ones when I started following Buffalo and football altogether.
"Expect rejection, but expect more to overcome it."
***Marv Levy.***
"Coach Levy is one of the most inspirational people that I have ever known."
***Thurman Thomas.***
"You're not going to find a more classier, down-to-Earth person away from the field than Marv Levy. He's a guy who's pretty much made me what I am today as far as a professional player and a person."
***Jim Kelly***
IIRC, Thomas was out in the open and should have juked for a few more yards. Or do I not correctly recall?
Not on the final run before the spike and kick... Not much more Thurman could have done... Giants were on all sides of him.
OT: I was 12, in my mother's living room. So yeah, I remember it. Upset that he missed, but wasn't as into football back then, so it wasn't as big of a blow to me as it would be if it happened today.
One thing I always think about when watching that kick... Why was the ball spotted on the right hash? I would think that Kelly's spike would have centered the spot, but apparently not. If that ball is snapped from the left hash, it's good... Possibly even good if centered.
One thing I always think about when watching that kick... Why was the ball spotted on the right hash? I would think that Kelly's spike would have centered the spot, but apparently not. If that ball is snapped from the left hash, it's good... Possibly even good if centered.
I don't remember what happened as I was too young, but if the ball was spotted on the right hash before Kelly spiked it, that's where it would be spotted for the next play. An incomplete pass doesn't change which hash the ball is on, only running plays and completed passes/sacks do that.
Bill Parcells paid the Navy chopper pilot to come in closer during the kick. Where do you think Belichick got his bag of tricks?
Kidding aside, Reich didn't turn the laces forward. There was also an explanation on 30 for 30. Norwood was hooking the ball in practice, but when he had to make the boot from that far away, he gave it everything he had so it didn't draw back in.
I also think they could have run another play with 8 seconds.
I don't remember what happened as I was too young, but if the ball was spotted on the right hash before Kelly spiked it, that's where it would be spotted for the next play. An incomplete pass doesn't change which hash the ball is on, only running plays and completed passes/sacks do that.
Yeah, Thurman's run prior to the spike was to the right.
And it's entirely possible that Norwood wanted to kick from the hash - some kickers prefer to do that
Thought of that as well... But, I'm guessing Joe is correct. For whatever reason, I was under the impression that a QB spike would, in effect, "center" the spot for the next play.
Yeah, Thurman's run prior to the spike was to the right.
Thought of that as well... But, I'm guessing Joe is correct. For whatever reason, I was under the impression that a QB spike would, in effect, "center" the spot for the next play.
-Bill
No. The ball is placed in the same position as when he spiked it which was on the hashmark. If you want to center it, you have to run a play.
Nowadays, it depends on who the team is and who the NFL wants to hoist the trophy.
New England would get the ball placed in the middle of the field in the same situation.
1) On the Thurman run before the spike and kick... if Al Edwards holds his block a bit longer the eventual tackler would not have caught Thurman and Thurman very likely gets another 7 to 10 yards..
2) Kenneth Davis theory is the chopper above the stadium was close enough that the wind casue the ball to hook more than it should have
3) Everybody remembers the "Mark Ingram 3rd and 14" but earlier in the d rive when the Giants were on there 15 or 20 yard line on 3rd and 8 Dave Meggett caught a pass 5 yards short of the 1st down and broke 2 tackles to get the 1st down
4) Andre Reed dropped 2 catchable balls on 2 consecutive drives in the 2nd quarter when the Bills were ahead 12-3 that killed momentum
5) On the 61 yard pass to James Lofton I don't think Jim made a good throw .. If he leads James a a bit more Lofton scores a TD instead of settling for the FG.. On a drive in the 2nd quarter when the Bills were ahead 12-3 on a 2nd and 10 Jim missed a wide open Keith Mckellar down the seam that would have given the Bills a 1st down at there 45.. Jim was off in that game
If Trent Dilfer was the worst QB to win a Super Bowl in the last 25 years.. Then Jeff Hostetler is the 2nd worse although Brad Johnson may be a close 2nd
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